Beef AI/Bulls MEGATHREAD

golodge · 02-07-2019 8:29pm

Newborn bull calf from Tweeddale Lookout. 281day gestation, cow is 3rd calver, calved unassisted. Should be around 45kg.

Pidae.m · 03-07-2019 9:15pm

I've said it here before but anyone on Snapchat should follow jalex herd. He'd a long clip today of in calf heifers he is selling in the spring.

Hard Knocks · 03-07-2019 10:10pm

Pidae.m wrote: »

I've said it here before but anyone on Snapchat should follow jalex herd. He'd a long clip today of in calf heifers he is selling in the spring.

Some nice BBX & LMX heifers

bogman_bass · 04-07-2019 3:17pm

What’s the user name?

Limestone Cowboy · 04-07-2019 3:19pm

bogman_bass wrote: »

What’s the user name?

jalexherd

patsy_mccabe · 04-07-2019 7:22pm

Jalex buy their heifers down south and sell most of them to customers down south again. Bit mad when from a disease control point of view. What testing is involved for this?

Never wrestle with pigs · 05-07-2019 12:17am

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Jalex buy their heifers down south and sell most of them to customers down south again. Bit mad when from a disease control point of view. What testing is involved for this?

If you produced / breed the same stock for sale here lads wouldn't pay you half the price they will give to travel up there and buy them. It's mad really.

Hard Knocks · 05-07-2019 7:25am

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

If you produced / breed the same stock for sale here lads wouldn't pay you half the price they will give to travel up there and buy them. It's mad really.

Reputation & name
Isn’t it the same when buying a bull

squinn2912 · 05-07-2019 8:26am

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

If you produced / breed the same stock for sale here lads wouldn't pay you half the price they will give to travel up there and buy them. It's mad really.

That’s exactly it. Lads going mad running after the designer label. Pumped to the gills with meal and calving at 36 months at 700kgs plus. Lot of side door fun too I’ve heard of little only hard calvings. They’re flashy looking surely but even should they work out their male calves be far too big for factory so there’s another nice cut on the last day.
Like the above post says, the most profitable way is to produce your own replacements

Pidae.m · 08-07-2019 6:17am

You get the idea

Pidae.m · 08-07-2019 6:18am

Saw this bucko on Instagram.

Pidae.m · 08-07-2019 6:24am

Ten months old. Off a xgl stock bull. Cow calving 10th of Sept to escalop.

Pidae.m · 08-07-2019 6:27am

Dry cow I bought, delighted she started springing..... What were the odds!!

golodge · 08-07-2019 8:14pm

Little girl shaping up well. She had a rough start, when her dam didn't have milk after calving, but later another cow lost her calf and took her with ease.

Lady Haywire · 14-07-2019 9:55am

Used SOY today. That's an old straw for sure!
Also used Knockmoyle Loki on a couple yesterday, seems to be dropping nice calves.

Also might have got my paws on a VDC straw. Might!!

Hard Knocks · 14-07-2019 11:47am

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Used SOY today. That's an old straw for sure!
Also used Knockmoyle Loki on a couple yesterday, seems to be dropping nice calves.

Also might have got my paws on a VDC straw. Might!!

Is VDC still to be got
Remember going to the ploughing when in school and was impressed with the calves
Sadly couldn’t convince

Lady Haywire · 14-07-2019 2:09pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Is VDC still to be got
Remember going to the ploughing when in school and was impressed with the calves
Sadly couldn’t convince

I was told there was a straw floating around that I *may* be able to have. Will see how it pans out though.
Would be ecstatic if I can get it, no harm if I can't.

Baalbec10 · 18-07-2019 9:50pm

Anyone any thoughts on where to get a good limousin heifer to start a small herd from. We already have a few blondes and a simentals purebred, looking to get a nice limousin to breed our own stock bull of off every year to mop up cows. We would have a few options to use each year then depending on who has a bull calf. Would ye say wait till later in the year for sales or contact breeders individually. Thanks

patsy_mccabe · 02-08-2019 12:55pm

Anyone ever use the bull Edakkya (LM2242)?
Seems to be a good all-rounder. 198 calves by him on the ground.
€18 a straw.

https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1047315556

https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/Store/Detail/EDAKKYA

High bike · 02-08-2019 3:40pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Anyone ever use the bull Edakkya (LM2242)?
Seems to be a good all-rounder. 198 calves by him on the ground.
€18 a straw.

https://webapp.icbf.com/v2/app/bull-search/view/1047315556

https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/Store/Detail/EDAKKYA

Looks good Patsy but the reliability figures are low so you’d be taking a chance I think

patsy_mccabe · 02-08-2019 4:15pm

High bike wrote: »

Looks good Patsy but the reliability figures are low so you’d be taking a chance I think

He's proven in France. Fertility 118 and Milk 107. Were you happy with Bavardage? I remember you were going to try him? I was told by Munster AI that straws are now gone.

