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August 2015 Boards forecast contest

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  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Only 2.2 mm giving 37.8 total.
    Jpmarn closest at 38.0!


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Valentia only increased by 2.2 mm on the 4th, to a grand total of 37.8 mm, and no other station caught up to that total, so the closest in each category are:

    Rainfall -- (1) Jpmarn, 38.0 ; ... (2) Mrskinner and Johnmac both at 39.0.

    Max gust -- (1) Rameire 54 knots; ... (2) jd and waterways both at 55 knots.

    I would say jd and then Johnmac had perhaps the closest combined forecasts. It is not taking long today to make up any deficits however. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I overlooked the chance to look up the first seven days of this month on the Ag Report but after checking some other data, these are the numbers so far:

    IMT stands at 13.8 C

    MAX probably no contenders yet.

    MIN 3.8 at Markree.

    PRC is about 150%.

    SUN is around 85% of normal.


  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Tae laidir


    Oak Park 21.7 yesterday to be beaten today?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Tae laidir wrote: »
    Oak Park 21.7 yesterday to be beaten today?

    That's the highest so far in August at any official station?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭John mac


    17:00 from OAK PARK 22


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭pauldry


    John mac wrote: »
    17:00 from OAK PARK 22

    Oak Park 23c

    Might be beaten next week on the usual midweek days that any warm weather comes

    Sligo still didnt make our 4th 20c of Summer. Only 19.1c


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    IMT now 13.8

    PRC now. 89%

    Week only 28%

    Sun now 104%

    Max 23.0, min 3.5

    Update for 8-15.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭pauldry


    New max today

    Around the 24c in pheonix park


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,111 ✭✭✭John mac


    23.7 I think they said on the weather.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    Well Holy God :eek:

    As things stand one has got the monthly high to within 0.1C and the monthly low spot on.

    One's excitement can hardly be contained !


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Phoenix Park got to 24.2c yesterday according to...http://www.met.ie/latest/yesterday.asp


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Phoenix Park got to 24.2c yesterday according to...http://www.met.ie/latest/yesterday.asp

    One's excitement has now completely evaporated....:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Updated values after 15-22 Aug.

    IMT now 14.3 (week 15.4)

    PRC now 84% (week 72%) -- this will surge higher by mid-week.

    SUN at 97% after a week that averaged 84%.

    MAX now 24.2, MIN still 3.5


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,903 ✭✭✭pauldry


    One thing I struggle with in boards forecast contest is how the sunshine and rainfall percentages are calculated.

    Is it the IMT stations or more and if so which ones

    Id say rain is really high at knock this month. Are they counted ? If so rain 150percent if not rain 120percent


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    No, until recently the Monthly Summary had a table of percentages for eleven stations, this was changed last month and I may take advantage of that starting with the 2016 contests to include more or even all stations, but for this year, the eleven stations that are used include:

    Ballyhaise, Belmullet, Carlow (Oak Park), Casement, Claremorris, Cork, Johnstown Castle, Malin Head, Mullingar, Shannon, Valentia

    Meanwhile, the Monthly Summary used to list six stations (Belmullet, Casement, Dublin, Cork, Shannon, Valentia) in a table of sunshine percentages but they changed that also in June to a table of all eight which includes Knock and Malin Head, but without percentages. I now have to rely on the weekly Agriculture Summary values to get a handle on percentages. The Monthly Summary gives me a bit of information by listing the high and low percentages in their discussion. I made a note at mid-month of the average normal daily values (they ranged from 4.5 hrs west to 5.0 hrs east) and so that's how I will calculate from the tables of total hours, unless I can get access to actual monthly normal values somewhere. I'm sure this will be within a couple of percentage points anyway, the drift from start to finish of the month would be rather small (in normal sunshine hours). And I will have the ongoing weekly values that are actual percentages and not estimates as a further guide.

    So in other words, Knock does not influence the monthly percentage of rainfall at this point, or the sunshine, but it may next year.

    If I were to use all of the stations as the MS now provides, it would probably skew the results towards the southwest where there seem to be more stations, so what I might do is continue on with the same eleven but add Finner and Athenry to fill in two large gaps in the data. But that won't start until 2016. We can have a group discussion about this in December along with all the other rules in play.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Now for a final update before the end of month stats (using the week of 23-29 Aug).

    IMT is only 14.1 after a cool week (13.4).

    PRC has surged ahead to 114% of normal as the week averaged 204%.

    SUN however managed a raise also with the week at 126%, the month around 104%.

