EA UFC 4

WhymeWhynot · 06-08-2020 9:22am

What time can I play the McGregor fight?

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 9:35am

Some really great videos on Takedown defense, submissions, transition fakes and defending transitions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E22z7EgI57g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnmFrimMhJk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y4wY9LNN54

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fG1_YRY7Tg

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 11:13am

Trophies are out there. All fairly simple bar these 2, specifically the Blitz winner if there's going to be as many people competing as I think there will be.

https://psnprofiles.com/trophies/11228-ea-sports-ufc-4

Achieve Ultimate Victory in Blitz Battles.
Become champion and defend the title once in Online World Championships.

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 11:23am

Clinch Mechanics tutorial. This is a big help for getting a good early start on competition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGBJ6NrjNxk

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 4:14pm

And Nunes is the top rated fighter.

Mr Blobby · 06-08-2020 4:26pm

Are they doing the 10hr trial thing they do with new releases?

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 4:34pm

Mr Blobby wrote: »

Are they doing the 10hr trial thing they do with new releases?

Yupp, it's going live sometime after midnight tonight on EA Access. EA didn't say what time exactly though.

Axwell · 06-08-2020 5:34pm

Anyone getting it on EA access? Assume its the 10hr limit as normal. Not sure ill bother, did it with Fifa last year and all it does is annoy you when the time runs out and you have to wait days to play the game again.

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 5:41pm

Axwell wrote: »

Anyone getting it on EA access? Assume its the 10hr limit as normal. Not sure ill bother, did it with Fifa last year and all it does is annoy you when the time runs out and you have to wait days to play the game again.

Yupp, my plan is a couple of hours a night to stretch it out, feel out career difficulty levels to decide what i will start as in the full game.

Axwell · 06-08-2020 6:20pm

Im tempted to play a bit of career but i know I’ll probably end up jumping online which is a but of a waste. Cant see myself playing it on legendary, would rather a first play through thats enjoyable, not too easy but not a ball breaker either. Will probably save legendary for a second or third play through if career turns out to be good.

stephenl15 · 06-08-2020 6:38pm

No sign of any pre downloads for the ea access anyway.

I'll just stick to career mode id say to get a feel for it. Don't wanna waste my time learning off transition denials for online until it fully comes out. Will probably play a few online games all the same

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 6:52pm

I'm gonna wait for legend for 2nd playthrough but i want to see the difference between normal and hard. I saw a free career videos on normal and they are just spamming punch and getting handy ko's which i know will become boring but legendary looks a pain to learn moves so hoping hard will be a nice inbetween to keep things interesting. Will be doing an easy career at some point for the trophy 'defend the belt 12 times consecutively'.

martyos121 · 06-08-2020 6:54pm

Forgot I had EA Access, nice surprise to be able to put a few hours into it this weekend to get a feel for the game. I’ll probably spend the 10 hours trying to find as many ways to spam and cheese easy wins as possible playing others respectfully online in the spirit of a true martial artist.

Axwell · 06-08-2020 6:55pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Might be the best time to start a new US account so, get 7 day free trial with ea Access, download and install ufc 3 from it and get 20% discount off UFC 4.

Is the 20% discount just from buying it via UFC 3 or is it via ea access. - thought it was 10% via ufc 3?
Going to setup my US account - I already have UFC 3 in my library from my Irish account so I dont need it from ea access..but do I need to do it via ea access to get the 20%?

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 7:00pm

Axwell wrote: »

Is the 20% discount just from buying it via UFC 3 or is it via ea access. - thought it was 10% via ufc 3?
Going to setup my US account - I already have UFC 3 in my library from my Irish account so I dont need it from ea access..but do I need to do it via ea access to get the 20%?

10% off if you buy it from the ufc 3 menu. Then when you get to checkout, it will add another 10% discount if you have ea Access.

For anyone who didn't know, you get ufc 3 free with ea Access so sign up for free trial or just pay 1 month sub, download ufc 3 and then buy ufc 4 through the ufc 3 main menu for 20% off.

Axwell · 06-08-2020 7:20pm

Ugghh..sony and their digital content. I own ufc 3 on Irish account but cant access the pre order discount via my us account as dlc content is region locked (seems the preorder is like a dlc). So need to go download the game via ea access just to go in and pre order 4..still 20% off and paying in $ probably makes up for the hassle and effort.

stephenl15 · 06-08-2020 8:34pm

How do non gamechangers on Youtube have the game now?