High bike · 03-08-2019 9:05pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

He's proven in France. Fertility 118 and Milk 107. Were you happy with Bavardage? I remember you were going to try him? I was told by Munster AI that straws are now gone.

Had a heifer calf but not over impressed with her so far, she’s very slow to shape up or maybe they’r not very muscley I don’t know.

patsy_mccabe · 23-08-2019 9:45pm

New Progressive Genetics catalogue;

https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/docs/PGBeef2020-compressed.pdf

adne · 23-08-2019 10:16pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

New Progressive Genetics catalogue;

https://www.progressivegenetics.ie/docs/PGBeef2020-compressed.pdf

Way beef heading could b a collectors item n few years!!!

patsy_mccabe · 30-08-2019 11:26pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

From the Irish Limousin website;

Until further notice Ballinloan Jaegerbomb progeny pedigrees, future registrations and trading are suspended
https://www.irishlimousin.com/2019/05/03/ballinloan-jaegerbomb/

From the UK Limousin site;
We have become aware that BCMS have withdrawn passports for various Ballinloan and other Ballinloan related animals and BCMS have sent notices to the owners of the relevant animals. The cause appears to be errors relating to the registration of either the date of birth and/or the parentage of the animals concerned. These animals are also registered with the British Limousin Cattle Society. Below is a list of animals where we are aware that BCMS have withdrawn the passport. This means that the pedigree of these animals and any progeny is in doubt.
https://limousin.co.uk/2019/05/notice-to-blcs-members/

Update on this. Must have been some serious messing going on in that herd.
https://www.irishlimousin.com/2019/08/30/update-from-british-limousin-cattle-society-28th-august-2019/

patsy_mccabe · 30-08-2019 11:35pm

Drones and PI's (non BVD type) were used to uncover the errors;

https://www.fwi.co.uk/livestock/beef/exclusive-whistle-blower-uses-drones-and-private-investigators-to-uncover-lim-passport-errors

Lady Haywire · 30-08-2019 11:36pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Update on this. Must have been some serious messing going on in that herd.
https://www.irishlimousin.com/2019/08/30/update-from-british-limousin-cattle-society-28th-august-2019/

Huh.....so what's the general consensus? Were there different breeds introduced or is it all to do with DOB. I'd have thought if it was just a birthdate issue they wouldn't strip the Ped status.
Going to be some very ticked off breeders.

patsy_mccabe · 30-08-2019 11:40pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Huh.....so what's the general consensus? Were there different breeds introduced or is it all to do with DOB. I'd have thought if it was just a birthdate issue they wouldn't strip the Ped status.
Going to be some very ticked off breeders.

Don't know. DOB's seem to be the only hard evidence mentioned. Can't see how changing the registered dam tag no. would help the breeder.

Lady Haywire · 30-08-2019 11:49pm

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Don't know. DOB's seem to be the only hard evidence mentioned. Can't see how changing the registered dam tag no. would help the breeder.

Nor can I. It's very strange.

High bike · 30-08-2019 11:54pm

Whatever it was I’m glad they got caught

Hard Knocks · 02-09-2019 10:53pm

Has anyone here used Deeleview Major Charolais bull in Bova?

Lady Haywire · 08-09-2019 1:38pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

My first set of twins were by him. Look framey, not muscley so would be good for bullocks or yearling heifers, not weanlings.
Then again, they're twins so my calves could be a bit shíte too :pac:

Might withdraw my Bivouac comment

Not bad for a senior citizen cow!

Hard Knocks · 08-09-2019 7:25pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Might withdraw my Bivouac comment Not bad for a senior citizen cow!

Is that the bull calf?
He’s a nice calf
Does the cow need to be muscled?

Lady Haywire · 08-09-2019 7:35pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Is that the bull calf?
He’s a nice calf
Does the cow need to be muscled?

Yea, that's the two twins. Cow isn't really muscley, out of Navarin & an CH/AA/FR dam. She has milk though.
Bull is a touch low in himself, just hasn't stretched like the heifer but he was born smaller so expect he'll catch up at some stage. Bout 6 months now I think.

