Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

20-05-2019 7:56pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Are there any mods out there for PC version? All this talk makes me want to play it again but I'm damned if I'll engage with the elements that aged most poorly (eg random encounters). Any high definition patches would also be cool

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=15520.0
Everything you need for mods is there aside from New Threat, you can get that here.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14938.0
Be wary of load order and conflicts, not everything is cross-compatible

Retr0gamer · 21-05-2019 12:21am

There's also a translation mod I'd highly recommend. Means the game is in English now and not whatever the feck the original was written in.

Vicxas · 21-05-2019 9:47am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

There's also a translation mod I'd highly recommend. Means the game is in English now and not whatever the feck the original was written in.

I think the broken english was charming :pac:

pixelburp · 21-05-2019 9:50am

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=15520.0
Everything you need for mods is there aside from New Threat, you can get that here.

http://forums.qhimm.com/index.php?topic=14938.0
Be wary of load order and conflicts, not everything is cross-compatible

Bwah. Ok, maybe not lol. Not that I expect a game that's not open to modding 'easy' to mod for

Retr0gamer · 21-05-2019 9:57am

Vicxas wrote: »

I think the broken english was charming :pac:

It's worth playing it. The story is a lot clearer and makes more sense. Which is good and bad. There's no confusion but it also loses a lot of mystery and some of the ambiguous things are explained and you realise the story is really kind of basic and stupidly anime.

Some interesting stuff in there as well like how cloud taking on the persona of zack was a defense mechanism of jenova who can disguise itself to fit in with the local population. That's not explained in the English version.

Mr.Nice Guy · 21-05-2019 10:24pm

nix wrote: »

heh i learned the importance of using multiple saves with this game, i was only using one on my first play through and i got to the temple of the ancients and done a save before demons gate boss, i was pretty under leveled for him to say the least, there was no random battles from the last save point up until the boss so i couldnt grind. He just kept one shoting my party members, impossible to get passed.

I had to restart the game entirely, i remember being fairly mad about that, but it wasn't so bad as i was more familiar with the combat and items and had learned the importance of exploration, but still, thats a hell of a long back track :mad:

I can relate to this. I used to escape loads of battles the first time I played the game and as a result I was totally unprepared for this boss. I needed a second playthrough to get by him.

nix · 23-05-2019 2:29pm

A friend showed me this link, take of it what you will, its just info from an anonymous source who has played the demo, so just rumor.

https://wccftech.com/final-fantasy-vii-remake-playable-demo/amp/

I put the bullet points below in spoilers in case you cant access the link, read at your own peril. I would avoid reading completely if you have never played FF7, if you have played FF7, it has spoliers on minor changes you would get from playing a demo.

-Game is in fact 2 parts. Part 1 ends exactly as Aerith is let down into the water after her death and a fade to black.

-Materia is shown in ALMOST all weapons. They do not appear in accessories nor do accessories appear on your character model. Different weapons will however appear on your model for example Rune Blade will be on Cloud’s back if equipped and exploring.

-Different weapons have different triangle heavy hits (does not cost an ATB charge) Buster Sword has Punisher Rune Blade for for example has Cleave. You use these heavy hits after a string of regular hits. Regular hits are chip damage and the main damage will be from heavy combo finishers and the of course the massive LIMIT BREAKs.

-Using Magic will consume ATB along with MP. You get more bars as the game progresses.

-Summons will work for the most part as cut scenes like the original, they do not fight with you on the field. There is 1 new Summon Amarok and appears to be a wolf and causes darkness in addition to damage.

-Over-world map is almost seamless. There are some “zones.” There will be roads and methods of transportation. It is open world. Vehicles like the Tiny Bronco work almost exactly the same only being able to go in lighter water. There will be items available occasionally on the field. Chocobos will of course be obtainable after the farm.

-They have really made an effort to make each town feel lived in, and feel like there is a reason why each place is like the way it is. Each town is very unique from the last. Cosmo Canyon and its occasional dust storms are a stark contrast to the streets of Midgar. Upper Junon feels very much more like a military installation than Midgar as well.

