The glorious 12th

FrancieBrady · 08-08-2019 3:25pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I see where the British prime minister Boris Johnson in response to a question was unable to say how many counties there are in Northern Ireland and could only name one, Londonderry! And the loyalists /DUP think this guy will look after them!

Seriously? Have you a link Dan?

realdanbreen · 08-08-2019 3:31pm

FrancieBrady wrote: »

realdanbreen wrote: »

I see where the British prime minister Boris Johnson in response to a question was unable to say how many counties there are in Northern Ireland and could only name one, Londonderry! And the loyalists /DUP think this guy will look after them!

Seriously? Have you a link Dan?

it was on tv the other night, one of those independent channels I think called ETV+

downcow · 08-08-2019 3:51pm

gwalk wrote: »

Couldn't even name a real place &#55357;&#56834;

Londonderry is a myth, its Derry

The irony in these two statements is humorous if not a little shocking

downcow · 08-08-2019 3:53pm

citytillidie wrote: »

I seen the police are out in force to help contractors remove an anti-interment bonfire in Belfast. Pity they don't enforce such actions on the 11th night bonfire's instead of letting the bully boys win.

Maybe the difference is that SF and SDLP want the bonfire's gone

They dare not touch these but
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/tyres-pile-up-as-talks-over-contentious-bonfire-in-the-bogside-go-on-38384665.html

downcow · 08-08-2019 3:55pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Just wee toe rags building the bonfire that the community there don't want but the police handling is very telling. Where they said they could not guarantee the contractors safety on the days leading to the 11th but can today.

You might have to withdraw that statement in the same way as the PSNI have just withdrawn
https://www.thejournal.ie/police-belfast-anti-internment-bonfire-4757312-Aug2019/?utm_source=shortlink

citytillidie · 08-08-2019 4:23pm

downcow wrote: »

They dare not touch these but
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/tyres-pile-up-as-talks-over-contentious-bonfire-in-the-bogside-go-on-38384665.html

Another bonfire not wanted by the majority of the community and wee toe rags will be at the cause of it.

citytillidie · 08-08-2019 4:29pm

downcow wrote: »

You might have to withdraw that statement in the same way as the PSNI have just withdrawn
https://www.thejournal.ie/police-belfast-anti-internment-bonfire-4757312-Aug2019/?utm_source=shortlink

With drawn now they got their headlines

janfebmar · 09-08-2019 8:19am

realdanbreen wrote: »

it was on tv the other night, one of those independent channels I think called ETV+

Have googled your claim that Boris only could name one Irish county, there is no proof or mention of that on the interwebs that I can see.

I can only conclude it is fake news as if it happened others would have commented on it.

The Nal · 09-08-2019 9:23am

More fun last night

Belfast bonfire goes ahead after clashes between youths and police

Teenager critical after stabbings near contentious Belfast bonfire

FrancieBrady · 09-08-2019 9:30am

The Nal wrote: »

More fun last night

Belfast bonfire goes ahead after clashes between youths and police

Teenager critical after stabbings near contentious Belfast bonfire

No point posting that, that is below the threshold for those who blissfully think the GFA cured all this. Like the British famously had 'an acceptable level of violence' so too do they.

realdanbreen · 09-08-2019 9:52am

janfebmar wrote: »

realdanbreen wrote: »

it was on tv the other night, one of those independent channels I think called ETV+

Have googled your claim that Boris only could name one Irish county, there is no proof or mention of that on the interwebs that I can see.

I can only conclude it is fake news as if it happened others would have commented on it.

I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

citytillidie · 09-08-2019 10:40am

realdanbreen wrote: »

I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

Sure look at the last NI secretary she did not know much about NI when she was appointed.

"I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn't understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland," she said.

"I didn't understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland, people who are nationalists don't vote for unionist parties and vice-versa

timthumbni · 09-08-2019 10:41am

Kill all huns (Protestants) , 18 Brits were blown to bits haha, stabbings, petrol bombs etc etc.