    Not sure if we'll find a Monthly Summary on 2nd or 3rd, but I can calculate the IMT and PRC and give a pretty final estimate of SUN just from the daily and monthly values listed on the 1st, so will have some provisional scoring by Tuesday, that may need a very small bump up or down.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,126 ✭✭✭rameire


    🌞 3.8kwp, 🌞 Split 2.28S, 1.52E. 🌞 Clonee, Dub.🌞



  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Some final values that I will confirm from the MS (consider the IMT and PRC to be locked in, as I have those from the monthly data) ...

    IMT 14.0

    MAX 24.2

    MIN 3.5

    PRC 106% (southeast dry, Johnstown only 65% but northwest wet, Knock ended up 156% but that's not part of this data set, Claremorris was 120%)

    SUN will be very close to 100%, the last two days were generally cloudy.

    I will soon post some provisional scoring that will be adjusted (perhaps) mid-week. The annual update can wait for that occasion.

    Don't forget to enter the September contest in the pinned thread.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Confirmed scoring for August 2015


    FORECASTER _____________ IMT_MAX_MIN_PRC_SUN__BONUS______ TOTAL

    Rameire __________________ 16 _ 15 _ 19 _ 10 _ 10 __ 4 _ 5 _______ 79
    Mrskinner _________________ 16 _ 17 _ 14 _ 12 _ 10 __ 5 _ 4 _______ 78
    Lumi _____________________ 19 _ 17 _ 18 _ 09 _ 08 __ 3 _ 4 _______ 78
    dasa29____________________22 _ 12 _ 15 _ 10 _ 10 __ 2 _ 5 _______ 76
    Schadenfreudia _____________20 _ 16 _ 20 _ 04 _ 08 __ 4 _ 3 _______ 75
    Sunflower3_________________14 _ 14 _ 17 _ 11 _ 09 __ 4 _ 3 _______ 72

    Con Sensus _______________ 15 _ 13 _ 15 _ 10 _ 09 __ 3 _ 4 _______ 69

    mickger844posts ___________ 24 _ 09 _ 15 _ 06 _ 07 __ 2 _ 4 _______ 67
    waterways ________________ 14 _ 19 _ 12 _ 03 _ 09 __ 1 _ 5 _______ 63
    M.T. Cranium ______________ 18 _ 13 _ 15 _ 04 _ 06 __ 1 _ 4 _______ 61
    Harps ____________________ 16 _ 08 _ 14 _ 11 _ 06 __ 4 _ 2 _______ 61
    pauldry ___________________ 22 _ 19 _ 05 _ 01 _ 08 __ 2 _ 3 _______ 60
    Tae Laidir _________________ 10 _ 00 _ 19 _ 13 _ 10 __ 5 _ 3 _______ 60
    jd _______________________ 10 _ 00 _ 18 _ 12 _ 09 __ 5 _ 5 _______ 59
    Rikand ___________________ 15 _ 12 _ 05 _ 10 _ 08 __ 3 _ 4 _______ 57
    Kindred Spirit ______________14 _ 02 _ 15 _ 10 _ 07 __ 3 _ 5 _______ 56
    Bsal _____________________ 16 _ 00 _ 14 _ 09 _ 09 __ 3 _ 4 _______ 55
    john mac _________________ 15 _ 00 _ 18 _ 04 _ 09 __ 5 _ 4 _______ 55
    omicron _____ (-10) ________ 15 _ 12 _ 15 _ 10 _ 10 __ 5 _ 2 (-4) _ 69-14=55
    DOCARCH _________________11 _ 06 _ 06 _ 14 _ 09 __ 3 _ 3 _______ 52
    lostinashford _______________20 _ 01 _ 15 _ 07 _ 05 __ 1 _ 3 _______ 52
    200motels ___(-10)_________ 11 _ 09 _ 16 _ 10 _ 10 __ 4 _ 3 (-4) _ 63-14=49
    Jpmarn ___________________ 07 _ 00 _ 16 _ 07 _ 09 __ 5 _ 4 _______ 48
    Joe Public _________________ 11 _ 03 _ 04 _ 14 _ 08 __ 2 _ 1 (4) ____ 44
    Dacogawa ____(-5) _________ 14 _ 00 _ 13 _ 07 _ 08 __ 4 _ 4 (-2) _ 50-7 =43

    ________________________________________________

    Note: early forecast score protection for bonus (4 min) was only needed for the one case shown, all the other (4) tags are removed now. The bonus score reduction factor for late entries remains and is applied to total score.

