Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread V

Tox56 · 20-09-2014 10:03pm

LorMal wrote: »

What's all this 'Dippy' ****e? Can you not just use the chaps name? Trying to come across as their mate? They don't know you pal and they couldnt give a ****.
Can we please use the players names so those of us who are not in the ' inner circle' can keep up?
Thanks

Seriously? It's a nickname, referring to a player by nickname is not unique to me, Leinster or even this sport. To be honest I didn't even realised I used it, and I'm not even going to pretend to know where 'Dippy' comes from

Hagz · 20-09-2014 10:11pm

If Ice-man is fit I'd start him next week and shift mad-dog to 10. How long until Sideshow Bob is back fit?
There's no real option behind Nugget so I guess I'd keep the pack the same. Unless SOB is fit, in which case I'd bring him in for DOMINIC RYAN.

Buer · 20-09-2014 10:13pm

LorMal wrote: »

What's all this 'Dippy' ****e? Can you not just use the chaps name? Trying to come across as their mate? They don't know you pal and they couldnt give a ****.
Can we please use the players names so those of us who are not in the ' inner circle' can keep up?
Thanks

Indeed. I'm sure Birch, Nugget, Flash, Church and Shaggy all feel the same.

SaveOurLyric · 20-09-2014 10:24pm

Church need a new model girfriend alright.

I think the missing name from the playmaker discussion is Maddog. He could really be made into something by a good coach - fingers crossed for those Ireland sessions. It would be great to have Pivot back for that aspect though, and agree that Freddie contributes little in that regard.

SaveOurLyric · 20-09-2014 10:25pm

Hagz wrote: »

I'd bring him in for DOMINIC RYAN.

Who ?

Swan Curry · 21-09-2014 1:21am

Hagz wrote: »

If Ice-man is fit I'd start him next week and shift mad-dog to 10. How long until Sideshow Bob is back fit?
There's no real option behind Nugget so I guess I'd keep the pack the same. Unless SOB is fit, in which case I'd bring him in for DOMINIC RYAN.

What's all this 'DOMINIC RYAN' ****e? Can you not just use the chaps name? Trying to come across as their mate? They don't know you pal and they couldnt give a ****.
Can we please use the players names so those of us who are not in the ' inner circle' can keep up?
Thanks

.ak · 21-09-2014 2:17am

LorMal wrote: »

What's all this 'Dippy' ****e? Can you not just use the chaps name? Trying to come across as their mate? They don't know you pal and they couldnt give a ****.
Can we please use the players names so those of us who are not in the ' inner circle' can keep up?
Thanks

Don't be a dick.

Everyone else please don't respond to posts like this, just report them, thanks.

Morf · 21-09-2014 4:16am

Hagz wrote: »

If Ice-man is fit I'd start him next week and shift mad-dog to 10. How long until Sideshow Bob is back fit?
There's no real option behind Nugget so I guess I'd keep the pack the same. Unless SOB is fit, in which case I'd bring him in for DOMINIC RYAN.

Ice-man? A nickname you give yourself hardly counts. Looking forward to seeing Sluggy back at 2nd 5/8.

former legend · 22-09-2014 9:07am

I watched this again on the way to work this morning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbbhPHoMP8

Cian Healy came on 5 minutes into the second half. Go to 3:35 in the clip and watch out for him; he is absolutely knackered, hands on his knees when he should be clearing out rucks.

After his showing against Glasgow and starting the next two games on the bench, something seems to be up with his fitness and that is very bad news.

iamjenko · 22-09-2014 9:36am

former legend wrote: »

I watched this again on the way to work this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbbhPHoMP8

Cian Healy came on 5 minutes into the second half. Go to 3:35 in the clip and watch out for him; he is absolutely knackered, hands on his knees when he should be clearing out rucks.

After his showing against Glasgow and starting the next two games on the bench, something seems to be up with his fitness and that is very bad news.

How you could watch that again, on a Monday morning en route to work is beyond me!!

