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Boy 2 falls down 110 metre well in Malaga

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    myshirt wrote: »
    Man I think there are a couple of people who will meet up, it's not a joke.

    All the way from Athy to Stradbally. Even in the local for the next Manchester United game.

    Whats Athy, Stradbally and Man Utd got to do with anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,460 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    All seems so over complicated the approach to the rescue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    myshirt wrote: »
    From Malin Head to Mizen Head then.

    These type of things anger people and you can be sure someone will be getting kicked in the face or striped with a blade if people don't cool the heels here. Cry to the guards like a big girls blouse but it won't stop it, it's modern day internet gone mad but it's very very real. Don't fob it off with 'Sure'. Instead, people need to calm down. No one wants to see a person slashed across the face cos they thought they were a smart man on an internet forum, be it boards, Facebook, Twitter etc, it's not worth it.


    Edit: Look at this story as an example. Internet is gone mad. So everyone here should cool the heels and not be threatening each other. No one ultimately has ill wishes for the boy, tasteless jokes or not.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/ennis-teenager-face-stitches-attack-3677097-Nov2017/

    I dont think anyone has wished any ill upon the kid. The issue was the reaction to a youtube link

    Its a discussion forum, not evrryone will agree but threatening isnt the solution to a difference of opinion


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    “Emergency services fear Julen is beneath the bank of wet sand discovered 250ft down. By midday yesterday, just 30cm of earth had been removed from the shaft.

    Elias Bendodo, president of the Provincial Council of Malaga, said the search and rescue teams “would not stop until they found him”

    I really can’t stop thinking about this poor little guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭spakman


    Me neither, but I think I'll try to stay away from this thread. It's too scary and upsetting to think about what happened and what his parents must be going through. I hope it was over very quick for the poor little lad and that he knew very little of what was happening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,460 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


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    We need a miracle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    i feel sick for the parents. a living nightmare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    I've lived in Spain for a bit. There are places with unprotected 5m drops adjacent to a public footpath.

    I used to pass a couple on my way home from work thinking a small child or even someone with a few drinks just needs to make a small misjudgment to be killed.

    It's ridiculous.
    what happened to family is tragic, but most places in Europe dont have that compo mentality where youll be able to sue someone over slipping and hurting yourself like a lot of stupid stuff youd read people get here over nothing, Spain Portugal etc, they have towns layered with stone pathways that after some rain with slippers would break ones head open, cliffs that dont have any railing or support. Thou in some sense one has to be responsible for actions their doing and not be expecting nanny state to warn of every slip and drop that could happen if one doesn't take care themselves.


    thou in this case id say it was proper negligence whoever made a drill hole given its depth,not to cover it properly as seems area is remote from any path.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Ninthlife wrote: »
    I have kids so there goes your theory.

    Have you ever met them?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    Fuaranach wrote: »
    I checked El Pais and a very imperfect Google-translated update 30 minutes ago is here:

    If the highlighted translated section is accurate, are they casting aspersions on the authenticity of the parents' story? It seems odd the story is not getting more publicity.

    i wouldn't trust Google translate for nuance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    endacl wrote: »
    Have you ever met them?
    And what relevance is that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭rn


    With the sheer depth and likely hood of water being reached at that depth, it's impossible to see a good outcome for the poor toddler. As someone else pointed out I hope it was quick for him.

    It's maddening the negligence of the people who drilled it and then didn't appropriately cover or refill it in. I hope there are people thinking about similar holes all over Europe and they will take action to revisit and close them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19 milanomosher


    Edit: Quick update, it looks like they have obtained samples of hair from the well that indicate that the boy is there, and not that they have actually discovered a body.

    https://elpais.com/politica/2019/01/16/actualidad/1547625236_087830.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    Reports that the body has been located...utterly heart-breaking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    Sickening. I can only echo what someone said earlier - that he had a quick death.