    So, that's how things stand with the possibility of some very minor adjustments as I check the official stats later in the week. A fairly good month for scoring overall and perhaps a further tightening up of the annual race as some of our leaders were only middle of the pack this month.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,778 ✭✭✭Joe Public


    Relief that Dacogawa was a late runner :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Schadenfreudia


    :D
    I'm suffering from altitude sickness...not used to such dizzy heights...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    Knew you'd need someone to look down on Joe! ;)
    Joe Public wrote: »
    Relief that Dacogawa was a late runner :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    After checking the Monthly Summary, the provisional scoring has been upgraded to confirmed with no changes required. I found some sunshine data to compare and in fact the average was bang on 100% for the six stations used. All other values were also confirmed as stated in the post preceding the table. Congrats to Rameire, Lumi and MrSkinner for leading the August scoring.

    So now it's on to the annual update which you can see below:


    Updated annual 2015 scoring January to August


    FORECASTER _________ Jan _Feb_ Mar _Apr_ May _Jun _ Jul _ Aug __ 2015 Total (rank) __ best 7/8 (rank)

    Jpmarn ________________64 _ 57 _ 71 _ 78 _ 82 _ 67 _ 44 _ 48 ____ 511 (2) ______ 467 (1)
    M.T. Cranium ___________ 68 _ 17 _ 71 _ 86 _ 62 _ 70 _ 46 _ 61 ____ 481 (6t) _____ 464 (2)
    Lumi __________________68 _ 72 _ 59 _ 66 _ 58 _ 61 _ 53 _ 78 ____ 515 (1) ______ 462 (3)

    Con Sensus ____________ 70 _ 71 _ 63 _ 65 _ 58 _ 62 _ 55 _ 69 ____ 513 (2) ______ 458 (4)

    MrSkinner ______________--- _ 71 _ 85 _ 54 _ 47 _ 59 _ 61 _ 78 ____ 455 (12t) ____ 455 (4)
    Rikand ________________ 84 _ 59 _ 48 _ 73 _ 54 _ 66 _ 51 _ 57 ____ 492 (3) ______ 444 (5)
    dasa29 ________________ 47 _ 69 _ 67 _ 45 _ 57 _ 57 _ 70 _ 76 ____ 488 (4) _____ 443 (6)
    sunflower3 _____________ 69 _ 61 _ 59 _ 44 _ 66 _ 57 _ 54 _ 72 ____ 482 (5) _____ 438 (7)
    Bsal __________________ 77 _ 55 _ 68 _ 50 _ 57 _ 71 _ 48 _ 55 ____ 481 (6t) _____ 433 (8)
    Tae laidir ______________ 33 _ 60 _ 46 _ 68 _ 68 _ 56 _ 74 _ 60 ____ 465 (10) _____ 432 (9)
    jd ____________________ 72 _ 61 _ 68 _ 62 _ 31 _ 50 _ 53 _ 59 ____ 456 (11) _____ 425 (10)
    mickger844posts ________ 50 _ 90 _ 53 _ 61 _ 45 _ 57 _ 28 _ 67 ____ 451 (16t) ____ 423 (11)
    John mac ______________ 73 _ 55 _ 58 _ 60 _ 50 _ 50 _ 69 _ 55 ____ 470 (8) ______ 420 (12)
    Pauldry ________________51 _ 48 _ 70 _ 51 _ 67 _ 61 _ 58 _ 60 ____ 466 (9) ______ 418 (13)
    DOCARCH ______________75 _ 79 _ 40 _ 64 _ 36 _ 65 _ 42 _ 52 ____ 453 (14t) ____ 417 (14t)
    Harps _________________ 69 _ 57 _ 34 _ 70 _ 45 _ 70 _ 45 _ 61 ____ 451 (16t) ____ 417 (14t)
    lostinashford ___________ 56 _ --- _ 53 _ 64 _ 74 _ 62 _ 55 _ 52 ____ 416 (20) _____ 416 (16)
    Joe Public ______________ 69 _ 42 _ 64 _ 72 _ 39 _ 54 _ 69 _ 44 ____ 453 (14t) ____ 414 (17)
    dacogawa ______________ 48 _ 62 _ 63 _ 77 _ 58 _ --- _ 62 _ 43 ____ 413 (21) ____ 413 (18)
    Schadenfreudia __________61 _ 67 _ 53 _ 60 _ 58 _ 36 _ 38 _ 75 ____ 448 (18t) ____ 412 (19)
    kindredspirit ____________ 63 _ 57 _ 52 _ 59 _ 47 _ 60 _ 61 _ 56 ____ 455 (12t) ____ 408 (20t)
    rameire ________________ 55 _ 40 _ 46 _ 58 _ 61 _ 53 _ 56 _ 79____ 448 (18t) ____ 408 (20t)
    waterways ______________--- _ 70 _ 58 _ 58 _ 40 _ 53 _ 32 _ 63 ____ 374 (23) ____ 374 (22)
    omicron ________________41 _ 77 _ 40 _ 67 _ 49 _ 36 _ 42 _ 55 ____ 407 (22) ____ 371 (23)
    200motels ______________30 _ --- _ 59 _ 65 _ 58 _ 40 _ 35 _ 49 ____ 336 (24) ____ 336 (24)
    delw __________________ 48 _ --- _ 61 _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- ____ 109 (25)
    blue5000 _______________45 _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _____ 45
    BLIZZARD7 _____________--- _ 31 _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _ --- _____ 31
    __________________________________________________________

