The Last Dance (Netflix)

It absolutely is entertaining but it's little more than a Michael Jordan advert/propaganda piece.

This week's episode was basically a 20 minute Nike Air Jordan advert at the beginning (which worked on me because I seriously want a pair!).

You can't question the quality of a good ESPN documentary. I've had little to no interest in the NBA from a sporting perspective (probably because of lack of access to it during these golden years) but it clearly had such a cultural effect because a lot of this is familiar to me.

It's great having all this footage available, loved the dream team practice game segment.

Wuff Wuff wrote: »

There's a good espn documentary on that pistons team called bad boys or bad boy pistons

Free 7 day trial on the espn player too, some good stuff on it

I was looking for this too. It's on BT sport this Saturday afternoon as well.

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

I'm not sure how I watched the NBA back then

Yeah I was trying to remember how I watched it, was there a highlights show on Channel 4 or something a bit like Football Italia?

Macdarack wrote:

How have you Watched 8 episodes?

They were all leaked last week I think

extra gravy wrote: »

Yeah I was trying to remember how I watched it, was there a highlights show on Channel 4 or something a bit like Football Italia?

I was thinking ITV but I don't think they had coverage til later in the 90s.

Some of it would have been on Trans World Sport anyway (used to love that show as well...bit of everything).

4 episodes in and you get an insight into just why Phil Jackson was such a great coach. Not just the whole team approach but being able to manage someone like Rodman to get the best out of him

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Watched up to episode 8. Love it but can't help feel it was blowing a lot of smoke up its own arse. Claiming Jordan was the most famous man on earth. Very American centric. Can't help but thinking, "its just basketball". Did anyone care in Ireland? I tried to watch one of the games on YouTube and it bored me to tears.

Basketball was never played in out school until Jordan and the Bulls. Then it took off where there were competitions.

And the Jumpman logo became a big thing.

He transcended sport. Maybe he wasn't the most famous man on earth but I think he was up there.

Jordan was supposed to be an asshole in real life, and the doc def shows that. He ment to be a bad gambler and a prick when comes to losing .

Just finished the Rodman episode last night. Pistons looked like they were playing a different sport - so brutal and physical! Felt like the episode just ended at a strange point though. Seemed like there was more to cover, but maybe future episodes will uncover more.

Gotta feel for Scottie Pippen in a way - locking himself into such a long contract to guarantee himself payment (which it seems was very necessary with a large family to look out for), but then becoming one of the best players in the league and putting in incredible performances.

Krauss getting the plaudits he so desperately wanted - but also acknowledging that he caused a lot of problems. Did well to piece together the team and some shrewd moves, but the need to be recognised looks like it got the better of him.

Really enjoying it so far.

I loved the bulls and their rise and success. I used to get updated from relatives in US but watched it on C4 real late at night , when I was a teen. It was hard to put into words how good Jordan was and how great the partnership with Pippin was, Rodman was class and so wild. Phil the coach just seemed to bring it all together.
On Jordan , should anyone be surprised with his self belief and high standards, you often see same traits in those that dominate their sports. You also see people trying to knock them from their pedestal.

ollkiller wrote: »

He is a prick when it comes to losing. I'm ok with that. His drive to succeed is blatantly apparent.

This.

I am more than willing to accept someone that hates losing so much that they turn into a d**k when it happens especially in team sports it drives others to be better.

I'm only watching them as they come onto netflix but I've found the series very enjoyable so far. I feel like Jordan learnt alot from the first play off loss to the pistons and knew the team had to grow some steel in order to win a championship and took it upon himself to make sure every player had that steel by being a hard ass. You can see how much he strived to be held in the same category as magic and Larry bird. And to take a quote from floyd Mayweather 'it ain't cocky if your backing it up' believe in your own ability and strive to be the best.

Heart has to go out to pippin the organisation may have sensed the desperation to get paid and just rail roaded him. Rodman just seems like a rogue canon but they got him to believe in the team and he gave it his all every time.

And jackson deserves the huge respect he gets 11 championships granted he had star players in mj and Kobe but he obviously had the knack of managing big egos and getting the best out of them.

Jordan was definitely up there with the biggest sport stars in the world Paris is hardly a hotbed for basketball and look at the reaction he got there and all over the world

The real mccoy 91 wrote: »

Heart has to go out to pippin the organisation may have sensed the desperation to get paid and just rail roaded him

It was made even worse by the fact that he accepted it because he wanted to be able to look after his family.

Such a different time.

I was amused by the suits too, fashion really is an odd beast, today's cool is tomorrow's cringe.

I only found out this morning that when Jordan left the bulls, Pippen & the lads won the championship again without him. Pippen had a phenomenal year by all accounts.

It’s interesting that Jordan couldn’t win without Pippen & Phil Jackson, but they didn’t need him to win.