    Makes me feel sick thinking of a little kid dying alone at the bottom of that well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tomwaits48


    poor fella :-(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    Keyzer wrote: »
    Sickening. I can only echo what someone said earlier - that he had a quick death.

    Makes me feel sick thinking of a little kid dying alone at the bottom of that well.

    I think it was quick. The father said he heard him crying for 30 seconds and then nothing, if it had been long and sustained then I assume they would have heard more sounds - with this story I will take whatever consolation I can get. Think of whatever ****ty little problems you have and then think of what this family has gone through, losing their 3 year old to sudden cardiac arrest and then their 2 year old like this - pain beyond comprehension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    donfers wrote: »
    I think it was quick. The father said he heard him crying for 30 seconds and then nothing, if it had been long and sustained then I assume they would have heard more sounds - with this story I will take whatever consolation I can get. Think of whatever ****ty little problems you have and then think of what this family has gone through, losing their 3 year old to sudden cardiac arrest and then their 2 year old like this - pain beyond comprehension.

    I don't say this lightly but, if I were in those circumstances, I personally wouldn't be able to continue.

    Life will move on, this story will be forgotten but those parents have to live with this for the rest of their lives. Terribly sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭RiseToMe


    New sources here in Malaga have mixed reporting going on. Some only referring to the hair found and that rescue mission is still ongoing as recent as a few minutes ago. Others reporting over three hours ago that a body has been found.


    Really hoping it's a translation thing and he is in fact still fighting down there and will be found


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    The Olive paper states that a body was found on an article posted at 1:30pm then they have a lead article an hour later talking about DNA only from hair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    Fingers crossed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    Please god this little fella is found alive. I know its going to take a miracle but we live in hope.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Please god this little fella is found alive. I know its going to take a miracle but we live in hope.

    Been thinking about this little guy all day, please please he's ok


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭Thespoofer


    Does anyone have information on when the searchers hope to get to the boy?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭rn


    Of course both could be true. A body found, but the recovery continues. Credit to the rescuers, it's a difficult task at hand especially given the extreme depth. The work will continue to reunite the we lad with his parents.

    I really hope it's not forgotten. There are lessons to be learned here around well drilling and exploration. Things have to be put back in a safe way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    rn wrote: »
    Of course both could be true. A body found, but the recovery continues. Credit to the rescuers, it's a difficult task at hand especially given the extreme depth. The work will continue to reunite the we lad with his parents.

    I really hope it's not forgotten. There are lessons to be learned here around well drilling and exploration. Things have to be put back in a safe way.

    If the well was not covered and bolted down, whoever is responsible should be doing jail time


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://twitter.com/juanykeville/status/1085520268301348864?s=21

    They have to be taking the piss
    DNA confirmed they reported


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    https://twitter.com/juanykeville/status/1085520268301348864?s=21

    They have to be taking the piss
    DNA confirmed they reported

    I don't think the body has been found, just hair. I can't see him being alive after 4 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,460 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Is it possible that there is enough air down there to survive, can we at least say there is indeed air, that a miracle is still possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭RiseToMe


    A body hasn't been found. They are currently opening to tunnels, one verticaly and one horizontal to where they think he is.

    There is a news source here in Malaga at the scene providing libe updates and still speaking about finding him alive

    https://www.lavanguardia.com/sucesos/20190117/454176721706/nino-pozo-totalan-malaga-rescate-cuerpo-julen-ultimas-noticias-en-directo.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    He'd need to have access to water. Hopefully there was some at the bottom. It's been 4 days without food or water poor soul. I can't see a good ending.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Doesn’t look good, they reckon he would have had to have fallen head first to make it any distance down the well and that there wouldn’t have been enough room to turn around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭pah


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Doesn’t look good, they reckon he would have had to have fallen head first to make it any distance down the well and that there wouldn’t have been enough room to turn around.