-Sephiroth is very limited in what is shown of him until the Kalm flashback. Before this you only hear his voice or see glimpses of him during Clouds breakdowns.

-The HP shown during the state of play is not indicative of what their HP should/would be normally during those times. Simply for Dev showcasing.

-There will be demos on the game floor with PSN demo following shortly after for people at home directly after E3.(Playstation Plus required)

-Monster redesigns for a lot of the enemies but most will remain recognizable. Some do not make an appearance. For example there was no ghost enemies in the train yard.

-Shin-ra HQ wont have quite as many floors to explore but MORE to do on the floors you do go to so it still feels like your fighting through a lot to get to the top.

-The design for Tifa is also true to the original outfit, her face appears to be mostly similar to her Advent Children design but slightly more western. Materia also shows up on her gloves.

-Cait Sith seems to be pronounced “Ket” Sith but has undergone no major design overhaul. His fighting style is more close up, and does have his BARS for a LIMIT BREAK.

-Golden Saucer will have some games that are not playable(yet) because they are essentially replaying a part of a later story mission. Some will be playable right when you arrive. They want it to feel more grand and provide a break from the main story beats while still eventually having to incorporate the story into it later.

-Red XIII has clones Cobalt XIV and Indigo XV you must fight before he joins your party in Shin-ra HQ

-Cid does not appear to be smoking but you see evidence that he does. He is clearly upset with Shera but toned down the aggressiveness as they felt it was unnecessary.

-Yuffie and Vincent are no longer optional. You can miss them up until a certain point where they then become mandatory to get. You automatically get Yuffie if you have not gotten her before Rocket Town for example.

-Cloud will have a dress and wig in one particular scene. But its fade to black getting in/out of it.

-Honey Bee in requires GIL to get into instead of a membership card.

-Squatting mini-game returns.

-As these are FULL games each will be in fact priced at 59.99 USD

-Signals have gone out to retailers to prepare for pre-orders.

Sonics2k · 23-05-2019 2:36pm

Honestly it looks rather promising.

Not exactly enthralled about it being a 2 parter, who the hell knows when we'll actually get part 2.

fixXxer · 23-05-2019 2:36pm

$60 EACH??

BloodBath · 23-05-2019 2:45pm

I fairness I'm happy it's only 2 parts. I was expecting 3.

They are filling out 1 of the most ambitious games ever made, that originally took over 5 years to make.

Turning 2d backgrounds into fully realised 3d areas and the world map becomes a 3d open world. That's no small task.

Imagine the amount of work required just to remake the golden saucer and all it's mini games in 3d.

Zero-Cool · 23-05-2019 2:56pm

They info actually has me hyped again, some great sounding stuff there like less floors to Shinra HQ. The 2 parter sounds much better than episodic but full price for both is a bit mad. Saying that, I'm sure part 1 could be equivalent of another full game as it is. Interesting anyway, looking forward to the demo after E3 if true.

nix · 23-05-2019 3:19pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

They info actually has me hyped again, some great sounding stuff there like less floors to Shinra HQ. The 2 parter sounds much better than episodic but full price for both is a bit mad. Saying that, I'm sure part 1 could be equivalent of another full game as it is. Interesting anyway, looking forward to the demo after E3 if true.

Just wait for the second game and they will likely have a complete edition which will be a better price, ill be holding out until both are on sale if not anyway. No rush, i know the story already

quokula · 23-05-2019 3:30pm

If they do a good job then $120 is a not an unreasonable price. When you adjust for inflation, and consider how much more detailed the game is, it's probably better value than the original.

I'm more concerned about any compromises to the game design by splitting it up - i.e. your ability to go back and forward between areas at any time like you could in the original. That and just the worry of finishing the first part and waiting years for part 2 to come...

BloodBath · 23-05-2019 3:31pm

Initially a playstation 4 exclusive as well. Sucks for me. I want this but I'm a PC gamer.

Will probably have to wait a year to get it on PC.

I hate this exclusive nonsense.