I seem to remember a poster on here full of bum and bluster about how young nationalists were all into education, travel and Gaelic games.

Did the wans in newry, new lodge and Londonderry not get the memo?

realdanbreen · 09-08-2019 11:06am

citytillidie wrote: »

realdanbreen wrote: »

I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

Sure look at the last NI secretary she did not know much about NI when she was appointed.

"I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn't understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland," she said.

"I didn't understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland, people who are nationalists don't vote for unionist parties and vice-versa

Sure the young fella that was there before her said he couldn't get over the fact that Dublin was less than 2 hours drive from Belfast! The British government don't even bother sending these gems on a two day course before sending them over!

citytillidie · 09-08-2019 1:42pm

timthumbni wrote: »

Kill all huns (Protestants) , 18 Brits were blown to bits haha, stabbings, petrol bombs etc etc.

I seem to remember a poster on here full of bum and bluster about how young nationalists were all into education, travel and Gaelic games.

Did the wans in newry, new lodge and Londonderry not get the memo?

Difference is most nationalist communities don't want these bonfire's and political entity will not attend.

11th night bonfire's full of hate and unionist communities see it as their culture with political entity defending them and welcoming them

munsterlegend · 09-08-2019 1:55pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Difference is most nationalist communities don't want these bonfire's and political entity will not attend.

11th night bonfire's full off hate and unionist communities see it as their culture with political entity defending them and welcoming them

You had a DUP politician taking a selfie with her partner as the tricolour was burning on the bonfire. Funny enough Unionist politician twitter accounts go very quiet in July before the 12th.

09-08-2019 2:02pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Sure look at the last NI secretary she did not know much about NI when she was appointed.

"I freely admit that when I started this job, I didn't understand some of the deep-seated and deep-rooted issues that there are in Northern Ireland," she said.

"I didn't understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland, people who are nationalists don't vote for unionist parties and vice-versa

Here’s the full quote, for accuracy.

I didn’t understand things like when elections are fought for example in Northern Ireland - people who are nationalists don’t vote for unionist parties and vice-versa.

“So, the parties fight for the election within their own community. Actually, the unionist parties fight the elections against each other in unionist communities and nationalists in nationalist communities.

“That’s a very different world from the world I came from where in Staffordshire Moorlands I was fighting a Labour-held seat as a Conservative politician and I was trying to put forward why you would want to switch from voting Labour to voting Conservative.

“That is so incredibly different and it’s when you realise that, and you see that, that you can then start to understand some of the things that the politicians say and some of the rhetoric.”

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/uk-regions/northern-ireland/news/98027/karen-bradley-i-did-not-know-people-northern-ireland

FrancieBrady · 09-08-2019 2:36pm

realdanbreen wrote: »

I don’t care what you conclude I can only go on what I saw on TV. You seem surprised that he wouldn't know much about North, seriously! You think any of his predecessors knew much more about the place?

I wouldn't be in slightest surprised that he said it. This was the Foreign Secretary that thought the border was similar to the one between Islington and Camden or some other London suburbs.

timthumbni · 09-08-2019 3:00pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Difference is most nationalist communities don't want these bonfire's and political entity will not attend.

Yet they appear to have no problem attending events that glorify terrorist murderers.

Your fellow Londondoire woman in particular has been filmed in recent days dancing around the street like an embarrassing drunk uncle at a wedding and then roaring our day will come about 20 times to a rather morally bankrupt crowd of republican idiots in Strabane.

timthumbni · 09-08-2019 6:10pm

Just watching these violent Irish republicans from the new lodge on the news now. Oh dear. At least 3 stabbed apparently. Remind me not to stay in an air bnb there anyway. Very stabby.

I see the ones on here who were very vocal about the peelers leaving the loyalist bonfire in east Belfast alone are now very quiet. Very telling.

FrancieBrady · 09-08-2019 6:19pm

timthumbni wrote: »

Just watching these violent Irish republicans from the new lodge on the news now. Oh dear. At least 3 stabbed apparently. Remind me not to stay in an air bnb there anyway. Very stabby.

