Scrambler bikes

gmisk · 25-12-2019 10:14am #1

Are parents buying these in order to get rid of their kids?
Is George Soros behind it!!

Initially I was like holy crap next door are cutting the grass very early!

Seth Brundle · 25-12-2019 10:16am

The gardai are hoping to cut down on the numbers of parents killing their children this Christmas...
https://www.thejournal.ie/scrambler-crackdown-4886990-Dec2019/
Report them if the kid takes the scrambler out!

Insect Overlord · 25-12-2019 10:21am

The estates on the south side of Limerick City have been reverberating to a veritable orchestra of scrambler engines over the last 20 minutes.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 10:25am

Seth Brundle wrote: »

The gardai are hoping to cut down on the numbers of parents killing their children this Christmas...
https://www.thejournal.ie/scrambler-crackdown-4886990-Dec2019/
Report them if the kid takes the scrambler out!

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in racing. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

If they are using them in a housing estate then yes they should be punished, that is if it anything other than taking the bike for a quick first spin. Plenty of appropriate places to use them.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 25-12-2019 10:27am

I got one for the young lad. He was absolutely thrilled. You should have seen his face. Delighted so he was.

He's 13 so plenty old enough. I was driving tractors before that age.

Collie D · 25-12-2019 10:28am

guyfo wrote: »

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in sport. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

That’s all well and good if done in a safe environment but I’m guessing that’s not what the OP is about.

Kids who take up karate or boxing aren’t just left to their own devices and told to go at each other.

EDIT: I see you edited as I was posting

Have a good one.

frag420 · 25-12-2019 10:30am

guyfo wrote: »

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in sport. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

Hmmmm, a feral kid in an estate speeding about one a powerful scrambler bike is no more dangerous than a kid playing GAA or doing Karate?

Tell me, how many hours training per week do those feral kids on bikes do so that they are competent to ride the bike before they get the bike and after they get it?

They are not motorsport enthusiasts in the slightest, they wouldn’t know a Joey Dunlop from a Shumacher even if you had them standing beside their respective vehicles!

*edited while I was posting, point still stands though Re feral kids in estates with bikes!!

Insect Overlord · 25-12-2019 10:32am

frag420 wrote: »

They are not motorsport enthusiasts in the slightest, they wouldn’t know a Joey Dunlop from a Shumacher even if you had them standing beside their respective vehicles!

They're all utterly obsessed with Lamborghinis these days. It must have been born out of a meme or online gaming.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 10:33am

Collie D wrote: »

That’s all well and good if done in a safe environment but I’m guessing that’s not what the OP is about.

Kids who take up karate or boxing aren’t just left to their own devices and told to go at each other.

If the OP has a problem with scumbags in housing estates then fine, but that ain't the title of this thread. I'm absolutely sick of the media reporting on this telling parents not to buy scramblers at all, no distinction made between joyriders and competitors, it's disgraceful.

The same people wouldn't put out a campaign telling parents not to start their kids boxing because a few kids fight in public would they? Double standards...

pablo128 · 25-12-2019 10:37am

guyfo wrote: »

If the OP has a problem with scumbags in housing estates then fine, but that ain't the title of this thread. I'm absolutely sick of the media reporting on this telling parents not to buy scramblers at all, no distinction made between joyriders and competitors, it's disgraceful.

The same people wouldn't put out a campaign telling parents not to start their kids boxing because a few kids fight in public would they? Double standards...

Is there many scrambler tracks in or around Dublin?

Optimalprimerib · 25-12-2019 10:38am

There is a very good facility close to my estate for scramblers, and it's only occasionally that you see them on the road.

That been said, that is usually with one wheel on the road and attempting jumps over the speed bumps.

Atlantic Dawn · 25-12-2019 10:38am

pablo128 wrote: »

Is there many scrambler tracks in or around Dublin?

There's one in East Wall.

mondeo · 25-12-2019 10:43am

I've seen unregistered scramblers on the road many times. Saw Gardai in Rathfarnham trying to catch a few of them a few months back. There is a green colored one going around the area and he will eventually get caught.. When he does I hope they pin the beggar to the wall.

KaneToad · 25-12-2019 10:50am

guyfo wrote: »

If they are using them in a housing estate then yes they should be punished, that is if it anything other than taking the bike for a quick first spin. Plenty of appropriate places to use them.

Quick first spin in the housing estate is not appropriate. Whatever you might think..

