Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Spoilers from post 2076

Sad Professor · 14-03-2020 2:18pm

Acosta wrote: »

Read that this is now available to stream. They brought it forward because of corona. Any idea what service it's streaming on in Ireland?

Streaming? I doubt it. Probably mean digital download. iTunes etc. Which I don’t think it’s that unusual to see early releases for as they tend to leak anyway.

Slydice · 14-03-2020 5:17pm

Total flop and a financial loss for Disney

It's available on Amazon somewhere I think

Runaways · 14-03-2020 6:19pm

They’ll have a hard time beating the director and the Jedi documentary on last Jedi which I enjoyed more than the film it just was brilliant.
but apparently the making of doco on this is even better.
I love the nuts and bolts and guts stuff more than the films sometimes so call me a nerd but it’s so cool getting behind the curtain.

Itunes Extras:

The Skywalker Legacy - 2 hour doc

Pasana Pursuit: Creating the speeder chase 14 minutes
Aliens in the Desert - 6 minute
D-O Key to the past 5:35 minutes
Warwick & Son 5:38
Cast of Creatures 7:45
The Mestro's Finale 11 minutes

CptMackey · 15-03-2020 5:12pm

Is this available in Ireland or just the states? It is only preorder on iTunes

CinemaGuy45 · 15-03-2020 5:51pm

Total flop and a financial loss for Disney

CptMackey wrote: »

Is this available in Ireland or just the states? It is only preorder on iTunes

I think early next month here.

Look it was total rubbish anyway.

Gamb!t · 15-03-2020 6:40pm

Watched it at the weekend,much better than episode 8.

Runaways · 15-03-2020 10:03pm

It’s out everywhere except here it seems. Still on pre order on iTunes.

Got my hands on the making of doco that comes with. It’s so brilliant.
It’s packed. The lengths they go to and amount of people involved in making these films is just absolutely mental.

MisterAnarchy · 16-03-2020 12:31am

Runaways wrote: »

The lengths they go to and amount of people involved in making these films is just absolutely mental.

Except sadly the most important thing ,the actual script.
Like the last series of Game of Thrones ,fabulous production and detail but a woeful script.

Runaways · 16-03-2020 6:35am

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Except sadly the most important thing ,the actual script.
Like the last series of Game of Thrones ,fabulous production and detail but a woeful script.

Wasn’t for the lack of ideas. Rather I’d say there were too many. (That whole Harry Potter planet with the village and the little alien and 3PO. Pointless)

But when you think about it the whole mirror cave scene in the last Jedi and Ray seeing two bodies merge into one as well as all the copies/clones of her, flows beautifully into what we saw in this.

But all of it not even half baked upon delivery.

Have that doco in my Dropbox if anyone wants a link. Message me. It’s a brilliant watch. Where they found all that footage from the making of the original films I’ll never know. So much I’d never seen.Even Tarkin in a blooper reel with Leia. It’s so cool

Tony EH · 16-03-2020 8:39am

They were all dumb ideas though. Stuff thrown on a whiteboard. Unconnected, random nonsense, with someone having to try an cobble together an ad hoc yarn simply to get anything, anything at all, over the line.

I've seen ten year old kids playing with dolls that could come up with a more coherent and logical story.

pixelburp · 16-03-2020 6:35pm

"What if Star Destroyers had DeathStar Lasers, and there were 20 gajillion of them!!!"

I think what Star Wars and Star Trek has shown is that while I'd still say Abrams is a decent director, it's only if he's given constraints. Be they budgetary or conceptual. Or he's kept far away from the writers room. Not that I'd ever expect hard SciFi in the ...Wars franchise, but with both IPs, Abrams just lost the plot when it came to some semblance of scale or common sense. Everything went huge to a ludicrous degree.

Drumpot · 16-03-2020 6:40pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPGTM7WWUxQ

This is gas

Runaways · 16-03-2020 7:16pm

That’s mad. He’s the image of him.

Bobby Baccala · 17-03-2020 1:59am

Just watched it there, horrendous twaddle. That trilogy made the last one look like good cinema. How did they get it so wrong with this trilogy but so right with The Mandalorian? They probably should have left the Skywalker storyline alone altogether.

SMC92Ian · 17-03-2020 10:02am

Well I finally got to see it, was sick when it was in cinemas, and wtf is wrong with people, this was down as one of the worst films in history and I don't see it. I thought it was well acted, well shot and full of great moments. Really enjoyed it. Best one out of the 3.

