The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

evolving tipperary · 13-02-2016 10:24pm

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]TIPPERARY: D Gleeson; C Barrett, T Hamill, M Cahill; B Maher, J Barry, P draic Maher (0-02); M Breen, D Quinn; D McCormack, Patrick Maher, J Forde (1-05); N McGrath (0-02), C Kenny (0-03), J McGrath (0-07, 5f). [/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Subs: D Fitzelle (0-01) for Patrick Maher (47), J Gallagher for Breen (58), J O Dwyer (0-03) for McCormack (58), J Meagher for B Maher (66), L Ryan for Quinn (67).[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]DUBLIN: C Dooley; J Boland, E O Donnell, O Gough; C O Callaghan, C Crummy, S Barrett; N McMorrow (0-02), J McCaffrey; D Plunkett (0-01), E Dillon (0-01), D Treacy (0-03f); D O Callaghan (0-01), P Ryan (0-01f), M Schutte (0-01).[/font]
[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Subs: C Cronin (0-01) for Ryan (h.t.), D O Connell (0-01) for Plunkett (48), O O Rorke for O Callaghan (59), F McGibb for McCaffrey (63)[/font]

Mantis Toboggan · 13-02-2016 10:45pm

Nice little cameo from bubbles

kala85 · 13-02-2016 10:46pm

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Crazy decision to kick it long from the kick out after kicking it short all game. All they had to do is win possession. Bizarre

Thought the exact same myself. Maybe goal keeper was afraid of a turnover close to the goal.
Having said that midfield should have done more to win it.

Clonmel1000 · 13-02-2016 10:58pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

FULL TIME = Tipperary 1-23 Dublin 0-12

Not much learned tonight - will find out a whole lot next week...

Hope he tries a few new heads...

How do you mean a few new heads?

He tried Hamill Quinn and Mca orma k from the start and introduced Fitzell and Liam Ryan. We learned that we are a lot better than when we got comprehensively beaten 12 months ago by the dubs.

evolving tipperary · 13-02-2016 11:09pm

I mean a few new heads. Keep trying lads - there are more lads there. John [font=Roboto, sans-serif]Meagher, Fitzelle from the beginning (Dublin well beat by the time they came on), Barry Heffernan, Steven O'Brien - keep blooding them - keep introducing more - especially against Kilkenny. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin are not a good team - we didn't learn anything. KK is more of a test and, yet, it is very early in the year. But, it will be a good test of lads psychology and resolve = particularly, the new lads. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin beat us last year in the league and went nowhere afterwards in the championship... - and, they won't do much better this year especially when losing players of the calibre of Sutcliffe. [/font]

Clonmel1000 · 14-02-2016 12:03am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I mean a few new heads. Keep trying lads - there are more lads there. John [font=Roboto, sans-serif]Meagher, Fitzelle from the beginning (Dublin well beat by the time they came on), Barry Heffernan, Steven O'Brien - keep blooding them - keep introducing more - especially against Kilkenny. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin are not a good team - we didn't learn anything. KK is more of a test and, yet, it is very early in the year. But, it will be a good test of lads psychology and resolve = particularly, the new lads. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin beat us last year in the league and went nowhere afterwards in the championship... - and, they won't do much better this year especially when losing players of the calibre of Sutcliffe. [/font]

You cant try to many lads introducing 3 or 4 per game is maximum really which is what happened tonight. I thought we learned plenty for a night in Feb. Were you at the game?

14-02-2016 12:11am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

FULL TIME = Tipperary 1-23 Dublin 0-12

Not much learned tonight - will find out a whole lot next week...

Hope he tries a few new heads...

I'm looking forward to next week to be honest. I think we can get a win. Granted Dublin were no test but that's not our fault. We approached the game with the correct attitude tonight. We worked hard and put ourselves about.

14-02-2016 12:28am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

You cant try to many lads introducing 3 or 4 per game is maximum really which is what happened tonight. I thought we learned plenty for a night in Feb. Were you at the game?