Did Healy get a full pre-season in or was most of the summer spent rehabbing?

aimee1 · 22-09-2014 9:52am

former legend wrote: »

I watched this again on the way to work this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdbbhPHoMP8

Cian Healy came on 5 minutes into the second half. Go to 3:35 in the clip and watch out for him; he is absolutely knackered, hands on his knees when he should be clearing out rucks.

After his showing against Glasgow and starting the next two games on the bench, something seems to be up with his fitness and that is very bad news.

he might possibly, in a contact sport, have taken a knock, which winded him for example, hopefully its something like that anyway

.ak · 22-09-2014 9:58am

He didn't look as sluggish as compared to the Glasgow game, but there's a very real possibility he spent the summer shredding and cycling to get his BF down and muscle mass up. He looks the fittest (in body form terms) I've ever seen him. The aerobic stuff will come after a few games, blow the cob webs out. I'd imagine he'll start against Cardiff and might be left on the pitch until he has absolutely nothing left in the tank.

Teferi · 22-09-2014 10:04am

He's down to 13% BF which is outrageous for a loosehead prop.

.ak · 22-09-2014 10:09am

I'm a winger and I'm at 14%. That's depressing.

vienne86 · 22-09-2014 10:13am

.ak wrote: »

He didn't look as sluggish as compared to the Glasgow game, but there's a very real possibility he spent the summer shredding and cycling to get his BF down and muscle mass up. He looks the fittest (in body form terms) I've ever seen him. The aerobic stuff will come after a few games, blow the cob webs out. I'd imagine he'll start against Cardiff and might be left on the pitch until he has absolutely nothing left in the tank.

I think so too. We will certainly need him in good order for the Munster match.

former legend · 22-09-2014 10:18am

aimee1 wrote: »

he might possibly, in a contact sport, have taken a knock, which winded him for example, hopefully its something like that anyway

Yeah, he might have taken a knock, just taken together with the fact that he was benched two weeks in a row after a very sluggish start is slightly worrying.

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 10:20am

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/obrien-fears-grow-as-schmidt-plots-ahead-30604544.html

Hate these rumours
"The province have been playing down the nature of the ankle injury he suffered against Glasgow, but fears are growing that the problem is more serious than they are letting on and could keep the Tullow native out for a considerable period of time. - See more at: http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/obrien-fears-grow-as-schmidt-plots-ahead-30604544.html#sthash.5hkD5z06.dpuf
"

Possibility of SOB long term injury

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/international-rugby/obrien-fears-grow-as-schmidt-plots-ahead-30604544.html

.ak · 22-09-2014 10:29am

Hmmm. Well, we won't be getting any sort of info on that from the branch anyway. Hopefully just conjecture.

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 10:58am

Anyone watch our two cup rivals play at the weekend

http://www.premiershiprugby.com/news/33176.php

Who stood out?

Theta · 22-09-2014 10:59am

aimee1 wrote: »

he might possibly, in a contact sport, have taken a knock, which winded him for example, hopefully its something like that anyway

Looks to me like he took a knock too, he drops to his knees at the end of the play. Generally you dont do this while catching your breath.

.ak · 22-09-2014 1:41pm

So there's talk of KD being 'involved' this weekend. That'd be interesting. I'd like to see a team with Munster in mind.

1. Healy
2. Byrne
3. Furlong
4. Toner
5. Denton
6. Rhys
7. Ryan
8. Conan
9. McGrath
10. Gopperth
11. Fanning
12. Madigan
13. Darce
14. McFadden
15. Kearney

16. Cronin
17. McGrath
18. Ross
19. Douglas
20. Heaslip
21. Reddan
22. Crosbie
23. McGrath

former legend · 22-09-2014 1:47pm

Isn't Jack McGrath injured? No harm to give him a rest anyway, bring in Bent or McCarthy for a run. Can't see Luke McGrath starting either.

We have so few options in the back line at the moment, it's depressing. Still, I wouldn't mind seeing Madigan go at 10, D'Arcy at 12 and maybe McFadden at 13, bring Mick McGrath in for a start.

.ak · 22-09-2014 1:56pm

Yeah, was thinking of rejigging the backline but I think the Munster game is important and I can see the Connacht loss as being a bit of a dent in terms of experimenting in the Cardiff game. I reckon if we can get a good lead built up we'll see wholesale changes across the field.