I see the ones on here who were very vocal about the peelers leaving the loyalist bonfire in east Belfast alone are now very quiet. Very telling.

Poster suddenly appears on thread when there is much smaller scale reactionary bonfire by themuns to complain about it being 'quiet'.

I already condemned this expression of violence before it inevitably happened. As have political representatives who were not gloating when the police pulled back nor have selfies taken with flags burning behind them.

janfebmar · 09-08-2019 7:21pm

timthumbni wrote: »

Yet they appear to have no problem attending events that glorify terrorist murderers.

Your fellow Londondoire woman in particular has been filmed in recent days dancing around the street like an embarrassing drunk uncle at a wedding and then roaring our day will come about 20 times to a rather morally bankrupt crowd of republican idiots in Strabane.

Well said. She was pathetic to see. And do not be annoyed at Francie complaining you suddenly appear, it would be worse if you were on these threads 100 hours a week like poor Francie seems to be.

citytillidie · 09-08-2019 9:02pm

No comebacks about politicians and bonfires so goal posts are moved again i see

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 9:02am

citytillidie wrote: »

No comebacks about politicians and bonfires so goal posts are moved again i see

Any comebacks about politicians attending events honouring dead paramilitaries I wonder?

FrancieBrady · 10-08-2019 9:05am

janfebmar wrote: »

Any comebacks about politicians attending events honouring dead paramilitaries I wonder?

I don't think she made a statement after the event at the Carson statue.

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 9:11am

I think you will find he was more of a politician than a terrorist, and he never fired a gun or exploded a bomb.
Nice try at whataboutery and deflection though, you only had to go back to a person of a century ago. What about more modern times?

FrancieBrady · 10-08-2019 9:21am

janfebmar wrote: »

I think you will find he was more of a politician than a terrorist, and he never fired a gun or exploded a bomb.
Nice try at whataboutery and deflection though, you only had to go back to a person of a century ago. What about more modern times?

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janfebmar · 10-08-2019 10:16am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

A photo taken on a foreign holiday does not count Francie. I had a photo taken when I held the wheel of a formula one sports car once when on holiday too, and in a pilot's seat , that does not make me a racing driver or a pilot.

gwalk · 10-08-2019 12:19pm

No outrage from the Jaffas about the carry on in Tullyally, Co Derry??

Imagine my shock at their selective outrage ðŸ€—

citytillidie · 10-08-2019 1:22pm

janfebmar wrote: »

I think you will find he was more of a politician than a terrorist, and he never fired a gun or exploded a bomb.
Nice try at whataboutery and deflection though, you only had to go back to a person of a century ago. What about more modern times?

What like a loyalist UDA commander complaining abort Arlene ruining his street cred and all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45437388

Or the fact she was meeting loyalist members even giving lots of money via Stormont.

Or Arlene again meeting a UDA leader after a murder

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/arlene-fosters-stance-on-paramilitary-groups-brought-into-question

citytillidie · 10-08-2019 2:25pm

gwalk wrote: »

No outrage from the Jaffas about the carry on in Tullyally, Co Derry??

Imagine my shock at their selective outrage &#55356;&#56343;

Of course not but come the bogside during this week they will be up in arms again

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 3:01pm

citytillidie wrote: »

What like a loyalist UDA commander complaining abort Arlene ruining his street cred and all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45437388

Or the fact she was meeting loyalist members even giving lots of money via Stormont.

Or Arlene again meeting a UDA leader after a murder

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/arlene-fosters-stance-on-paramilitary-groups-brought-into-question

Lol. I opened up the link and it said there was no proof that the charity worker Arlene met was a UDA man decades ago.

Fionn1952 · 10-08-2019 3:35pm

janfebmar wrote: »

citytillidie wrote: »

What like a loyalist UDA commander complaining abort Arlene ruining his street cred and all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-45437388

Or the fact she was meeting loyalist members even giving lots of money via Stormont.