I cant imagine we'll experiment too much next week. Kenny will get a chance possibly against Joey Holden who to be honest id be asking serious questions of. He's no JJ Delaney or Noel Hickey

If Fennelly is still out then the Young Cody deputises for Buckley who in turn goes midfield. So we need to test him also. Maybe put Bonnar on him or Noelie? Even try Bubbles? If Fennelly returns should we go with Breens strength against him?

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2016 12:30am

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Nice little cameo from bubbles

The man is sheer class - we might have consider Bubbles or Seamie as a corrective to our center forward issues... - unless one of the new faces can put in a serious shift there throughout the league...

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2016 12:36am

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I mean a few new heads. Keep trying lads - there are more lads there. John [font=Roboto, sans-serif]Meagher, Fitzelle from the beginning (Dublin well beat by the time they came on), Barry Heffernan, Steven O'Brien - keep blooding them - keep introducing more - especially against Kilkenny. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin are not a good team - we didn't learn anything. KK is more of a test and, yet, it is very early in the year. But, it will be a good test of lads psychology and resolve = particularly, the new lads. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin beat us last year in the league and went nowhere afterwards in the championship... - and, they won't do much better this year especially when losing players of the calibre of Sutcliffe. [/font]

You cant try to many lads introducing 3 or 4 per game is maximum really which is what happened tonight. I thought we learned plenty for a night in Feb. Were you at the game?

Listen, if anything has been proved its the league is the league is the league - and the early rounds are crazy stuff.
I seen it on TV,..

We won't have learned much. . - simply because the opposition was very very weak.

I'm not saying we have to pick more than 4 new lads - if anything tonight was the night to try more than four against a weaker opposition - I'm just saying pick four different heads - I'd like to see John Meagher, O'Brien, Heffernan and Liam McGrath get 70 against KK, And, in fairness, I'd like to see Hamill get 70 at full back again against KK

The KK test is fair better barometer than the first league outing against Dublin...

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2016 12:37am

Deleted User wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

FULL TIME = Tipperary 1-23 Dublin 0-12

Not much learned tonight - will find out a whole lot next week...

Hope he tries a few new heads...

I'm looking forward to next week to be honest. I think we can get a win. Granted Dublin were no test but that's not our fault. We approached the game with the correct attitude tonight. We worked hard and put ourselves about.

True 0 I'm looking forward to it - big time. KK is KK - that's the test.

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2016 12:39am

Deleted User wrote: »

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

You cant try to many lads introducing 3 or 4 per game is maximum really which is what happened tonight. I thought we learned plenty for a night in Feb. Were you at the game?

I cant imagine we'll experiment too much next week. Kenny will get a chance possibly against Joey Holden who to be honest id be asking serious questions of. He's no JJ Delaney or Noel Hickey

If Fennelly is still out then the Young Cody deputises for Buckley who in turn goes midfield. So we need to test him also. Maybe put Bonnar on him or Noelie? Even try Bubbles? If Fennelly returns should we go with Breens strength against him?

I'd ike to see Breen go on Fennelly- maybe, even Meagher. Personally, I'd love to see Bonner put on Fennelly - i think he has the pace,strength, and engine - and the onus to score is taken away from him. I think he can do a real job on Fennelly.

14-02-2016 12:54am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

I mean a few new heads. Keep trying lads - there are more lads there. John [font=Roboto, sans-serif]Meagher, Fitzelle from the beginning (Dublin well beat by the time they came on), Barry Heffernan, Steven O'Brien - keep blooding them - keep introducing more - especially against Kilkenny. [/font]

Steven O'brien is injured and Seamus Kennedy was involved today as we already know. Meagher is currently involved in Fitzgibbon and given his injury history its better not to run the man into the ground. Barry Heffernan is with UL in Fitzgibbon also. FWIW i agree with you although they are going into a bear pit next week. A real test of our resolve.