Bobby Baccala · 17-03-2020 1:30pm

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Well I finally got to see it, was sick when it was in cinemas, and wtf is wrong with people, this was down as one of the worst films in history and I don't see it. I thought it was well acted, well shot and full of great moments. Really enjoyed it. Best one out of the 3.

Ah here now that scene where they figure out Domhnall Gleason is the spy is one of the worst things I’ve ever had the displeasure of watching, I’ve seen Isis beheading videos that were easier to watch than that muck.

Runaways · 17-03-2020 1:49pm

Something late coming to me but it’s just fun. Pure Star Wars. It felt like loads of Flash Gordon episodic adventures all jammed into one. Just how George wanted it maybe. Screw ‘logic’.
Force ghosts magical powers and lightsabers aren’t logical.
It did however, follow its own in universe logic. Some just didn’t like the results.
The enevitable episode 10 is going to be faced with the real challenge. To truly do something different. This trilogy was just launched to put it back in our minds I’d say.

SMC92Ian · 17-03-2020 1:56pm

Bobby Baccala wrote: »

Ah here now that scene where they figure out Domhnall Gleason is the spy is one of the worst things I’ve ever had the displeasure of watching, I’ve seen Isis beheading videos that were easier to watch than that muck.

Oh shut up, what a stupid thing to say, grow the f**k up.

mikhail · 17-03-2020 2:10pm

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

Runaways wrote: »

The enevitable episode 10 is going to be faced with the real challenge. To truly do something different. This trilogy was just launched to put it back in our minds I’d say.

That's what they said about episode 8, reflecting on 7. Disney haven't a clue how to make anything of this but more noise.

SMC92Ian · 17-03-2020 3:20pm

mikhail wrote: »

That's what they said about episode 8, reflecting on 7. Disney haven't a clue how to make anything of this but more noise.

Yeah Disney don't know what they're at, that's why this made 1bil, Mandalorian took over the world for months and they brought back Clone Wars... yep they haven't a clue. :P

Bobby Baccala · 17-03-2020 4:40pm

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Yeah Disney don't know what they're at, that's why this made 1bil, Mandalorian took over the world for months and they brought back Clone Wars... yep they haven't a clue. :P

They made a complete balls of the skywalker storyline, how that latest film can appeal to anybody over the age of 12 is beyond me, nonsensical writing and it felt like the film had about 3 endings. Who gives a shít how much money it made? plenty of horrendous films and series have made a mint. You must regard Phantom Menace as academy award winning stuff if you enjoyed that scutter.

Homelander · 17-03-2020 5:02pm

I would say it's worse than The Phantom Menace to be honest (not saying it's not watchable or entertaining, just that it's fairly bad, same how I feel about Attack of the Clones)

SMC92Ian · 17-03-2020 5:44pm

Bobby Baccala wrote: »

They made a complete balls of the skywalker storyline, how that latest film can appeal to anybody over the age of 12 is beyond me, nonsensical writing and it felt like the film had about 3 endings. Who gives a shít how much money it made? plenty of horrendous films and series have made a mint. You must regard Phantom Menace as academy award winning stuff if you enjoyed that scutter.

Yeah that's your opinion bud. It's not fact. I don't really like the prequels but would take them over the originals, only the shows and newer films is what I'm an actual fan of but I don't go around crying at old fans like the old fans do to the new fans. Gatekeeping c*nts.

Worse than the Phantom Menace? HAAA lads you crack me up. **** hahaha.

Tony EH · 17-03-2020 7:54pm

The sequel trilogy reminds me of Rick and Morty watching interdimensional TV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba9k5SWwE38

ErnestBorgnine · 17-03-2020 8:09pm

SMC92Ian wrote: »

Yeah that's your opinion bud. It's not fact. I don't really like the prequels but would take them over the originals, only the shows and newer films is what I'm an actual fan of but I don't go around crying at old fans like the old fans do to the new fans. Gatekeeping c*nts.

Worse than the Phantom Menace? HAAA lads you crack me up. **** hahaha.

This is a better performance than anything in RoS

CinemaGuy45 · 17-03-2020 8:13pm

Total flop and a financial loss for Disney

I am a crazy Star Wars nut seen all the films loads of times.

I went to this once in the cinema and some how it came into my hands last night.

I watched less than ten minutes it really is dross.

SMC92Ian · 17-03-2020 8:21pm

ErnestBorgnine wrote: »

This is a better performance than anything in RoS

You're insane.

Runaways · 17-03-2020 8:42pm

mikhail wrote: »

That's what they said about episode 8, reflecting on 7. Disney haven't a clue how to make anything of this but more noise.

