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Scrambler bikes

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭guyfo


    How many of your actual motorsport enthusiasts you're protecting heard the ad and decided to give up the sport?

    None, all sports need new competitors to survive, mommy and daddy who aren't really that into Motorsport being told that they are irresponsible if they buy their bike mad child the scrambler they want is the issue. Again tarring everyone with the same brush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭guyfo


    I would say yeah ...

    Wow, some piece of **** you are...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Where’s an appropriate place to drive a scrambler for a young fella from an inner city with no land.
    Are you suggesting that the parents buy a trailer to ship the bike around on aswell.

    Well maybe ,maybe ,if there's no where handy to safely ride an off road motorbike then maybe the kids shouldn't be given scramblers...

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Water charge protestors are very likely to buy their kids scramblers for use in housing estates.
    There's a homeless crisis largely due to these wasters who were housed in the past largely at the state's expense..... Discuss ��


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,576 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    There's a small green area out the back of my house ,it's a pain when someone gets a scrambler and decides to tare around and around ,can't use the back garden , one of them cocked up last summer and managed to go head first into the garden wall, obviously no helmets , the noise chilled out a bit after ,( but not what you want really )

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    guyfo wrote: »
    Yes, but the propaganda I've head on the radio leading up to Xmas didn't mention that. Scramblers are bad, don't buy your kids one was the jist of it. Not only buy your kid a scrambler if you are willing to put in the effort, and weekends spent away at race tracks!

    What's your point?

    Clearly these actions and messages are not aimed at such people who are active in organised Motorsports.

    They are aimed at those lawless fools in estates buying these for their children to run amoc within those estates wherever they can find a bit of room.

    Knock off the ridiculous indignation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 485 ✭✭guyfo


    lawred2 wrote: »
    What's your point?

    Seriously? It puts off prospective new competitors.... Come on lad your not that thick


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,303 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    guyfo wrote: »
    The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in racing. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

    If they are using them in a housing estate then yes they should be punished, that is if it anything other than taking the bike for a quick first spin. Plenty of appropriate places to use them.
    Nothing to do with motorsport. It's the gobsh1te parents who let their kids tear around public spaces usually in inappropriate attire and pose a risk to those around rhem.
    Expect to see more cases like whilst some cretins defend the behaviour...
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/sunbather-critically-hurt-after-scrambler-bike-lands-on-head-1.3526552


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,478 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    pablo128 wrote: »
    I just saw the first jackass of the day outside. 2 stroke scrambler being wheelied up the road and your man in a t shirt and no helmet.

    Jesus,If he only got it today, he's a quick learner :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    blade1 wrote: »
    Jesus,If he only got it today, he's a quick learner :eek:

    Honestly by the cut of him I'd say it was the father showing off to the kid. This wasn't up the back of an estate either. Out on a main road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,158 ✭✭✭frag420



    They should be confiscated and crushed.

    And what should they do with the bikes?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,314 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    The scrambler this morning is a boy of I would guess about 10 and his little sister holding onto him I'd say roughly 8yo roaring up a busy road with no helmets...I don't know if I would classify them as motocross fans...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    pablo128 wrote: »
    Honestly by the cut of him I'd say it was the father showing off to the kid. This wasn't up the back of an estate either. Out on a main road.

    Did he hold it for long?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    As an adult, they're something on which you hope the little rats break their necks but you'd have secretly loved to run amok on one as a kid.

    Natural order of things really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    Yer al jus jelous ye dint gt 1 as baby goats.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    aaakev wrote: »
    Did he hold it for long?

    No, just clutched it up in 2nd for a couple of seconds. Nothing impressive to me anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    As an adult, they're something on which you hope the little rats break their necks but you'd have secretly loved to run amok on one as a kid.

    Natural order of things really.

    I'd have loved one as a child. As would a lot of us posting today. But the children are not buying them themselves, the parents, who should know better, are going out and buying them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    How much do these things cost? Can't be cheap and yet it's always those who claim to be most deprived most likely to have them.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nice to see the dole being spent on more then cans & paddypower roulette and bingo though 🎄


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    guyfo wrote: »
    Seriously? It puts off prospective new competitors.... Come on lad your not that thick

    Interesting line of reasoning..

    Sure why not encourage the next generation of rally drivers to take to the road at 12 years old then!?

    Easy to get your hands on a banger for three figures.. possibly cheaper than a scrambler.