Didn't realize McGrath (Jack) was injured.

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 2:01pm

Usually as strong as possible the week before Munster, similar team as that s all available. Someone needs to do the Zane attack work. McFadden was not fit.

Its a shame that Macken may miss out as he has made a fair few breaks recently but they probably want to trial the

13 Darcy
12 Madigan

Hopefully we get the win, we need to go on a little run again and need a few players back fit. Ball carriers playing to their potential and people breaking the line at speed.

God forbid we dont going into the Munster game MOC would be under enormous pressure from the fans. A poor showing in front of 45k+ could hit coffers if we plan to fill a 25k seater in the future with new fans.

leftleg · 22-09-2014 2:06pm

Whats the craic with Marty Moore?

former legend · 22-09-2014 2:06pm

.ak wrote: »

Yeah, was thinking of rejigging the backline but I think the Munster game is important and I can see the Connacht loss as being a bit of a dent in terms of experimenting in the Cardiff game. I reckon if we can get a good lead built up we'll see wholesale changes across the field.

Didn't realize McGrath (Jack) was injured.

Indo says there is "some concern" over Jack.

Re: the backline, yeah it would be good to get things back on track but Gopperth, Madigan and Fanning have played almost every minute of the campaign so far, they need some sort of a break before Munster. Reddan needs to start, IMO, assuming he's not injured he needs to sharpen up again. It would be great if Reid was fit because we're really down to the bare bones.

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 2:07pm

leftleg wrote: »

Whats the craic with Marty Moore?

He has been training, no one seems to know.

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 2:16pm

Darcy retweet
Fan pic

molloyjh · 22-09-2014 2:17pm

We need a result and performance this week after Friday badly. The question is do we try to change things up again a little or not. Injuries are going to really prevent that from happening, as will the player welfare. It's going to be a really tough one this week I think, purely because of who we will have available and who we won't. We're away to Zebre and home to Edinburgh on either side of the ERCC so those games will have to be used to rest guys.

What's the story with Moore and D Kearney?

For me:

1. Healy
2. Byrne
3. Furlong
4. McCarthy
5. Denton
6. Ruddock
7. Ryan
8. Conan

9. Reddan
10. Gopperth
11. M McGrath
12. Madigan
13. Darce
14. Fanning
15. R Kearney

16. Dundon
17. McCarthy
18. Bent
19. Douglas
20. Locky
21. L McGrath
22. Macken
23. Crosbie

This assumes SOB is injured. Ferg wasn't fully fit on Friday and shouldn't have been playing. I'm assuming he too won't be available due to player welfare. That leaves is really light in the backs. Rob has to play because we are stuck for full-backs. Between the squad issues and the disruption due to the rotation this weekend could be a really tough one.

former legend · 22-09-2014 2:37pm

molloyjh wrote: »

That leaves is really light in the backs

Maybe when Ben Te'o is coming over he could entice one of his Rabbitohs team-mates to come with him on a short-term deal.

thomond2006 · 22-09-2014 2:38pm

former legend wrote: »

Maybe when Ben Te'o is coming over he could entice one of his Rabbitohs team-mates to come with him on a short-term deal.

On Bayonne's radar apparently!

former legend · 22-09-2014 2:45pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

On Bayonne's radar apparently!

In all seriousness, if I knew that Dave Kearney and Luke were going to be out for a couple more months, I'd take Tuqiri in a flash.

molloyjh · 22-09-2014 2:49pm

former legend wrote: »

In all seriousness, if I knew that Dave Kearney and Luke were going to be out for a couple more months, I'd take Tuqiri in a flash.

Careful with language like that. He'll do his hammy again. :eek:

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 3:05pm

http://inpho.ie/assignment/Leinster-Rugby-Squad-Training-Monday/e0mF1Cg5qW826YPIQ8rI6g..a?ts=TzzPI6Q48j8_BGw6naIjuQ..a

First sight of Douglas

Moore Denton and Bent possibly

http://www.sportsfile.com/more-images/1409215/5000/

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 3:08pm

Douglas will get gametime this weekend from MOC
Reading LF

Eponymous · 22-09-2014 3:11pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

Douglas will get gametime this weekend from MOC
Reading LF

Can't link to twitter here, but @Leinsterrugby tweeted the quote earlier.

former legend · 22-09-2014 3:11pm

Interesting that Moore is training with Leinster while all the other internationals are in Ireland camp, usually a sign that the player needs a bit more fitness work. Hmmm.