Or Arlene again meeting a UDA leader after a murder

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/11/arlene-fosters-stance-on-paramilitary-groups-brought-into-question

Lol. I opened up the link and it said there was no proof that the charity worker Arlene met was a UDA man decades ago.

Are you genuinely trying to argue that Dee Stitt wasn't in the UDA? I'd respectfully suggest that you may want to look that up a little more before making such idiotic statements.

I'll give you a clue....take a look at his criminal record - he was convicted for taking part in a UDA robbery, and is fully open about the fact that he was in the UDA until at least 1992, and at least, 'connected to' the UDA after that point.

As of last year, as per the Newsletter:

Asked when he left, he said: “Well, listen, here – the bottom line is ... you know, if I turned round and said to you, you know, if I answered that question, that question could put me in prison, you know, so obviously I’m saying that I was ...”

Surely it would only put him in prison if he answered it a certain way? He replied: “That’s what I’m saying. I was in the UDA before it was proscribed [1992]. After it was proscribed, I left the UDA. Simple. Simple. But I was still involved with the organisation.”

He said that he “played a meaningful role” in UDA decommissioning in 2009 and that he still has “connections with the UDA”, with some of his best friends in the group, adding: “I still have a role with the organisation, or a relationship with the organisation, to advise them on transition.”

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 4:09pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

Are you genuinely trying to argue that Dee Stitt wasn't in the UDA? I'd respectfully suggest that you may want to look that up a little more before making such idiotic statements.

I'll give you a clue....take a look at his criminal record - he was convicted for taking part in a UDA robbery, and is fully open about the fact that he was in the UDA until at least 1992, and at least, 'connected to' the UDA after that point.

As of last year, as per the Newsletter:

The link says there is no proof he was a commander in the UDA, and there is nothing to suggest he took part in any violence? There are lots of other err community organisations on the other side where people involved had shadowy links and not a comment is made.

FrancieBrady · 10-08-2019 5:49pm

janfebmar wrote: »

A photo taken on a foreign holiday does not count Francie. I had a photo taken when I held the wheel of a formula one sports car once when on holiday too, and in a pilot's seat , that does not make me a racing driver or a pilot.

Yeh, true. He was probably completely unaware that the Israeli's were routing weapons to the UDA. He was just getting a tan.

Fionn1952 · 10-08-2019 7:04pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Fionn1952 wrote: »

Are you genuinely trying to argue that Dee Stitt wasn't in the UDA? I'd respectfully suggest that you may want to look that up a little more before making such idiotic statements.

I'll give you a clue....take a look at his criminal record - he was convicted for taking part in a UDA robbery, and is fully open about the fact that he was in the UDA until at least 1992, and at least, 'connected to' the UDA after that point.

As of last year, as per the Newsletter:

The link says there is no proof he was a commander in the UDA, and there is nothing to suggest he took part in any violence? There are lots of other err community organisations on the other side where people involved had shadowy links and not a comment is made.

You stated there was no proof he was a UDA man. He has openly admitted to being in the UDA. Quit talking absolute sh*te.

Just acknowledge, for once, you're completely, indisputably wrong.

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 8:12pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

You stated there was no proof he was a UDA man. He has openly admitted to being in the UDA. Quit talking absolute sh*te.

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In the link provided at the top of the page it did not say he admitted to being in the UDA. I could not care less to be honest if he was or not, I do not know him and I would be surprised that in some charity or victims organisation there was not someone with shadowy links to a paramilitary. Still no proof he ever committed murder or violence though?

On the other side of the fence there are how many people in some position who have links to pira or inla?

And what has the above to do with the SF meps performance in Strabane?

Fionn1952 · 10-08-2019 8:36pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Fionn1952 wrote: »

You stated there was no proof he was a UDA man. He has openly admitted to being in the UDA. Quit talking absolute sh*te.

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In the link provided at the top of the page it did not say he admitted to being in the UDA. I could not care less to be honest if he was or not, I do not know him and I would be surprised that in some charity or victims organisation there was not someone with shadowy links to a paramilitary. Still no proof he ever committed murder or violence though?

On the other side of the fence there are how many people in some position who have links to pira or inla?