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teen-killed-in-christmas-day-motorbike-accident-seen-doing-wheelies-seconds-before-accident-inquest-hears-31113676.html

guyfo · 25-12-2019 10:51am

pablo128 wrote: »

Is there many scrambler tracks in or around Dublin?

2 within the confines of the city, another 4 within an hour's drive of the M50

For mini bikes and race karts there are also 3 sealed surface tracks within 45 minutes of the city, Mondello, WhiteRiver Park and Athboy.

Atlantic Dawn · 25-12-2019 10:53am

Who do they sue when they fall off at one of these tracks, is it the local council?

guyfo · 25-12-2019 10:59am

KaneToad wrote: »

Quick first spin in the housing estate is not appropriate. Whatever you might think..

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teen-killed-in-christmas-day-motorbike-accident-seen-doing-wheelies-seconds-before-accident-inquest-hears-31113676.html

By quick spin I wasn't talking about speed, a gob****e like that was asking for an accident. A responsible adult could let the child out on the bike for a few minutes of supervised slow speed running early in the morning while keeping watch for any dangers. (Probably less suited to a kart)

Plenty of Xmas tests and races on to have the first proper run out within days of getting the bike or kart. For instance the track I work for has 4 hours of race kart testing on the 27th, a full day of testing on the 28th and the annual Xmas race on the 29th which also has rookie classes. Kids could get the kart and have hours of seat time in before the year is out.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:00am

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Who do they sue when they fall off at one of these tracks, is it the local council?

You can't sue someone because you fell of your own bike.... How would that work?

Bobblehats · 25-12-2019 11:07am

Ah jaysus headwrecker. Glad I don’t live on one of them ‘vibrant’ young estates where even the grandparents are effectively kids

Doctors room ghost · 25-12-2019 11:08am

guyfo wrote: »

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in racing. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

If they are using them in a housing estate then yes they should be punished, that is if it anything other than taking the bike for a quick first spin. Plenty of appropriate places to use them.

Where’s an appropriate place to drive a scrambler for a young fella from an inner city with no land.
Are you suggesting that the parents buy a trailer to ship the bike around on aswell.

Wanderer78 · 25-12-2019 11:11am

guyfo wrote:

By quick spin I wasn't talking about speed, a gob****e like that was asking for an accident. A responsible adult could let the child out on the bike for a few minutes of supervised slow speed running early in the morning while keeping watch for any dangers. (Probably less suited to a kart)

I think we should expand this to other vehicles such as cars, I can't foresee any issues with it

Doctors room ghost · 25-12-2019 11:11am

guyfo wrote: »

If the OP has a problem with scumbags in housing estates then fine, but that ain't the title of this thread. I'm absolutely sick of the media reporting on this telling parents not to buy scramblers at all, no distinction made between joyriders and competitors, it's disgraceful.

The same people wouldn't put out a campaign telling parents not to start their kids boxing because a few kids fight in public would they? Double standards...

I’d have absolutely no problem with someone buying a scrambler if they owned land for to use it on and not the green area of a housing estate annoying neighbors and endangering people

Collie D · 25-12-2019 11:11am

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Where’s an appropriate place to drive a scrambler for a young fella from an inner city with no land.
Are you suggesting that the parents buy a trailer to ship the bike around on aswell.

Yes.

If you live in a city with no access to land to scramble get the kids a mountain bike or a PlayStation.

25-12-2019 11:11am

guyfo wrote: »

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues...

Motor sport enthusiast? :rolleyes: Did you ever hear such sh/te.

They're scumbags. If they weren't acting the jock on these yokes and tormenting everyone in a 500meter radius with the noise, then no one would care about them.

An enthusiast doesn't fly down footpaths in housing estates. They go where they should be used. People don't dislike scramblers because they've nothing else to dislike. It's a present that a scumbag gets on christmas. I've yet to meet someone that got a scrambler for christmas whose family i wouldn't class as wasters.

pablo128 · 25-12-2019 11:13am

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Where’s an appropriate place to drive a scrambler for a young fella from an inner city with no land.
Are you suggesting that the parents buy a trailer to ship the bike around on aswell.

Well that would be the correct thing to do. Or have the use of a van.

Not the local park or football pitch, or the public road

Doctors room ghost · 25-12-2019 11:15am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Motor sport enthusiast? :rolleyes: Did you ever hear such sh/te.

They're scumbags. If they weren't acting the jock on these yokes and tormenting everyone in a 500meter radius with the noise, then no one would care about them.