Retr0gamer · 23-05-2019 3:57pm

I thought this was mentioned as coming to PC as well.

I think there's a possibility that Sony are helping to fund it so might be an exclusive after all.

Vicxas · 23-05-2019 5:40pm

So 120 quid.

Jesus Fcking Christ Square Enix....

pixelburp · 23-05-2019 5:45pm

PC gamer here too, so disappointing to hear that it won't (initially) be on PC, not to mention potentially costing 120 for the whole thing. Feels like like one to wait for in a sale.

The other tidbits are more heartening though, that the game's original fun-loving tone will survive the translation.

BloodBath · 23-05-2019 8:35pm

I think the pricing is fair tbh. There's going to be 50-100 hours of gameplay in each part.

It's not going to work out much different from a normal game + 2-3 dlc model with similar game time.

Only difference is you are stuck on a mid game cliffhanger with at least a year to wait for the rest.

YouSavedMyLife · 24-05-2019 12:19am

Happy its only in 2 parts but 120 Euro for both is mental. It's not like its a new I.P or a brand new story with new ideas. And saying they are "re-creating" everything from 2D to 3D is why the price is so high doesn't fly with me. They are using whatever engine FF15 used and just creating new assets in that engine.

Also a delayed PC release really sucks. So i have ill have to play it at 28-30 FPS on the PoS4. Seems I'm better off waiting for the PC complete edition release and buying it for 40 Euro on CDkeys

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2019 12:22am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Happy its only in 2 parts but 120 Euro for both is mental. It's not like its a new I.P or a brand new story with new ideas. And saying they are "re-creating" everything from 2D to 3D is why the price is so high doesn't fly with me. They are using whatever engine FF15 used and just creating new assets in that engine.

Also a delayed PC release really sucks. So i have ill have to play it at 28-30 FPS on the PoS4. Seems I'm better off waiting for the PC complete edition release and buying it for 40 Euro on CDkeys

So should every Unreal Engine game be 30 euro because they are just using the same engine and sticking assets in it?

If each part of the game is substantial enough it will be worth full price. And they aren't just recreating ff7 they're basically making an entirely new game.

johnny_ultimate · 24-05-2019 12:26am

Folks, all this stuff should come with a serious health warning since it’s a random reddit rumour. Could be true, could be absolutely bull****. So I’d take it for what it is until proven otherwise: an unverified rumour.

YouSavedMyLife · 24-05-2019 12:31am

Retr0gamer wrote: »

So should every Unreal Engine game be 30 euro because they are just using the same engine and sticking assets in it?

If each part of the game is substantial enough it will be worth full price. And they aren't just recreating ff7 they're basically making an entirely new game.

So all "entirely new game's" should be 120 then.

Necro · 24-05-2019 12:36am

Don't see an issue with the price. It's not just a remaster we're talking about here it's a complete remake.

Really excited about this I can see a week off work to simply play this in my future

quokula · 24-05-2019 12:44am

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Folks, all this stuff should come with a serious health warning since it’s a random reddit rumour. Could be true, could be absolutely bull****. So I’d take it for what it is until proven otherwise: an unverified rumour.

This is true, but they do seem detailed / mundane enough to potentially be accurate. Nothing in there wasn’t believable.

BloodBath · 24-05-2019 12:53am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

So all "entirely new game's" should be 120 then.

The majority of "new" games aren't even 20% of the scope of remaking FF7.

Serious lack of understanding of the monumental task of remaking this game.

The game is more than doubling in scope and size with a world to fill out that we only got single camera angle glimpses of in the original.

You can always wait for both to release and pick them up together at a normal price I'm sure.

Retr0gamer · 24-05-2019 5:32am

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

So all "entirely new game's" should be 120 then.

If it's two games worth of content then yeah.

24-05-2019 4:58pm

While i believe it's fairly naïve to think Square aren't double dipping just because they can, we need to see the entire scope of the remake before judging.
If we got the amount of playtime and content of DQXI paired with the graphical fidelity of FF15 then I'd be all for it, however if we just get FF15 Royal Edition spread over two discs then I'd be pretty pissed.
We'll wait and see.