And what has the above to do with the SF meps performance in Strabane?

I wasn't responding to a post about anything in Strabane (though if you must know my opinion, I think it was an absolutely idiotic thing to do, and supremely unhelpful). I was responding to your post where you stated there was no proof Dee Stitt was a UDA man. I provided proof (his own bloody admission that he was a UDA man), I would imagine given his involvement with the UDA, given their usual activities that he was involved in violence at least, and likely murder. I would presume the same of a self-admitted senior IRA member.

Of course, rather than admit that you weren't just wrong, but spectacularly, embarrassingly wrong, you cop out and pretend you didn't care about it in the first place. If you didn't care, why bring it up?

Happy to admit you were wrong now by the way?

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 8:43pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

. I provided proof (his own bloody admission that he was a UDA man), I would imagine given his involvement with the UDA, given their usual activities that he was involved in violence at least, and likely murder. I would presume the same of a self-admitted senior IRA member.

You copied and pasted a few paragraphs but did not give any like. That is not proof he was a UDA man. Was he ever convicted of any UDA offences?

I can think of many former IRA men who were convicted of offences. Use you loaf;)

citytillidie · 10-08-2019 9:11pm

After today the Apprentice Boys have burned some bridges with peaceful marching in Derry after they and the PSNI allowed a flute band from Scotland to parade with a Para mofif on their arm. The cops knew it could have lead to something they had to provide a 30 police man escort around the parade route. They were not allowed to march on the return leg.

Fionn1952 · 10-08-2019 10:01pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Fionn1952 wrote: »

. I provided proof (his own bloody admission that he was a UDA man), I would imagine given his involvement with the UDA, given their usual activities that he was involved in violence at least, and likely murder. I would presume the same of a self-admitted senior IRA member.

You copied and pasted a few paragraphs but did not give any like. That is not proof he was a UDA man. Was he ever convicted of any UDA offences?

I can think of many former IRA men who were convicted of offences. Use you loaf;)

He was convicted for taking part in a UDA robbery. He literally admits to being in the UDA......do you suspect he is lying? I copy/pasted a paragraph and provided a source for that quote. This isn't complicated.

You're an absolute t*t, Jan. This is next level denial of reality.

To add further, from a Belfast Telegraph article-

In a 2013 interview for a Radio Ulster special on the UDA and the flag protests, the convicted armed robber was candid.

"Yes, I've been to a protest myself in north Down and Bangor. Three protests I've been at as a UDA individual and as a member of the community."

Belfast Telegraph and the Newsletter (the source of the previous quote) would hardly be described as Provo propaganda sources, would they, Jan?

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 10:54pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

I copy/pasted a paragraph and provided a source for that quote.

You said it was from the Belfast Telegraph but you did not give a link. I was commenting on the other links which were provided on the man. I do not care less if a unionist politician was photograhed with someone who was once a member of a paramilitary group. Plenty of times they were not just photographed once with them, but had to work in government with them ....how many elected SF politicians has pIRA links?

citytillidie wrote: »

After today the Apprentice Boys have burned some bridges with peaceful marching in Derry after they and the PSNI allowed a flute band from Scotland to parade with a Para mofif on their arm. The cops knew it could have lead to something they had to provide a 30 police man escort around the parade route. They were not allowed to march on the return leg.

And in other news, large signs mocking members of the security forces who were killed by paramilitaries, as well as the late Willie Fraser and his family, have been placed on a large republican bonfire in Newry the other day.

Fionn1952 · 10-08-2019 11:22pm

janfebmar wrote: »

Fionn1952 wrote: »

I copy/pasted a paragraph and provided a source for that quote.

You said it was from the Belfast Telegraph but you did not give a link. I was commenting on the other links which were provided on the man. I do not care less if a unionist politician was photograhed with someone who was once a member of a paramilitary group. Plenty of times they were not just photographed once with them, but had to work in government with them ....how many elected SF politicians has pIRA links?

citytillidie wrote: »

After today the Apprentice Boys have burned some bridges with peaceful marching in Derry after they and the PSNI allowed a flute band from Scotland to parade with a Para mofif on their arm. The cops knew it could have lead to something they had to provide a 30 police man escort around the parade route. They were not allowed to march on the return leg.