Apple are about to buy Disney. We can then say they did a ‘jobs’ on it I guess

Relikk · 17-03-2020 9:26pm

Saw it twice in the cinema and now twice at home. I still enjoy it very much every time I see it. My only gripe with it is that the Emperor dies far too quickly and easily. They should have added a couple of more minutes to that sequence.

chrislad · 18-03-2020 11:40am

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

Relikk wrote: »

Saw it twice in the cinema and now twice at home. I still enjoy it very much every time I see it. My only gripe with it is that the Emperor dies far too quickly and easily. They should have added a couple of more minutes to that sequence.

But she has two lightsabers! I don't see how anyone could have lasted longer against that!

:pac:

I did rewatch it, and while I did think it was fine in cinema, it's definitely not holding up for me on rewatches.

Homelander · 18-03-2020 11:34pm

chrislad wrote: »

I did rewatch it, and while I did think it was fine in cinema, it's definitely not holding up for me on rewatches.

Don't plan watching it again but a good friend of mine who's a serious fan and liked it initially, felt the same on rewatching it at home.

Runaways · 18-03-2020 11:59pm

Force awaken was and is eminently rewatchable for me. The middle one is just so heavy you can’t kind of even have it on in the background. This one though I don’t know. It’s just so packed. It doesn’t stop for a breather. Saw a clip earlier of the lightsaber fight in the ocean. Man they’re really beating the sh!t out of each. Look forward to seeing that again anyways.

TinCool · 19-03-2020 12:42pm

I enjoyed it. A few silly plot holes but enjoyable none the less. The structure is very ROTJ. Nice to see Han pop up again. Final nod to the best character.

fryup · 19-03-2020 11:30pm

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

wonder will the release of the dvd/blu ray be brought forward?? seeing that everyone is hunkered indoors

Potential-Monke · 20-03-2020 2:27am

Ok, I went into this expecting nothing, because aside from Rogue One, imo, all the Star Wars films are terrible. And I wasn't disappointed with this carrying on that tradition.

I've said it since the original films, the cast in those could not act. I was putting it down to just dodgy 1970's acting in general, but nope, they continued it throughout. Even in this, any scene with nearly any of the OG cast was just terrible. I'll give them a pass on Carrie Fisher, but my god, for all the amazing work Mark Hamill has done throughout his career, Luke Skywalker is his worst. I could even feel that he didn't want to be doing the movie.

Anyway, yeah, it's a pretty looking film. Can't fault that. But the whole thing just felt dated. Daisy Ridley was fine, I'm sure she'll shine more in better written roles. New Solo, whatever his name is, was still annoying with his mashup of Solo and Skywalker, or whatever they were trying to pull with him. Emo Vader, well, didn't like him from the second he took off his mask. He's a great actor, just again, left down in this world. There was one good scene, with Evil Rey, would like a fleshed out version of that. They do good villians, I'll give them that. Ex-Storm Trooper guy was alright. Generic. And as mentioned above, the 'boss' battle with the Emperor... I'd expect something as bad in the TV series for Batwoman.

Anyway, i'm rambling. To me, another terrible (but pretty) entry, and thankfully the last, in the current run. I look forward to seeing what they can do, but they need to remove the "Disney" from it, ie: make it less old school of Good Guys vs the Bad Guys and the happy endings and all is well schtick that ruins potentially good films. A darker Star Wars would be better imo.

So we still give scores here? If so, 3/10 just for how well it looks.

chrislad · 20-03-2020 11:53am

Runaway hit highest gross beating The force Awakens

In fairness, it's really just these sequel movies that are dropping the ball a bit. The comics have been very strong, with some great stories to flesh out the periods between IV and V, as well as Vader between III and IV. Currently, it's focusing on V to VI for both Vader and the main cast.

The new High Republic era that is launching later this year has me optimistic about the non film media side of things, and I hope that with the Skywalker saga closed off, they focus on this era, or very Old Republic, rather than going forward past the events of IX.

Potential-Monke · 20-03-2020 11:33pm

My interest wouldn't be enough to know about the outside media, but that's usually the case anyway, with spin off animated shows usually being better. But as you said, it's better if they move to a different era. Don't know anything about the before or after, as long as it distances itself from the Skywalker saga it should be better. Just my opinion mind.