YouSavedMyLife · 24-05-2019 8:42pm

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

While i believe it's fairly naïve to think Square aren't double dipping just because they can, we need to see the entire scope of the remake before judging.

This. I loved FF7, its probably my favourite game of all time but im not really seeing the "content" or "scope" everyone on here is talking about. The Witcher 3 should have been 120 Euro in that case, and i bet FF7R won't even come close to that game in terms of "content" and "scope"

RedXIV · 24-05-2019 11:57pm

Do remember guys, it took about 10 months for FFXV to hit <15 quid. if 120 for both on release is one thing. If you're willing to wait until release of part 2 (which is the rumour) you'll probably pick up part 1 for a tenner.

Considering I dropped about 250 for FFXV ultimate edition because my gaming time is so reduced that I only buy one or two games a year now, this will be fine for me.

Really hoping the demo does appear after E3!!!

Retr0gamer · 25-05-2019 1:09am

If it's an 8 hour game of quality game play I'd spend 60 euro on it.

When has an extended playtime ever been a hallmark of quality? Stuff like most of ubisofts output and recent games like days gone are testament to this.

For the rose tinted glasses brigade, ff7 isn't even that big a game. It's a 40 hour rpg without super boss grinding (oy added to the western release as well)

I paid full price for 15 hours of ace combat 7 and it was hands down the best game this year.

BloodBath · 25-05-2019 6:05pm

All I'm saying is if they felt they need to do this to cover development costs and get the product out the door sooner then I'm fine with it as opposed to the the project not happening at all. Prices will come down.

The original was 50-100 hours depending on how much of a completionist you were. With the world filled out and some actual new content I'd expect this to at least double.

The witcher 3 has a total of 70 different enemies. FF7 has over 250. I'm sure they will cut this number down a bit but that's still around 250 enemies that need to be designed and animated, abilities assigned and combat ai worked out. That's some of the scope I'm talking about.

Also 9 playable characters, 15 towns and 16 summons. FF15 had 1 playable character at launch, 3 summons and 2 towns. More were added with DLC but still. If you don't understand the scope of doing all this and more then you are naive about the reality of how hard and time consuming game development is.

K.O.Kiki · 25-05-2019 7:46pm

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

This. I loved FF7, its probably my favourite game of all time but im not really seeing the "content" or "scope" everyone on here is talking about. The Witcher 3 should have been 120 Euro in that case, and i bet FF7R won't even come close to that game in terms of "content" and "scope"

Witcher 3 had 2 expansions, at €10 + €20. So if you did buy at full-price, you'd have to spend another 50% on top of that.

Mind you, they were proper DLC campaigns that were started after the main game was done.

Mr.Nice Guy · 25-05-2019 8:00pm

Maybe I'm set in my ways but not convinced I can justify to myself paying 120 quid for a game.

The appeal of it to me is that it's a nostalgia purchase and that nostalgia won't hurt with time passing so if that price is accurate I'll probably hold off on buying it initially.

ShaneU · 10-06-2019 6:50am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bgJLy-OeBI

3rd March 2020

Sephiroth_dude · 10-06-2019 10:38am

3rd of March?

Necro · 10-06-2019 10:40am

Looks great, I'm off to play the original now because that trailer has me off down memory lane now

YouSavedMyLife · 10-06-2019 2:42pm

That trailer. Huh hah huh, huhhuhhuhhaaaaa.
Heh. Huh. Huh huh huh huh huuuh. Haaaa. Hah haaaaaaaa.

Who did the sound mixing on this trailer Jesus Christ. Hope the game is better

pixelburp · 10-06-2019 3:01pm

Every time I see those Real Dolls in action, my enthusiasm cools for this; they've obviously retained the cartoony look of the robots, and presumably the monsters too, yet going for this hyper-real look in the human characters doesn't work.

one armed dwarf · 10-06-2019 3:10pm

Why is Aeris under attack by demontors?

Evade · 10-06-2019 3:13pm

one armed dwarf wrote: »

Why is Aeris under attack by demontors?