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 8:39pm

stephenl15 wrote: »

How do non gamechangers on Youtube have the game now?

Apparently game shops in America have this in stock and one either employee or friend of employee posted a pic of it, guessing plenty other people in the same boat.

Axwell · 06-08-2020 8:47pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Some really great videos on Takedown defense, submissions, transition fakes and defending transitions.

There are good vids, can't help but notice that he seems to be using the new controls vs the legacy ones in them - would assume he played ucf3 but has decided to embrace the new controls

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 9:19pm

Axwell wrote: »

There are good vids, can't help but notice that he seems to be using the new controls vs the legacy ones in them - would assume he played ucf3 but has decided to embrace the new controls

I have a feeling he was told to give a tutorial but use new controls which was weird cuz they weren't really needed in those videos.

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2020 9:52pm

Are we sold on the new controls then or will a lot of people still revert back?

martyos121 · 06-08-2020 10:00pm

Haven’t played the full game yet but based on the beta, there’s zero chance I’ll use the new controls, legacy all the way.

There’s absolutely no skill or nuance in the new ground system from what I’ve played of it (not a lot tbh).

stephenl15 · 06-08-2020 10:01pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Are we sold on the new controls then or will a lot of people still revert back?

Will definitely use legacy. They're not exactly new controls, more simplified and gives you less options

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2020 10:01pm

martyos121 wrote: »

Haven’t played the full game yet but based on the beta, there’s zero chance I’ll use the new controls, legacy all the way.

There’s absolutely no skill or nuance in the new ground system from what I’ve played of it (not a lot tbh).

I'll give it a go but by the sound of things ill be switching ha.

Kinda crap so hopefully its improved or its one of those things u pick up with time.

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 10:02pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Are we sold on the new controls then or will a lot of people still revert back?

Oh the new controls are unplayable for anyone who has played it before. It's basically there to appease to anyone who said the controls were too complicated but went way too far. I'm sure reviewers will have an easier time and therefore give a higher score.

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2020 10:03pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Oh the new controls are unplayable for anyone who has played it before. It's basically there to appease to anyone who said the controls were too complicated but went way too far. I'm sure reviewers will have an easier time and therefore give a higher score.

FFS :pac: I'm curious to see how bad they are at least haha.

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 10:05pm

Also it was hinted that legacy controls were going to be completely removed so no one could complain it was too complicated anymore. Pure rumour but wouldn't put it past EA. Also a game changer hinted the game was designed to be reviewer friendly which you can take blame them for wanting better reviews and sales.

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2020 10:08pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Also it was hinted that legacy controls were going to be completely removed so no one could complain it was too complicated anymore. Pure rumour but wouldn't put it past EA. Also a game changer hinted the game was designed to be reviewer friendly which you can take blame them for wanting better reviews and sales.

I hope there in there otherwise there will be some serious backlash when the game is released!

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 10:09pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

I hope there in there otherwise there will be some serious backlash when the game is released!

Oh they are thankfully. Beta became so much better when i switched to legacy and turned off the red effect that fills half the screen when someone is rocked.

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2020 10:10pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Oh they are thankfully. Beta became so much better when i switched to legacy and turned off the red effect that fills half the screen when someone is rocked.

Is the submission system still the same? I noticed it looks different on screen if anything it makes the whole thing seem even more confusing!

Zero-Cool · 06-08-2020 10:12pm

How Soon Is Now wrote: »

Is the submission system still the same? I noticed it looks different on screen if anything it makes the whole thing seem even more confusing!

Ha yeah, they said the new sub system is easier but everyone had problems with it in the beta. I posted a video here this morning where a guy shows how the new sub system works.

How Soon Is Now · 06-08-2020 10:15pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Ha yeah, they said the new sub system is easier but everyone had problems with it in the beta. I posted a video here this morning where a guy shows how the new sub system works.