    Let em at. As you say putting an end to it would be an direct attack on Motorsport.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    I saw 3 lads about 10 or 11 doing about 50kmh on one (no helmets obviously) on Ballybough Rd a while back-going past the makeshift memorial to some 18 year old who killed himself on Christmas Day with his brand new scrambler.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 118 ✭✭Tippsman


    eviltwin wrote: »
    How much do these things cost? Can't be cheap and yet it's always those who claim to be most deprived most likely to have them.

    Cheap
    https://m.alibaba.com/amp/product/60743189535.html
    Expensive
    https://www.donedeal.ie/motorbikes-for-sale/yz-125-scrambler/23641754

    E100 to E2000

    Depends on child's age height and driving ability, as to type and quality to get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Haven’t heard a single one around here yet this year.

    Maybe all the little bollixes were naughty this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    Definitely quieter this year, but still, the Gardai and local Councillors/TD's know about this, they know what happens on christmas with scramblers, and still no plan was put in place, one of the little scrotebags was killed recently after colliding with a vehicle, can only hope the bodycount mounts for them going forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    In limerick for Xmas and met a gang of people on scramblers and quads cutting across O’Connell St going the wrong way down one way streets. Lovely sight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,156 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    can only hope the bodycount mounts for them going forward.

    What a scummy, scummy scumbag thing to say.

    I'd actually prefer a country populated by scrotes driving illegally on scramblers than the likes of people who make statements wishing for the deaths of children.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    What a scummy, scummy scumbag thing to say.

    I'd actually prefer a country populated by scrotes driving illegally on scramblers than the likes of people who make statements wishing for the deaths of children.


    You don't have to live in these areas, these "children" are feral, not much better than animals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,156 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    You don't have to live in these areas, these "children" are feral, not much better than animals.

    You have no idea where I live.

    People with attitudes like yours are the lowest we have in society.

    Thankfully, it is mostly confined to online edgelords who would never air these childish, moronic ideas in public - except to their childish, moronic friends, assuming they have any.


  • Registered Users Posts: 111 ✭✭celticWario


    You have no idea where I live.

    People with attitudes like yours are the lowest we have in society.

    Thankfully, it is mostly confined to online edgelords who would never air these childish, moronic ideas in public - except to their childish, moronic friends, assuming they have any.


    I work, I pay taxes, I follow the laws of this country, you either have a horse in this race, or you're just detached from the reality of the culture that surrounds these scumbags, either way I've said my piece, your opinion counts little or nothing to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,400 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    I work, I pay taxes, I follow the laws of this country, you either have a horse in this race, or you're just detached from the reality of the culture that surrounds these scumbags, either way I've said my piece, your opinion counts little or nothing to me.

    Your logic is nonsense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,105 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    guyfo wrote: »
    If the OP has a problem with scumbags in housing estates then fine, but that ain't the title of this thread. I'm absolutely sick of the media reporting on this telling parents not to buy scramblers at all, no distinction made between joyriders and competitors, it's disgraceful.

    The same people wouldn't put out a campaign telling parents not to start their kids boxing because a few kids fight in public would they? Double standards...

    If you wanted to start your child off in motorsports I don't think Christmas would hold you back.

    This has nothing to do with motorsports at all. Its edgits buying unsuitable presents for their kids.

    Nothing more.


    Dont make it out as an attack against motorsports because that's horse ****e.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    I know a few farmers kids who have them and tip around their land on them.theyre actually practical on a farm.v handy for checking stock.
    The idea of inner city youth owning them and driving them on estates is fcukin ridiculous

    A lot of those quads are neither taxed nor insured. There's one on our road that goes up and down once a day when there's stock there. I've never heard of a cop pulling one up, likely because they're away from populated areas and they don't make nuisances of themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,156 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    I work, I pay taxes, I follow the laws of this country, you either have a horse in this race, or you're just detached from the reality of the culture that surrounds these scumbags, either way I've said my piece, your opinion counts little or nothing to me.

    Oooh edgy mac edgeface pays taxes!
    Let's put him in charge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 542 ✭✭✭Etc


    Better them killing themselves than anyone else, parents allowing them to ride on streets or fields/parks are instilling the message that the law doesn't matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,156 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Etc wrote: »
    Better them killing themselves than anyone else, parents allowing them to ride on streets or fields/parks are instilling the message that the law doesn't matter.

    Don't you think that the best outcome is that no one is killed?
    Or is that just bleeding heart liberal nonsense?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭scamalert


    Etc wrote: »
    Better them killing themselves than anyone else, parents allowing them to ride on streets or fields/parks are instilling the message that the law doesn't matter.
    Ive no issue, but article clearly states social estates, if parents in those estates think its alright to let their underage kids risk their and other lives its not ok in any way or form.


    someone who buys it for their kid that either have good plot of land or actually going to places where they can be ridden -not streets or parks then dont see an issue training youngsters from early age.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 771 ✭✭✭HappyAsLarE


    Natural selection, innit.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,914 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    At least the kids around Weston have helmets on this year. The Childers Road looked like a scene out of the Biker Mice From Mars earlier.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What a scummy, scummy scumbag thing to say.