Possibly because Mako is people and Cloud was infused with it.

Sephiroth_dude · 10-06-2019 7:56pm

Hopefully they might give us a timeline for when the other parts release.

10-06-2019 8:48pm

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Hopefully they might give us a timeline for when the other parts release.

Thought it was just 2?

ShaneU · 10-06-2019 9:12pm

Find it hard to believe it's just two releases when they have only shown Midgar which was 10% of the game

Sephiroth_dude · 10-06-2019 9:13pm

Fred The Red wrote: »

Thought it was just 2?

Spilt into three part no? Two would be better or none at all .

RedXIV · 10-06-2019 9:59pm

Fred The Red wrote: »

Thought it was just 2?

The only source for that was the reddit post that was proven to be a hoax after all.

We haven't confirmed the number of parts yet but 3 seems likely

nix · 10-06-2019 10:08pm

Christ if it was a hoax, its taken them this long to just do midgar, it will take aaaages to do the rest of the game

RedXIV · 11-06-2019 2:05am

Sounds like its 2 discs with disc 1 being all in Midgar from the start of the square presentation???

More here -> https://www.engadget.com/2019/06/10/final-fantasy-7-remake-will-take-up-two-blu-ray-discs/

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Bet this is 300 quid

Edit: Yep, it is -> Eu link here

johnny_ultimate · 11-06-2019 2:46am

Hate to say it folks (if only to avoid the pile on

), but I really and truly think this looks real bad. As I mentioned before, I pretty much hate the aesthetics they’ve gone with, and the combat looks like that weird, over-busy, pseudo real-time combat that I’ve never been properly able to get into in games like FFXV or Xenoblade. Now it does come with the disclaimer that we haven’t seen any of the wacky and wild stuff + locations that make the original so memorable... but having such a big chunk of this set in Midgar is setting off alarm bells. A few cool, flashy effects like the limit breaks are the only things standing out at all here, and that’s the least you’d expect.

I’ll never dismiss a game based on only trailers, and I look forward to hearing how it plays when it finally comes out. Genuinely hope it’s surprisingly good. But what I’ve seen so far looks like a game I wouldn’t pay any attention to at all if it wasn’t a remake of such a significant classic. For now though, at this early stage, my main takeaway is ‘hard pass’, and I’d much rather replay the original over what I’ve seen so far of this.

nix · 11-06-2019 3:24am

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Hate to say it folks (if only to avoid the pile on ), but I really and truly think this looks real bad. As I mentioned before, I pretty much hate the aesthetics they’ve gone with, and the combat looks like that weird, over-busy, pseudo real-time combat that I’ve never been properly able to get into in games like FFXV or Xenoblade. Now it does come with the disclaimer that we haven’t seen any of the wacky and wild stuff + locations that make the original so memorable... but having such a big chunk of this set in Midgar is setting off alarm bells. A few cool, flashy effects like the limit breaks are the only things standing out at all here, and that’s the least you’d expect.

I’ll never dismiss a game based on only trailers, and I look forward to hearing how it plays when it finally comes out. Genuinely hope it’s surprisingly good. But what I’ve seen so far looks like a game I wouldn’t pay any attention to at all if it wasn’t a remake of such a significant classic. For now though, at this early stage, my main takeaway is ‘hard pass’, and I’d much rather replay the original over what I’ve seen so far of this.

Yeah I'm not sold myself, and i consider FF7 one of the best games ive ever played...EVER. The combat system reveal did seem a lot better than i was expecting to be fair but still very button mashy looking, even more so at the amount of health the scorpion boss had when they were chipping away at it..

My plan is to hold off until the entire game is released , i will likely only breach that if the above Collectors edition is a decent price, but knowing Square, it will be €200+ which is a deal breaker..

Vicxas · 11-06-2019 6:39am

I am getting less and less enthused about this really not liking the combat look and the active attacks and time slowing down to make larger attacks is not what I wanted at all.

Didn't like FFXV for that reason.

Final Fantasy VII Remaster/Remake

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