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin are not a good team - we didn't learn anything. KK is more of a test and, yet, it is very early in the year. But, it will be a good test of lads psychology and resolve = particularly, the new lads. [/font]

[font=Roboto, sans-serif]Dublin beat us last year in the league and went nowhere afterwards in the championship... - and, they won't do much better this year especially when losing players of the calibre of Sutcliffe. [/font]

Dublin were piss poor tonight but im guessing that Cunningham hasnt been received the same way as Daly.

Dublin took hidings under Daly but you got he sense they believed in him fully. They absolutely loved him up there. he's only good to a point if you ask me. im sure he builds great rapport with lads and got as much as he could out of them but he is all about fitness and nothing about stick work. Not sure what Cunningham is about.

I think they'll drop this year. Paul Ryan aside i cannot sense there is much quality to pick from. Is Keaney still involved? Given the riches at their disposal at sponsorship level they have had no one to challenge the likes of Dotsy o'Callaghan or Keaney for places on the team and their young prodigy just walked off the panel.

No real barometer for Tipp tonight.......Next week should be interesting though.

14-02-2016 1:40am

evolving tipperary wrote: »

The man is sheer class - we might have consider Bubbles or Seamie as a corrective to our center forward issues... - unless one of the new faces can put in a serious shift there throughout the league...

A very Eoin-esque point over the shoulder. What a talent!

Xenophile · 14-02-2016 8:16am

Mushy wrote: »

Ah sure, beat the Dubs in a proper sport now

Well done Commercials ye have provided inspiration for those who prefer to play football over hurling. Keep it going and Tipperary will attract more young talented footballers from all over the county!

14-02-2016 12:06pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Well done Commercials ye have provided inspiration for those who prefer to play football over hurling. Keep it going and Tipperary will attract more young talented footballers from all over the county!

I don't think its a flash in the pan either, Commercials have the talent and youth to become a regular fixture in this competition.

evolving tipperary · 14-02-2016 1:20pm

There were times when Clonmel opened up that they looked a really cultured footballing outfit - great future for the club going forward.

evolving tipperary · 16-02-2016 8:39pm

County first round draws in the following competitions
The football league begins on Sunday the 28th of February

