Bus Eireann - Proposal to Tender 10% of Routes in 2021

mikeybhoy · 30-04-2023 4:51pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120538638#Comment_120538638

That's gonna be a tight squeeze with the 155, 184 and 185 terminating there aswell as the 84 handing over and the 45a passing through not sure how it's gonna work.

p_haugh · 30-04-2023 5:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120539598#Comment_120539598

Indeed.

The proposed upgrades to the bus interchange outside the station might help. It's had planning permission since 2019, but there's no word on when that should start construction as far as I'm aware. And even then that proposed 3 bus bays, ~~with no provision for any layover bays...~~

Edit: After checking the planning report, there's mention of a "short-term layover facility" on Quinsborough Road. Hopefully they make it so multiple buses can park up there.

Screenshot of proposed Bray Station transport interchange

LXFlyer · 30-04-2023 5:39pm

I think you mean Quinsborough Road! :-)

p_haugh · 30-04-2023 5:43pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120539893#Comment_120539893

Yep!

Don't know why I had Quinnsworth in my head 😂

p_haugh · 30-04-2023 7:53pm

Apologies for staying slighty off-topic, but I did some more digging and came across this twitter thread, which mentions (among other PT updates for Bray) that works on the interchange should begin in "Q2 2023", with a 12-18 month construction time.

https://twitter.com/AaronMcAllorum/status/1604937920653459456?s=20

This same info was also reported in the Wicklow Times in January

https://twitter.com/BrayPicks/status/1612462055180873728?s=20

dublinman1990 · 02-05-2023 5:48am

Those plans for the new forecourt outside Bray Dart Station are going to be a very tight squeeze for the 131 to try and terminate the buses there.

Having only 3 bus bays for all of the other GA & Dublin Bus routes trying to stop their buses there also create significant challenges for other routes if they have to stop outside the station.

I personally would have shrunk the width of the big zebra crossing outside the entrance to the Dart station. I would also include an extra 1 or 2 bus bays and place them where the new proposed electric bikes charging points which directly outside the station.

And what about Finnegans?

They still operate their bus routes to both Southern Cross and to Sandyford Business District at the moment. Could they operate a reduced service to make them co-exist alongside the new L routes terminating at Bray Station?

p_haugh · 08-05-2023 8:18pm

Happened to be in Bray yesterday and saw VB515 and VB512 on the 131. One thing I noticed is that they didn't put in any new TFI stop poles, or even update the timetables on the existing stops for the new service. This is the same case for the existing 133 stops along the N11 from what I could see.

I thought this should have been a priority with a new contract being launched? Also I noticed that the route changes & additions were only added to the TFI Live app today. Again, something that should have been present for the launch of the changes.

The layover issue at Bray Station was prevalent yesterday as well. It seems the VBs lay over for around an hour, and the drivers were parking up outside the station for that whoie time. I had gotten a 45a from Boghall Road and a wheelchair user got on at the same stop. When we got to the train station, the driver was unable to pull into the curb, so they had to let the wheelchair user off into the roadway between parked buses. Luckily the wheelchair user had a helper, but stuff like this shouldnt have to happen in the first place. The VBs should have to layover on Adelaide Road/Quinsborough Road at a minimum.

mikeybhoy · 08-05-2023 11:56pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120572096#Comment_120572096

No surprises there. The unaccountable NTA never cease to amaze me.

p_haugh · 28-05-2023 11:49am

I've noticed that the 133 & 131 changes are now showing on Citymapper, but Google maps still hasnt been updated. This is something that should really be implemented at launch! Google Maps even still shows the 133x as a scheduled service.

TranslatorPS · 29-05-2023 9:43am

Interestingly enough GM/NTA* has been rather good at uploading new GTFS packages on the Dublin city network changes...

*) take your pick

Bus Eireann - Proposal to Tender 10% of Routes in 2021

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