An enthusiast doesn't fly down footpaths in housing estates. They go where they should be used. People don't dislike scramblers because they've nothing else to dislike. It's a present that a scumbag gets on christmas. I've yet to meet someone that got a scrambler for christmas whose family i wouldn't class as wasters.

I know a few farmers kids who have them and tip around their land on them.theyre actually practical on a farm.v handy for checking stock.
The idea of inner city youth owning them and driving them on estates is fcukin ridiculous

Doctors room ghost · 25-12-2019 11:18am

There will be a heap of them scrapped by next week anyway. The majority are cheap Chinese sh1te boxes that you can’t buy spares for.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:21am

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Where’s an appropriate place to drive a scrambler for a young fella from an inner city with no land.
Are you suggesting that the parents buy a trailer to ship the bike around on aswell.

That would be the Motocross track in East wall... And my point is that not everyone is the type of gobheen that terrorises the local park or takes their bike out on the road for the craic. Responsible ownership should be encouraged.

25-12-2019 11:22am

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

I know a few farmers kids who have them and tip around their land on them.theyre actually practical on a farm.v handy for checking stock.
The idea of inner city youth owning them and driving them on estates is fcukin ridiculous

In fairness, that's a different thing altogether. I've often seen Farmers on public roads on their Quads and I never felt the need to ring the Gardai to report them.

Farmers have a legitimate need and use for them, and they tend not to act like muppets. For all the bashing the farmers get lately, they're generally decent, good-natured people.

Scumbags in estates are the problem. If the scramblers were electric, and didn't make any noise, no one would care about them. It's the noise that wrecks people's heads for the most part.

Fr_Dougal · 25-12-2019 11:23am

bcklschaps wrote: »

Let them ride, baby.... let them ride. Next time you get close to one of these little cretins. Pin an Organ Donor card on him ;-)

Always a silver lining etc.

The thing is that they can injure other people, other than that I’d agree with you.

And sure when they go out joyriding and die it’s all ‘he had a hart of golde, wit de angles now’ and ‘why did the pigs chase him, brutality, dey should b afta reel ciriminals who bankruptted de country’.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:23am

Collie D wrote: »

Yes.

If you live in a city with no access to land to scramble get the kids a mountain bike or a PlayStation.

Not necessarily, no matter where you live there will be somewhere within reasonable driving distance to take the bike out for a rip in a controlled environment.

pablo128 · 25-12-2019 11:24am

I just saw the first jackass of the day outside. 2 stroke scrambler being wheelied up the road and your man in a t shirt and no helmet.

whisky_galore · 25-12-2019 11:25am

guyfo wrote: »

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in racing. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

If they are using them in a housing estate then yes they should be punished, that is if it anything other than taking the bike for a quick first spin. Plenty of appropriate places to use them.

Shur what harm that they do their quick first spin on a public road, no tax, no insurance, no licence?

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:28am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I've yet to meet someone that got a scrambler for christmas whose family i wouldn't class as wasters.

Pretty sure you just proved my original point about Motorsport enthusiasts being tarred with the same brush as the scum that terrorise people in public areas there...

As I said plenty of suitable places to ride across the country, I know plenty of lads that lived in housing estates as kids whose parents took them out to me tracks to ride at weekend. Responsible ownership is fine.

Tippsman · 25-12-2019 11:30am

It isn't Christmas morning without the smell of a 2 stroke.

Vroom vroom.

Guy:Incognito · 25-12-2019 11:30am

guyfo wrote: »

The fight against the Motorsport enthusiast continues.... Don't tar everyone with the same brush, plenty of responsible parents buying their kids bikes, or karts, to start them off in racing. It's no more dangerous than contact sports.

If they are using them in a housing estate then yes they should be punished, that is if it anything other than taking the bike for a quick first spin. Plenty of appropriate places to use them.

If they weren't using them in housing estates then people wouldnt know they had them for the most part and this thread wouldnt exist. So let's make the assumption they are using them in housing estates.

They should be confiscated and crushed. People are idiots.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:32am

pablo128 wrote: »

Well that would be the correct thing to do. Or have the use of a van.

You don't even need a van, a lot of competitors on pitbikes that show up at the circuit I work for turn up with them he boot of a people carrier, and I've seen karts strapped to the roof of everything from a hatchback to a Porsche 944.

pablo128 · 25-12-2019 11:33am

Imagine handing your child 1500 in cash and they go out in the street and a Garda takes every euro off them and they will never see it again, with no comeback.