    He's right, though.


    There's a scrambler or two in my area. I'm always hoping for the day I hear of a fatal accident involving it. I won't feign sadness or sympathy - I'd be delighted - as would many hundreds of others that live in my area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Better they kill themselves than crush innocent people like what happened to that poor man in Darndale. I've seen them flying up and down Amiens st, in what other capital city in the civilised world would you see feral kids flying around the city centre on illegal scramblers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    I'll just post this up again for some context as to what we're dealing with here.
    https://imgur.com/a/1x9dH40

    I doubt if any one of them knows who Marc Marquez is.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Better they kill themselves than crush innocent people like what happened to that poor man in Darndale. I've seen them flying up and down Amiens st, in what other capital city in the civilised world would you see feral kids flying around the city centre on illegal scramblers?




    See this is my issue. It's actually not unheard of to see other cities completely taken over by them. UK Police deal with it a bit, I believe, and it appears across the US from time to time, too.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJet7JKrc0g



    We're on the path to that over here, but no one is addressing it. It's infuriating. I don't see why they can't just make them illegal unless you have a specific license to own one (ie; a farmer can own one).


    I mean, there are certifications required and logs kept of who can supply certain weedkillers, and who they sell them to, and joe soap can't just wander into a shop and buy X weedkiller... yet anyone can just randomly pick up a completely illegal high powered motorbike, willy nilly.


    Do they even have log books?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I'd love an auld scrambler. Where do I get one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,156 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Better they kill themselves than crush innocent people like what happened to that poor man in Darndale. I've seen them flying up and down Amiens st, in what other capital city in the civilised world would you see feral kids flying around the city centre on illegal scramblers?

    Why does it have to be either or?

    I can't believe the vile, inhumane filth coming out here.
    It seems people see a 10 year old child driving illegally on a bike and actually hopes said child kills themselves.
    I Fcuking hate you people - you are the scum if that's what you think.

    And before you all start jumping up and down with facts, I have not once defended the illegal use of scramblers by anyone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    See this is my issue. It's actually not unheard of to see other cities completely taken over by them. UK Police deal with it a bit, I believe, and it appears across the US from time to time, too.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJet7JKrc0g



    We're on the path to that over here, but no one is addressing it. It's infuriating. I don't see why they can't just make them illegal unless you have a specific license to own one (ie; a farmer can own one).


    I mean, there are certifications required and logs kept of who can supply certain weedkillers, and who they sell them to, and joe soap can't just wander into a shop and buy X weedkiller... yet anyone can just randomly pick up a completely illegal high powered motorbike, willy nilly.


    Do they even have log books?
    They would buy a legal bike and drove it illegally.
    In fact, some of them already do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭bmc58


    I got one for the young lad. He was absolutely thrilled. You should have seen his face. Delighted so he was.

    He's 13 so plenty old enough. I was driving tractors before that age.

    As a doting and caring parent I assume you're young lad has a provisional licence and insurance.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pablo128 wrote: »
    They would buy a legal bike and drove it illegally.
    In fact, some of them already do.


    As I said - if they were electric bikes and didn't make any noise, nobody would care. It's the noise that irks people more than anything else in my opinion.


    Those electric scooters are able to do serious enough speeds. A belt of one of them wouldn't be much fun. But no one cares about them and they're seen as the future, because they're not annoying people on them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,478 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Why does it have to be either or?

    I can't believe the vile, inhumane filth coming out here.
    It seems people see a 10 year old child driving illegally on a bike and actually hopes said child kills themselves.
    I Fcuking hate you people - you are the scum if that's what you think.

    And before you all start jumping up and down with facts, I have not once defended the illegal use of scramblers by anyone.

    I don't think anyone actually wants these kids to die, but the types of people who buy their kids scramblers aren't exactly held in high regard or very endearing to civilised people, so go and take some deep breaths and realise you're reading a discussion forum on the internet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,219 ✭✭✭pablo128


    bmc58 wrote: »
    As a doting and caring parent I assume you're young lad has a provisional licence and insurance.

    Not needed on private land. I'm assuming Patrick has a bit of land though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    https://youtu.be/K1Sre8iS1XU

    Gardai need to take lead out of the British polices handbook. Ram the fcukers.,


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