County Senior Hurling Championship First Rd Draws 2016
Roinn 1. 4 Groups of 4 4
Group 1
Drom and Inch v Upperchurch Drombane
Killenaule v J K Brackens
Group 2
Thurles Sarsfields v Borris Ileigh
Eire Og Annacarty v Roscrea
Group 3
Eire Og Nenagh v Kiladangan
Mullinahone v Templederry Kenyons
Group 4
Clonoulty Rossmore v Kilruane MacDonaghs
Portroe v Lorrha Dorrha
Roinn 2. Groups of 2 4 and 2 3
Group 1
Burgess v Moyne Templetuohy
Holycross Ballycahill v Toomevara
Group 2
Moneygall v Carrick Swans
Moycarkey Borris Bye
Group 3
Loughmore Castleiney v Borrisokane
Knockaville Kickhams Bye
Group 4
Ballingarry v Clonakenny
Ballina v SilverminesCounty Senior Football Championship First Rd Draws 2016
4 Groups. 4 4
Group 1
Cahir v Upperchurch Drombane
Arravale Rovers v Kilsheelan Kilcash
Group 2
Killenaule v Clonmel Commercials
J K Brackens v Ballyporeen
Group 3
Eire Og Anacarty v Thomas MacDonaghs
Loughmore Castleiney v Galtee Rovers
Group 4
Ardfinnan v Drom and Inch
Aherlow Gaels v Moyle RoversCounty Intermediate Hurling Championship First Rd Draws 2016
6 Groups of 3 4 3 3
Group 1
Boherlahan Dualla v Moyle Rovers
Sean Treacys v Arravale Rovers
Group 2
Rockwell Rovers v St Marys
Cappawhite v Roscrea
Group 3
Galtee Rovers v Moycarkey Borris
Lattin Cullen Gaels Bye
Group 4
Carrick Davins v Gortnahoe Glengoole
Thurles Sarsfields Bye
Group 5
Cashel King Cormacs v Ballinahinch
Shannon Rovers
Group 6
Newport v Drom and Inch
Golden Kilfeacle v Kilsheelan KilcashCounty Senior Hurling Challenge Cup First Rd Draws
Burgess v Ballina
Kilruane MacDonaghs v Portroe
Carrick Swans v Holycross Ballycahill
Lorrha Dorrha v Moyne Templetuohy
Ballingarry v Eire Og Annacarty
Templederry Kenyons v Eire Og Nenagh
J K Brackens v Thurles Sarsfields
Moneygall v Drom and Inch
Clonakenny v Clonoulty Rossmore
Roscrea v Killenaule
Mullinahone v Borrisokane
Toomevara v Moycarkey Borris
Upperchurch Drombane v Loughmore Castleiney
Silvermines v Kiladangan
Borris Ileigh v Knockaville KickhamsCounty Intermediate Hurling League First Rd Draws
2 5 and 2 4
Top team in each group into semi final
Group 1
Moyle Rovers v Carrick Davins
Cashel King Cormacs v Kilsheelan Kilcash
Group 2
Golden Kilfeacle v Clonoulty Rossmore
Gortnahoe Glengoole v Moycarkey Borris
Group 3
St Marys v Rockwell Rovers
Galtee Rovers v St Patricks
Roscrea Bye
Group 4
Ballinahinch v Boherlahan Dualla
Sean Treacys v Lattin Cullen Gaels
Cappawhite ByeCounty Junior Hurling League First Rd Draws
2 5
Top two teams in each group into semi finals
Group 1
Marlfield v Boherlahan Dualla
Grangemockler Ballyneale v Cappawhite
Clerihan Bye
Group 2
Ballylooby Castlegrace v Knockavilla Kickhams
Toomevara v Cahir
Clonmel Og ByeCounty Adult Football League First Rd Draws
Premier Division
2 5 with top 2 in each group into semi finals
Group 1
Clonmel Commercials v Cahir
Kilsheelan Kilcash v Aherlow Gaels
Ardfinnan Bye
Group 2
J K Brackens v Moyle Rovers
Galtee Rovers v Eire Og Annacarty
Arravale Rovers Bye
Division 1
Group of 4 with top 2 into Final
Rockwell Rovers v Ballylooby Castlegrace
Clonmel Og v Loughmore Castleiney
Division 2
Group of 3 with top 2 into Final
Clerihan v Cappawhite
Newport ByeMinor Football League
Group of 4 with top 2 into Final
Arravale Rovers v Cahir
Clonmel Commercials v Kilsheelan Kilcash

PlayByTheRules · 17-02-2016 10:32am

Any Tipp lads know if Seamus Callanan will be back for the Kilkenny game? I'd give ye a good chance against them as their fitness levels looked very off against Waterford and that doesn't get fixed in 1 week. I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Fennelly was drafted in by them though, they looked soft in midfield the last day.

17-02-2016 7:59pm

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

Any Tipp lads know if Seamus Callanan will be back for the Kilkenny game? I'd give ye a good chance against them as their fitness levels looked very off against Waterford and that doesn't get fixed in 1 week. I wouldn't be surprised if Michael Fennelly was drafted in by them though, they looked soft in midfield the last day.

It might be no harm to let Callanan rest a bit and give Kenny his chance on Sunday anyway.

Kenny needs to test himself further if we are to find out if he has a future at intercounty and there is no stiffer test then Paul Murphy and Joey Holden who will no doubt offer him a kind welcome to the big time

The problem with the league is that player development could now be sacrificed for getting points on the board and securing safety.

evolving tipperary · 18-02-2016 12:32am

The only way Kenny and et al will acclimatise to the pace of the KK and Waterford world (that swarming defence and excellent defensive play) is by playing against it regularly and getting that experience....