Seen that just haven't given it a look yet. I was hoping they would tighten it up a bit because it was one of the main things I had issues with last time around. Got to the point I was trying to avoid fighters with high sub stats as if they got u down you where ****ed ha.

stephenl15 · 06-08-2020 10:43pm

From Reddit, but make sure to explicitly close the application and not just switch off the console etc to ensure the timer doesn't stay running for ea access

stephenl15 · 06-08-2020 10:47pm

https://twitter.com/EAAccess/status/1291431639524859904?s=19

Afternoon/evening Irish time

Axwell · 06-08-2020 10:49pm

stephenl15 wrote: »

From Reddit, but make sure to explicitly close the application and not just switch off the console etc to ensure the timer doesn't stay running for ea access

Hopefully there is a glitch for the timer, previously this existed on madden and other games. It wasnt on Fifa last year but was the year before, worth keeping an eye on twitter and reddit anyways and see if anyone mentions one.

Zero-Cool · 07-08-2020 8:34am

Big patch dropped this morning, lot of changes, some absolutely brilliant like you can now skip the 'emote off' at the start. Also, it was funny how Wonderboy tweeted at EA joking about his head size and now the're fixing it.

https://www.ea.com/games/ufc/ufc-4/news/closed-beta-changes

Also, Gameplay Deep Dive release:
https://www.ea.com/games/ufc/ufc-4/news/new-gameplay-deepdive

Full Patch List:

General
Added training manual feature. Learn the controls and the meta behind submissions, striking, ground and pound, and the clinch. The training manual can be found under offline modes in main menu and game help in the pause menu
At launch UFC community tutorial videos will be added as well, these will cover deeper gameplay meta/strategy including ground game and submissions
Added skip functionality to pre-fight and post-fight emotes
Fixed an issue with lack of blood/damage when playing consecutive matches
Fixed issue causing notable ear deformation
Fixed facial animation issue affecting fighter likeness on fighter select screen and in fighter portraits
Tuned muscle definition on all fighter models
Fixed an issue with glove touch functionality

Miscellaneous updates to some UFC fighter appearances/likenesses (Not all of these will be available for the EA Access Play First Trial, some may not show until worldwide launch on August 14th). Notable changes:
Donald Cerrone – hairstyle and facial hair (beard)
Paul Felder – body proportions and facial hair (increased width/volume of upper torso)
Paulo Costa – body proportions (increased width/volume of Costa’s torso and shoulders)
Stephen Thompson – body proportions (reduced size of head)
Cody Garbrandt – updated body likeness and facial hair
Sean O’Malley – hair color
TJ Dillashaw – updated body likeness

Striking
Fixed animation issue with jab into jumping spinning body kick combo
Fixed an issue where jab feints were affecting takedowns
Improved responsiveness of combo inputs
Fixed issues with strikes not triggering if the input could also be used for a cage strike. For instance, fighters who had the cage superman punch could not perform the regular superman punch.
Fixed animation issues with spinning elbow
Fixed sprinting knee inputs

Grappling
Added player indicators to the submission HUD to identify who’s attacking and defending
Takedown denial now taxes attacker’s stamina
Depleting health in side control now leads to knee on belly
Fixed an issue where grapple assist sometimes lead to additional inputs
Fixed dead frames on the transition to knee on belly

Ground and Pound
Added HUD during ground and pound to highlight available transitions and submissions
Added ground and pound transition from half guard up to full guard for the sub fighter
Increased stamina penalty for missed strikes during ground and pound
Tuning: lowered temporary damage for most positions
Tuning: reduced vulnerability when posting to straights
Tuning: increased permanent damage

Submissions
Improved visibility of submission HUD options
Submissions have been tuned:
Decreased movement penalty for the defender.
Decreased the effect of small stamina advantages.
Decreased submission strength for most submissions - the Back Flat Rear Naked Choke was the only exception. This was done in a way that increases the contrast between the stronger and the weaker submissions.

Clinch
Sub fighter's strikes no longer interrupt cage power takedowns
Added single leg drive from knee catch position
High block no longer interrupts clinch cage takedowns
Cleaned up animations for knees in the catch teep kick position
Removed blocking of dominant fighter's body knees from single under cage. These are supposed to be countered with the wizer escape, pressing the left stick towards the opponent’s underhook, the opposite direction to the one used for the regular escape.