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 3:12pm

Eponymous wrote: »

Can't link to twitter here, but @Leinsterrugby tweeted the quote earlier.

Im going blind. Cheers

Eponymous · 22-09-2014 3:13pm

Eponymous wrote: »

Can't link to twitter here, but @Leinsterrugby tweeted the quote earlier.

The quote was "He's fresh. At this stage he'll be involved at the weekend" Posted about 2 hours ago...

CatFromHue · 22-09-2014 3:22pm

Moore hasn't had any game time or been in any match day squads so far this season so it'd be strange for him to be included with Ireland

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 3:35pm

Looks like Conan and Luke McGrath too may play from pics

LostArt · 22-09-2014 3:36pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

Looks like Conan and Luke McGrath too may play from pics

Here's hoping

former legend · 22-09-2014 3:39pm

ssaye2 wrote: »

Looks like Conan and Luke McGrath too may play from pics

Can't really judge anything from today's pics because half of them are in Carton House.

Looks like McLaughlin sat it out though; injured as well?

ssaye2 · 22-09-2014 5:01pm

http://www.thescore.ie/kane-douglas-leinster-rds-cardiff-1684498-Sep2014/

molloyjh · 23-09-2014 9:06am

I'm actually genuinely nervous about this game on Friday. It's as close to a must win as you get at this stage in the season. Assuming Glasgow beat Connacht this weekend they'll be on at least 17 points. And it's hard to see them dropping many over the course of the season the way they look. Falling 9-10 points behind them so early would make things tough. Should Ospreys win they'd be up to 18 points at least. Although how good they are is hard to tell at this stage.

Cardiff aren't great but who we have available to us we don't know. We cannot afford another performance like Galway.

.ak · 23-09-2014 9:12am

There will be an absolute back lash from last Saturday. I imagine the pack will absolutely demolish Cardiff, and I'd be surprised if the 10 ever gets the ball...

former legend · 23-09-2014 9:17am

.ak wrote: »

There will be an absolute back lash from last Saturday. I imagine the pack will absolutely demolish Cardiff, and I'd be surprised if the 10 ever gets the ball...

And that's what we should be doing, playing to our strengths. If most of our decent backs are out injured, then we should just trample all over Cardiff up front and see if they can live with it.

Buer · 23-09-2014 9:19am

former legend wrote: »

And that's what we should be doing, playing to our strengths. If most of our decent backs are out injured, then we should just trample all over Cardiff up front and see if they can live with it.

That's not the Leinster way! Boo-urns! Change the coach!

Tox56 · 23-09-2014 9:21am

molloyjh wrote: »

I'm actually genuinely nervous about this game on Friday. It's as close to a must win as you get at this stage in the season. Assuming Glasgow beat Connacht this weekend they'll be on at least 17 points. And it's hard to see them dropping many over the course of the season the way they look. Falling 9-10 points behind them so early would make things tough. Should Ospreys win they'd be up to 18 points at least. Although how good they are is hard to tell at this stage.

Cardiff aren't great but who we have available to us we don't know. We cannot afford another performance like Galway.

In not nervous really, we could play this game for every week until the end of time and never lose it, it's the season as a whole that worries me, regardless of what happens on Friday. The best we can hope for is a comprehensive, confidence building demolition and move on, the only result here that has a real effect on the season would be a loss, and as I said, I can't see that at all

Tox56 · 23-09-2014 9:23am

I don't know what this Ireland camp is or whatever, but presuming they're available

McGrath Cronin Moore
Toner McCarthy
Ruddock SOB/Conan Ryan

Reddan Madigan
D'Arcy Macken
Fanning Kearney McFadden

That should be easily good enough in all honesty

Leinster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread V

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