OAOB · 18-02-2016 9:51am

Be cautious about putting too much weight on league performances, I remember redser scoring 0-7 off Noel Hickey in the league but that meant feck all later in the year when they met in the important games.
Regardless of whether Kenny does good or bad this weekend his intercounty potential will not be properly examined until the league semi finals at the earliest

18-02-2016 7:44pm

OAOB wrote: »

Be cautious about putting too much weight on league performances, I remember redser scoring 0-7 off Noel Hickey in the league but that meant feck all later in the year when they met in the important games.
Regardless of whether Kenny does good or bad this weekend his intercounty potential will not be properly examined until the league semi finals at the earliest

That's very true. At least Redser had some form of Tipp career. I quite liked him as a player tbh. Great fielder and was a great character by all accounts. I felt his role in the league final of that year was underestimated. Hickey followed him all over the field and it created quite a bit of space for Lar to run into. 2003 he didnt even start against Kilkenny.

Danny o'Hanlon from the Swan also roasted Noel Hickey in 2007 and was another enigma whose career was over before it started.

evolving tipperary · 18-02-2016 7:46pm

That's very true but if he can't do it in the league...he won't do it in champioship. It's a long road for Kenny - he won't shoot the lights out in the championship yet - I think. But, performing in the league this year will be a movement forward for him - and over the next few years he can get better and better like the rest of the players such as Forde and Niall O'Meara. Not many players take to championship in their first or secod year - only the special ones. Or lads who burn brightly at first then fade away... - But, yeah, if kenny wins a couples of balls ad scores a couple of points from play and birngs a few players into the game - that's a success - improvement, in terms of development. Then he can seek to add championship experience and hope to build on that over the years... - he's young - but he hurled in Kildare and has been adopting to Tipp club championship and intercounty in a short space of time. Tipp just need to show patience with him - he has got the tools to be a success in my estimation

evolving tipperary · 19-02-2016 3:29pm

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Kilkenny's former All-Ireland-winning captain Eddie O Connor has openly questioned Tipperary s bottle ahead of Sunday s Allianz Hurling League Division 1A crunch between the counties at Nowlan Park.[/font]

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2016/0218/769221-oconnor-tipp-dont-have-the-bottle-to-beat-cats/ [/font]

Xenophile · 19-02-2016 5:46pm

This link should work !

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2016/0218/769221-oconnor-tipp-dont-have-the-bottle-to-beat-cats/

19-02-2016 9:22pm

Xenophile wrote: »

This link should work !

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/hurling/2016/0218/769221-oconnor-tipp-dont-have-the-bottle-to-beat-cats/

Cheers I read that today, what a clown that man is. A total and utter bell end!

19-02-2016 9:32pm

If only someone could dig up Eddies appearance on hot milk and pepper from 1995 we would witness the level of idiot we are dealing with here.

Tipp thumped Kilkenny in last years league and one thing I'll say is that any team Michael Ryan will be in charge of will be a mirror version of himself with bottle in abundance

blackcard · 19-02-2016 9:37pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Cheers I read that today, what a clown that man is. A total and utter bell end!

Eddie is Kilkenny's version of Babs Keating, no one takes him seriously

19-02-2016 11:53pm

Same fifteen for Sunday. Interesting to see how we get on.

1. Darren Gleeson – Portroe
2. Cathal Barrett – Holycross-Ballycahill
3. Tomás Hamill – Moyne-Templetuohy
4. Michael Cahill – Thurles Sarsfields
5. Brendan Maher (Capt.) – Borris Ileigh
6. James Barry – Upperchurch-Drombane
7. Padraic Maher – Thurles Sarsfields
8. Michael Breen – Ballina
9. Daire Quinn – Nenagh Éire Óg
10. Dan McCormack – Borris-Ileigh
11. Patrick Maher – Lorrha-Dorrha
12. Jason Forde – Silvermines
13. Noel McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney
14. Conor Kenny – Borris-Ileigh
15. John McGrath – Loughmore-Castleiney

evolving tipperary · 20-02-2016 2:39am

[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Kilkenny[/font]