    The table is ordered so that the best 6 out of 7 determine the order rather than total score. You can see your ranking in total score as well. A new feature this month is a colour code (red) marking monthly high scores.

    The ranks of Con Sensus do not alter your rank which explains why there are ties with Con Sensus that are not actually ties. But there are some ties in ranking between contestants shown with the letter t after the number.

    In general, the race has tightened up with one more entrant (Lumi) passing Con Sensus ... next month, I will start to drop two low scores instead of one as we close in on the final countdown to December.

    Next order of business is to update the Four Seasons points which I will do in a separate post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,358 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Four Seasons Award -- combined scores winter, spring and summer

    Checked back to May for the previous edition of this contest update. Just a reminder, Con Sensus scores as if "he" (or she) was a contestant but that score does not drop anyone who falls below that mark.

    These are the ten highest scores for June-July-August combined which qualify for points in the table. Top score gets 10, then it's 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 points for second to seventh place and 1 point for the three in 8th, 9th and 10th positions. Any ties get the same points and can extend the number who qualify past ten.

    SUMMER HIGH SCORES _ if you're not in the list, you finished lower than 10th

    203 _ dasa29 ______ 10
    198 _ MrSkinner _____ 7
    190 _ Tae laidir ______ 6
    188 _ rameire _______ 5

    186 _ Con Sensus ____ 4

    183 _ sunflower3 _____ 4
    182 _ Lumi __________ 3
    179 _ Pauldry ________ 2
    177 _ M.T. Cranium ____1
    177 _ kindredspirit ____ 1
    176 _ Harps _________ 1

    missed the cut

    174 _ Rikand, Bsal, Johnmac
    (and all lower scores)

    So those scores now go into the annual contest table below:

    FORECASTER __________ winter __ spring __ summer ___ TOTAL to date

    Con Sensus ______________ 6 ____ 3 _____ 4 __________ 13

    Rikand _________________ 10 ____ 1 _____ 0 __________ 11
    Jpmarn _________________ 0 ____10 _____ 0 __________ 10
    MrSkinner _______________ 0 ____ 3 _____ 7 __________ 10
    dasa29 _________________ 0 _____0 _____10 __________10
    M.T. Cranium _____________0 ____ 7 _____ 1 ___________ 8
    dacogawa _______________ 1 ____ 6 _____ 0 ___________ 7
    DOCARCH _______________ 7 ____ 0 _____ 0 ___________ 7
    Tae laidir ________________0 ____ 1 ______6 ___________ 7
    jd ______________________6 ____ 0 _____ 0 ___________ 6
    Harps ___________________5 ____ 0 _____ 1 ___________ 6
    Pauldry _________________ 0 ____ 4 ______2 ___________ 6
    Rameire _________________0 ____ 0 _____ 5 ___________ 5
    Lostinashford ____________ 0 ____ 5 ______0 ___________ 5
    kindredspirit _____________ 4 ____ 0 ______1 ___________ 5
    Lumi ___________________ 0 ____ 2 ______3 ___________ 5
    sunflower3 ______________ 1 ____ 0 ______4 ___________ 5
    mickger844posts__________ 4 ____ 0 ______0 ___________ 4
    Bsal ____________________2 ____ 1 ______0 ___________ 3
    omicron _________________1 ____ 0 ______0 ___________ 1
    Joe Public _______________ 0 ____ 1 ______0 ___________ 1
    200motels _______________0 ____ 1 ______0 ___________ 1
    __________________________________________________

    Anyone listed in the table can still theoretically win this contest although those with one point can do no better than a tie for first. But I suspect the top four will manage at least one fairly decent score in autumn, so realistically the contest is now among those with 5 or more points currently. Will be interesting to see if anyone can overtake Con Sensus in this contest.

    Congrats to dasa29, MrSkinner, Tae laidir and rameire for their summer forecasting outpacing Con Sensus this season anyway.


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