Runaways · 20-03-2020 11:39pm

I just couldn’t justify or would be much interested in buying a big 4K hd tv and all that so I’ll be sad to miss out on this. Damn it looks impressive though. Out the end of the month.
The skywalker saga boxset

https://youtu.be/r29t44mp59Q

Calibos · 23-03-2020 10:26am

Thankfully I never paid to see any of the sequel Trilogy. First 2 I watched on Home Cinema Projector and TROS I just watched in the largest iMAX in the world at Darling Harbour in Sydney Australia (500 seats and 100ft wide screen)....well in a Virtual Cinema accurate recreation of it on my 2160x2160 pixel per eye HP Reverb VR Headset.

(approaching PQ of the real thing in that VR Headset)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=7&v=_VRfxG3I5F0&feature=emb_logo

Watching it on the biggest screen in the world did not affect my impression of the movie. Dreadful from beginning to end.

pixelburp · 24-03-2020 6:29pm

Honest Trailers kinda went into autopilot over the last while, but their Episode IX feels on point. "The only consistent character across all 9 films" felt particularly cutting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7dq_wo5eto

robinph · 24-03-2020 10:57pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Honest Trailers kinda went into autopilot over the last while, but their Episode IX feels on point. "The only consistent character across all 9 films" felt particularly cutting

Except they picked the wrong droid for that, unless getting your memory wiped repeatedly in order to fix some plot holes counts as consistency. R2 was the only character who ever knew what was happening, or could remember what did happen in the past.

SMC92Ian · 25-03-2020 12:13am

I don't get the ejits saying you couldn't follow the story without reading books or twitter stuff, are you gobsh*tes? It's a simple easy plot.

Runaways · 25-03-2020 7:58pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Honest Trailers kinda went into autopilot over the last while, but their Episode IX feels on point. "The only consistent character across all 9 films" felt particularly cutting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7dq_wo5eto

The entire premise of that channel is more commercialized and ad revenue driven than anything even Lucas or Disney managed to come up with

Irony is off the menu I guess.

pixelburp · 29-03-2020 4:15pm

SMC92Ian wrote: »

I don't get the ejits saying you couldn't follow the story without reading books or twitter stuff, are you gobsh*tes? It's a simple easy plot.

That wasn't the complaint of folks. The complaint was that a big part of the plot went unexplained in the film - chiefly, how was Palpatine even alive? Instead it was in the novelisation and, bizarrely, an event run within the online video-game Fortnite. It was particularly odd given the entire return of Palp, and the about-turn of Rey's lineage, was done purely as a desperate tactic to get fans onside after Episode XIII. Complexity wasn't the issue, it was coherence or intelligence of the script.

Runaways wrote: »

The entire premise of that channel is more commercialized and ad revenue driven than anything even Lucas or Disney managed to come up with

Irony is off the menu I guess.

Who are you Alanis Morissette, cos that ain't irony. "more commercialised"? A monetized YouTube channel producing comedy videos hardly stacks up against a corporation like Disney & its industrialised nostalgia, but whatever. As the saying goes, your mileage may vary, the video was shared for a mild giggle so *shrug*. Satire doesn't contain the prerequisite of being made for free to hit its mark.

Runaways · 02-04-2020 6:18am

Don’t know anything about all that 4K hd ultra stuff but the few friends I have that are into it are saying the new films and rise of skywalker in particular looks fantastic.

I’d just be happy with the dvd at this stage. It’s not coming for ages

Relikk · 02-04-2020 10:38am

Runaways wrote: »

I’d just be happy with the dvd at this stage. It’s not coming for ages

Watching some of the featurettes on the Star Wars YouTube channel and I kept seeing at the end of them "Out now on Blu-Ray and digital", thinking that they had brought the release forward here, but no. It was released in the States on the 31st of March. Still not out here until around the 20th of this month.

Runaways · 02-04-2020 10:55am

Relikk wrote: »

Watching some of the featurettes on the Star Wars YouTube channel and I kept seeing at the end of them "Out now on Blu-Ray and digital", thinking that they had brought the release forward here, but no. It was released in the States on the 31st of March. Still not out here until around the 20th of this month.

Strange isn’t it? It’s even out in Australia

Seem to remember the last few being available everywhere at once but who knows.

SMC92Ian · 02-04-2020 2:04pm

It's 2020, they're shooting themselves not releasing a movie worldwide at the same time.

Runaways · 02-04-2020 2:36pm

SMC92Ian wrote: »

It's 2020, they're shooting themselves not releasing a movie worldwide at the same time.

The odd thing is it isn’t available on Disney + either

They must be staggering out physical media over time

pixelburp · 02-04-2020 2:48pm

Perhaps with the poor reception and what I presume is a theoretically - and relatively - underwhelming box office taking, Disney are trying to stagger home releases to plunder the wallets of the impatient *shrug*

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