And in other news, large signs mocking members of the security forces who were killed by paramilitaries, as well as the late Willie Fraser and his family, have been placed on a large republican bonfire in Newry the other day.

If you don't care, why comment on it, Jan?

Are you happy, at this point, to acknowledge that, despite your previous hesitancy to accept it, that Dee Stitt was, without any doubt whatsoever, a UDA member? Then we can at least put this little aside to bed.

gwalk · 10-08-2019 11:36pm

janfebmar wrote: »

And in other news, large signs mocking members of the security forces who were killed by paramilitaries, as well as the late Willie Fraser and his family, have been placed on a large republican bonfire in Newry the other day.

Ok now do one about Tullyally or does that not fit your agenda?

janfebmar · 10-08-2019 11:58pm

Fionn1952 wrote: »

If you don't care, why comment on it, Jan?

Because someone was commenting on how one Unionist politician once got her photo taken with someone who once had paramilitary connections. Big deal, what percentage of SF had paramilitary connections or worse?

gwalk wrote: »

Ok now do one about Tullyally or does that not fit your agenda?

The only thing I knew about Tullyally was that republicans left some bombs there during the troubles. However I see that the residents have just built a bonfire not unlike that seen a few days ago in Newry. Both bonfires need to be condemned. The extremists on both sides are as bad as each other up north, thank God they will never be united with us.

Fionn1952 · 11-08-2019 12:07am

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janfebmar wrote: »

Fionn1952 wrote: »

If you don't care, why comment on it, Jan?

Because someone was commenting on how one Unionist politician once got her photo taken with someone who once had paramilitary connections. Big deal, what percentage of SF had paramilitary connections or worse?

But that isn't what you said, Jan. You didn't say, 'it's no big deal that she was photographed with a (possibly former, though unlikely) prominent UDA member.

You said that there was no evidence that Dee Stitt was a UDA member.

Do you accept that this was inaccurate, and that Dee Stitt was, without any shadow of a doubt, a member of the UDA?

A simple yes or no will suffice, rather than your low-grade bait and switch tactics.

citytillidie · 11-08-2019 12:10am

janfebmar wrote: »

You said it was from the Belfast Telegraph but you did not give a link. I was commenting on the other links which were provided on the man. I do not care less if a unionist politician was photograhed with someone who was once a member of a paramilitary group. Plenty of times they were not just photographed once with them, but had to work in government with them ....how many elected SF politicians has pIRA links?

And in other news, large signs mocking members of the security forces who were killed by paramilitaries, as well as the late Willie Fraser and his family, have been placed on a large republican bonfire in Newry the other day.

Jesus can you not go with whataboutary, two can play at that game picture of Martin McGuinness and others were placed on a bonfire in Derry last night

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49305516

janfebmar · 11-08-2019 12:17am

Fionn1952 wrote: »

You said that there was no evidence that Dee Stitt was a UDA member.

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I said the link that was provided said there was no evidence he was a UDA commander.

Fionn1952 · 11-08-2019 12:19am

janfebmar wrote: »

Fionn1952 wrote: »

You said that there was no evidence that Dee Stitt was a UDA member.

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I said the link that was provided said there was no evidence he was a UDA commander.

A simple yes or no, Jan. Do you accept that Dee Stitt was a member of the UDA?

No need for the theatrics, selective quoting, half answers. Just a simple one word answer - do you accept that Dee Stitt was a member of the UDA?

janfebmar · 11-08-2019 12:21am

citytillidie wrote: »

picture of Martin McGuinness and others were placed on a bonfire in Derry last night

As I said. And reference was made to named murdered security force personnel, and to Willie Fraiser and family on the bonfire in Newry the previous evening .

As I said, "The extremists on both sides are as bad as each other up north, thank God they will never be united with us."

The glorious 12th

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