I had used Bivouac again on a heifer this year but she repeated & broke to a ch bull so nothing due to him next year :pac:

Hard Knocks · 08-09-2019 10:43pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Yea, that's the two twins. Cow isn't really muscley, out of Navarin & an CH/AA/FR dam. She has milk though.
Bull is a touch low in himself, just hasn't stretched like the heifer but he was born smaller so expect he'll catch up at some stage. Bout 6 months now I think.

I had used Bivouac again on a heifer this year but she repeated & broke to a ch bull so nothing due to him next year :pac:

I’m interested as I like him for PB breeding due to gestation
Was told he didn’t suit my cow as she wasn’t muscle enough , so just wondering others opinion

grassroot1 · 08-09-2019 10:44pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Might withdraw my Bivouac comment Not bad for a senior citizen cow!

fair play ye never seem to have a bad one

Lady Haywire · 09-09-2019 12:10am

Hard Knocks wrote: »

I’m interested as I like him for PB breeding due to gestation
Was told he didn’t suit my cow as she wasn’t muscle enough , so just wondering others opinion

He'd probably need some muscle in the cows breeding, like I wouldn't go putting him on anything off a dairy cow. I've not seen any PB stock off him either, just when you mention it.

grassroot1 wrote: »

fair play ye never seem to have a bad one

The Pottlereagh Mark one isn't much at the moment! Goldie though so he has that going for him. Pleased with those two for 6 months though. I'd have been happy with either of them as a single.

grassroot1 · 09-09-2019 1:35pm

Are they on meal?

Lady Haywire · 09-09-2019 1:37pm

grassroot1 wrote: »

Are they on meal?

Yea, 13 calves on about 15kg a day but I reckon the 2 older calves along with the six twins eating a good chunk of that.

Seanhorse91 · 16-09-2019 3:20pm

Anyone on here have any experience with the following bulls..
Maerdy Sinndar
Bova Sylvian
Looking to use them on a purebred cow, pirate in her back pedigree to try and produce a more traditional Charolais.
Sagesse Pierre, recently bought by Bova, is out of Maerdy Sinndar, he’s a smashing looking bull. Reserve champion in tullamore

Hard Knocks · 16-09-2019 3:31pm

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Anyone on here have any experience with the following bulls..
Maerdy Sinndar
Bova Sylvian
Looking to use them on a purebred cow, pirate in her back pedigree to try and produce a more traditional Charolais.
Sagesse Pierre, recently bought by Bova, is out of Maerdy Sinndar, he’s a smashing looking bull. Reserve champion in tullamore

Sylvian is the way to go, noted cow maker
Sadly Stars aren’t great

Seanhorse91 · 16-09-2019 9:18pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Sylvian is the way to go, noted cow maker
Sadly Stars aren’t great

Have you used him yourself? Is he leaving good females?
The star system can really leave a great looking bull like him with good pedigree in the lurch. Awful pity

Hard Knocks · 16-09-2019 10:21pm

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Have you used him yourself? Is he leaving good females?
The star system can really leave a great looking bull like him with good pedigree in the lurch. Awful pity

I’ve no Sylvain females but intend to use him.
Had a bull (which we lost) lovely calf
Other breeders highly recommend

Seanhorse91 · 17-09-2019 9:55am

Hard Knocks wrote: »

I’ve no Sylvain females but intend to use him.
Had a bull (which we lost) lovely calf
Other breeders highly recommend

Thanks very much Hard Knocks, I’ll give him a go. I’m guessing his star rating have an effect on his price, only €10 a straw. Saying that Bova seem to always have a fair price on their straws

Hard Knocks · 17-09-2019 1:12pm

Seanhorse91 wrote: »

Thanks very much Hard Knocks, I’ll give him a go. I’m guessing his star rating have an effect on his price, only €10 a straw. Saying that Bova seem to always have a fair price on their straws

Stars have no effect on straw price
What age is your cow & how many calves?

GiantPencil · 17-09-2019 1:20pm

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

tanko · 17-09-2019 2:24pm

He's four and a half years old now, an ideal bull for heifers.

Hard Knocks · 17-09-2019 2:43pm

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

Any pic?

GiantPencil · 17-09-2019 2:46pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

Any pic?

Didn't take one I'm afraid. Hopefully someone else posts one

High bike · 17-09-2019 4:17pm

GiantPencil wrote: »

Saw the AI bull Highfield Odhran SA2153 in the Salers tent at the ploughing, he's a big boy!

have a smasher of a heifer off him from last year

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