AI
AI can now defend cage single under body punches
Decreased the speed of harder AI response to submission prompts
AI submission skills have been tuned on various difficulties
Increased the AI’s ability to defend strikes in cage single under when hurt
Fixed an issue where the AI was unable to defend back pack position
Fixed an issue where the AI idles in cage back clinch
Added 30+ new custom AIs for roster fighters
Updated AI movement and cage awareness logic
Increased the effect of the opponent’s stats on AI gameplan
Camera
Camera adjusted during Imanari Roll

How Soon Is Now · 07-08-2020 1:41pm

They need to fix Conors head! For one the most recognised faces of the Ufc it's awful.

Zero-Cool · 07-08-2020 4:09pm

EA Access trial is live. You have to go to the ps/xbox store and search ufc 4. You will then have a download link. 7gb is a bit small though.

Axwell · 07-08-2020 4:18pm

7Gb is just the first section to be able to play, theres another 27Gb after that.

stephenl15 · 07-08-2020 6:15pm

Still downloading. Going into local lockdown here so will breeze through those 10 hours haha

Beersmith · 07-08-2020 7:21pm

How/why is DJ in the game?!

Zero-Cool · 07-08-2020 7:38pm

Beersmith wrote: »

How/why is DJ in the game?!

Probably something to do with the video game likeness in his contract. Didn't think they could still use it after they left though but maybe that's part of the contract.

Zero-Cool · 07-08-2020 8:17pm

The Jon Jones standing guillotine /choke a man to death and dump his dead body on the ground move is savage looking in this!

https://www.reddit.com/r/EASportsUFC/comments/i5jox7/thats_just_wrong_new_animation_walk_away_sub/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb

Zero-Cool · 07-08-2020 8:25pm

This is brilliant and he's not wrong. Wish they got Roxy in as well.

https://twitter.com/ThugnastyMMA/status/1291520996109946887?s=19

Axwell · 07-08-2020 11:41pm

Havent got to play yet, probably will later. Whats the verdict so far?

Zero-Cool · 08-08-2020 12:14am

Axwell wrote: »

Havent got to play yet, probably will later. Whats the verdict so far?

Spent 30 minutes making a character who turned out nothing like i wanted

still in the amateur part of career where each fight is like a tutorial against a different type of fighter. My guy is **** bit i love the new fluidity of the fight going from standup, clinch to the ground. The scrambles are great.

Playing Blitz at the moment which is great. Today's event is 5 rounds and then a finale. The rules are FW and 1 minute rounds, really quick.

Zero-Cool · 08-08-2020 12:28am

Got absolutely done by 2 decisions of fights i definitely won. Need to look at the tutorials and get some practice fights in. I'll be on again tomorrow night if anyone fancies a few scraps.

stephenl15 · 08-08-2020 12:34am

I'm in the UFC done one fight there and about 6 or 7 total. It feels way too easy, it's apparently hard difficulty but I've finished everyone in first or second round so far. Was able to upgrade to 5 star punch speed and punch power straight away.

3 hours burned through and really really enjoying it however

Zero-Cool · 08-08-2020 12:46am

stephenl15 wrote: »

I'm in the UFC done one fight there and about 6 or 7 total. It feels way too easy, it's apparently hard difficulty but I've finished everyone in first or second round so far. Was able to upgrade to 5 star punch speed and punch power straight away.

3 hours burned through and really really enjoying it however

What fight style and weight class did you go with? I just got to the fight to impress Dana against the wrestler, fight like a noob throwing everything to put him away and impress the boss. Completely blew my gas tank and couldn't finish him and got ko'd in the last 5 seconds :pac: Quit straight away, gonna run that one back and fight normally this time.

stephenl15 · 08-08-2020 12:52am

Zero-Cool wrote: »

What fight style and weight class did you go with? I just got to the fight to impress Dana against the wrestler, fight like a noob throwing everything to put him away and impress the boss. Completely blew my gas tank and couldn't finish him and got ko'd in the last 5 seconds :pac: Quit straight away, gonna run that one back and fight normally this time.

Went LW and boxer. You?

Yeah I went to contender series but didn't get the UFC offer first time around. You need to finish in the first round to get it guaranteed and I finished in the 2nd.

A couple of wins in the WFA and I was back on the contender series and got UFC call up after that.

I feel like it's easy to break their block and then after that the punches cause a lot of damage. Also I haven't found many of them trying to take the fight to the ground which was strange as that's my weakness.

Haven't done online yet so that's a different kettle of fish altogether.

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