    Looking at the hole I would be very surprised if he went head first. IMO he would have had to trip over first and fall head first into it. I think it's much more likely he ran over it and dropped straight in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    According to that live feed above the process has run into some complications and that it will be a matter of days and not hours before they get near him.

    https://www.lavanguardia.com/sucesos...n-directo.html


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They hope he is in a semi conscious state, as his breathing would not be hard like in a panicked state.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,085 ✭✭✭rn


    It's such a long way down into the earth. The rescuers need a break or two on either plan a or b. It's not over until he's out.


  • Posts: 18,962 [Deleted User]


    Sadly, I don't see how the poor little fella could have survived this long.

    I hope that he didn't suffer a slow death.

    Just an awful story. The parents must be in complete bits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    That's horrifying!

    My sister had a similar accident when she was young, when workers left a drain open with the cement blocks moved aside. The fall inside literally ripped her face from the upper teeth to the forehead requiring intensive surgery.

    Trying to sue the council became fruitless...

    These negligent assholes that do these seriously need to be sued for all their ****ing worth. And jailed.


  • Administrators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,927 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Toots


    Forget about suing, they should be brought up on criminal charges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,212 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Where were the parents when he fell in, were they 10/20 ft away or right beside him or what, were they just out for a walk together, I just find it very odd that a 2yr old would be let roam freely in that rough looking terrain you'd at least be holding his hand if out for a little stroll, they hardly put him down there did they cos you'd never know with people unfortunatly


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    rgodard80a wrote: »
    Unfortunately they're just emotionally immature and obviously not a parent themselves. They'll be sending a valentine card to their playstation next month.

    I choo choo choose you. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    Where were the parents when he fell in, were they 10/20 ft away or right beside him or what, were they just out for a walk together, I just find it very odd that a 2yr old would be let roam freely in that rough looking terrain you'd at least be holding his hand if out for a little stroll, they hardly put him down there did they cos you'd never know with people unfortunatly

    Parents should be able to let their children walk freely without fearing their child will fall down a 350ft, 25cm unmarked hole.

    This is a freak accident and the parents were in no way negligent or responsible for what has happened their poor child.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,158 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    Where were the parents when he fell in, were they 10/20 ft away or right beside him or what, were they just out for a walk together, I just find it very odd that a 2yr old would be let roam freely in that rough looking terrain you'd at least be holding his hand if out for a little stroll, they hardly put him down there did they cos you'd never know with people unfortunatly

    Apparently the fathers cousin was right beside the child when he dropped into the hole . She reached in but he had gone . Very unfair in my opinion to speculate about anything other than a tragic accident


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    This thread is just getting ghoulish now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭PCros


    shamrock55 wrote: »
    Where were the parents when he fell in, were they 10/20 ft away or right beside him or what, were they just out for a walk together, I just find it very odd that a 2yr old would be let roam freely in that rough looking terrain you'd at least be holding his hand if out for a little stroll, they hardly put him down there did they cos you'd never know with people unfortunatly

    This happened on land owned by a family member and they were setting up for a picnic. I believe he was the uncle of the child and apparently he had drilled for water months ago and the well was supposedly covered.

    Also I read today that Spain has more than one million wells and catchments like this one for the use of groundwater.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,460 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Could the hole not have been vacuumed out using a giant vacuum truck on day one!



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    If possible it would be quick could catch him in net at other end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,460 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Bigbagofcans



    My heart jumped out of my chest looking at that. Reminded me of the film 'The Ring'.

    The poor little fella. Holding out for any kind of miracle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,212 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Parents should be able to let their children walk freely without fearing their child will fall down a 350ft, 25cm unmarked hole.

    This is a freak accident and the parents were in no way negligent or responsible for what has happened their poor child.

    Have you seen the terrain, I'll be honest and say I wouldn't let a 2yr old wonder around there on their own, we still don't know how far away the parents were


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,212 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Apparently the fathers cousin was right beside the child when he dropped into the hole . She reached in but he had gone . Very unfair in my opinion to speculate about anything other than a tragic accident

    She obviously wasn't watching him then or she would have seen the hole herself


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