No different to handing them a scrambler and letting them out on the roads.

JuanBerrosa · 25-12-2019 11:34am

It's a great indicator of people to avoid to be fair, if I see a kid on a scrambler bike I immediately know his parents are moronic inbreds.

LirW · 25-12-2019 11:39am

8 y/o girl in my estate got one, dad is quite into motor sports. I wouldn't really care but it drives me demented that he doesn't take her to a track but she's riding up and down the hill on the green and the road where all the other kids play. It's so loud and it stinks.
No problem with kids in unusual sports but why in an estate where others play too?

Guy:Incognito · 25-12-2019 11:39am

guyfo wrote: »

Not necessarily, no matter where you live there will be somewhere within reasonable driving distance to take the bike out for a rip in a controlled environment.

And of course these responsible people transport the bikes to said place properly and dont ride them on the roads with no tax, insurance or safety gear.........

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:41am

LirW wrote: »

8 y/o girl in my estate got one, dad is quite into motor sports. I wouldn't really care but it drives me demented that he doesn't take her to a track but she's riding up and down the hill on the green and the road where all the other kids play. It's so loud and it stinks.
No problem with kids in unusual sports but why in an estate where others play too?

That's ridiculous, there are classes for that age group in racing, no excuse to be doing stuff like that.

pablo128 · 25-12-2019 11:43am

LirW wrote: »

8 y/o girl in my estate got one, dad is quite into motor sports. I wouldn't really care but it drives me demented that he doesn't take her to a track but she's riding up and down the hill on the green and the road where all the other kids play. It's so loud and it stinks.
No problem with kids in unusual sports but why in an estate where others play too?

Ring the Gardai before another child is hurt by her.

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:46am

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

And of course these responsible people transport the bikes to said place properly and dont ride them on the roads with no tax, insurance or safety gear.........

Yes, but the propaganda I've head on the radio leading up to Xmas didn't mention that. Scramblers are bad, don't buy your kids one was the jist of it. Not only buy your kid a scrambler if you are willing to put in the effort, and weekends spent away at race tracks!

whisky_galore · 25-12-2019 11:46am

LirW wrote: »

8 y/o girl in my estate got one, dad is quite into motor sports. I wouldn't really care but it drives me demented that he doesn't take her to a track but she's riding up and down the hill on the green and the road where all the other kids play. It's so loud and it stinks.
No problem with kids in unusual sports but why in an estate where others play too?

It's all fun and games until one of them gets a slap of a bike or she breaks her neck.

Guy:Incognito · 25-12-2019 11:47am

guyfo wrote: »

Yes, but the propaganda I've head on the radio leading up to Xmas didn't mention that. Scramblers are bad, don't buy your kids one was the jist of it. Not only buy your kid a scrambler if you are willing to put in the effort, and weekends spent away at race tracks!

It's clearly aimed at a certain demographic.

How many of your actual motorsport enthusiasts you're protecting heard the ad and decided to give up the sport?

guyfo · 25-12-2019 11:53am

JuanBerrosa wrote: »

It's a great indicator of people to avoid to be fair, if I see a kid on a scrambler bike I immediately know his parents are moronic inbreds.

So these lads are all just scum are they?

https://images.app.goo.gl/85iegpadcuspJjsp8

lawred2 · 25-12-2019 11:57am

gmisk wrote: »

Are parents buying these in order to get rid of their kids?
Is George Soros behind it!!

Initially I was like holy crap next door are cutting the grass very early!

Scrambler free around here. But then not too many sink estates around here either.

JuanBerrosa · 25-12-2019 11:57am

LirW wrote: »

8 y/o girl in my estate got one, dad is quite into motor sports. I wouldn't really care but it drives me demented that he doesn't take her to a track but she's riding up and down the hill on the green and the road where all the other kids play. It's so loud and it stinks.
No problem with kids in unusual sports but why in an estate where others play too?

At least you know immediately that they are a family of knackers.

Bobblehats · 25-12-2019 11:58am

guyfo wrote: »

So these lads are all just scum are they?

https://images.app.goo.gl/85iegpadcuspJjsp8

Tea cosy won’t save his skull

JuanBerrosa · 25-12-2019 11:58am

guyfo wrote: »

So these lads are all just scum are they?

https://images.app.goo.gl/85iegpadcuspJjsp8

I would say yeah ...

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