[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]1. Eoin Murphy (Glenmore)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]2. Paul Murphy (Danesfort)
3. Joey Holden (Ballyhale Shamrocks)
4. Shane Prendergast (Clara)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]5. Padraig Walsh (Tullaroan)
6. Robert Lennon (Bennettsbridge)
7. Diarmuid Cody (James Stephens)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]8. Lester Ryan (Clara)
9. Conor Fogarty (Erins Own)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]10. Colin Fennelly (Ballyhale Shamrocks)
11. TJ Reid (Ballyhale Shamrocks)
12. James Maher (St Lachtains)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]13. Walter Walsh (Tullogher Rosbercon)
14. Kevin Kelly (St Patrick s)
15. Richie Hogan (Danesfort)[/font]

evolving tipperary · 20-02-2016 2:43am

Subs:
16. Darragh Mooney ire g Anacarty
17. Dylan Fitzelle Cashel King Cormacs
18. Joe Gallagher Kiladangan
19. Ronan Maher Thurles Sarsfields
20. John Meagher Loughmore-Castleiney
21. Conor O Brien ire g Anacarty
22. John O Dwyer Killenaule
23. Niall O Meara Kilruane MacDonaghs
24. Liam Ryan Drom & Inch
25. Sean Ryan Sean Treacy s
26. Willie Ryan Clonakenny

20-02-2016 12:34pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Kilkenny[/font]

[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]1. Eoin Murphy (Glenmore)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]2. Paul Murphy (Danesfort)
3. Joey Holden (Ballyhale Shamrocks)
4. Shane Prendergast (Clara)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]5. Padraig Walsh (Tullaroan)
6. Robert Lennon (Bennettsbridge)
7. Diarmuid Cody (James Stephens)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]8. Lester Ryan (Clara)
9. Conor Fogarty (Erins Own)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]10. Colin Fennelly (Ballyhale Shamrocks)
11. TJ Reid (Ballyhale Shamrocks)
12. James Maher (St Lachtains)[/font]
[font=Georgia, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]13. Walter Walsh (Tullogher Rosbercon)
14. Kevin Kelly (St Patrick s)
15. Richie Hogan (Danesfort)[/font]

Strong team named. Lennon, Cody, and Kelly aside we are up against a lot of experience. Its by no way on a plate as O'Connor stated. Work rate will be crucial. Do we have enough power in the middle of the field? Breen yes but Quinn is very small

evolving tipperary · 21-02-2016 1:55am

Deleted User wrote: »

Strong team named. Lennon, Cody, and Kelly aside we are up against a lot of experience. Its by no way on a plate as O'Connor stated. Work rate will be crucial. Do we have enough power in the middle of the field? Breen yes but Quinn is very small

Quinn can usually give it and take it - but, he's is operation in a different league now and in the lion's den. Will find out a bit about him tomorrow. Kilkenny haven't a whole pile done yet - but, they're still a class outfit - missingl some key players though...

evolving tipperary · 21-02-2016 2:01am

I'd like to see Kenny and Fitzelle or O'Meara spend some time on the wings tomorrow too... - I still say Forde is an inside forward. All his scores came from running on to loose ball the last day - you don't get too many opportunities to run onto to loose ball at the business end of championship.

If we get the ball to Forde's hands he will deliver - but, the problem (as we all know) is getting the ball into bubbles, callinan, and forde often enough...

Mushy · 21-02-2016 3:02pm

That would've been a lovely start

Mushy · 21-02-2016 4:02pm

Need to finish these goal chances, its costing big time

Mushy · 21-02-2016 4:31pm

No surprises, miss goals and you won't win the game. Typical!

evolving tipperary · 21-02-2016 5:18pm

Tough conditions - but, our use of the ball needs to be better. Passing was poor - and, just our general play in terms of opening up the opposition was not as good as Kilkenny's threat. They played neater more economical hurling in the half-line areas of the field. But, we had a chances for goals...

Early days - long way to go yet. Kilkenny responded well to their defeat - let's see how we respond...

1eg0a3xv7b82of · 21-02-2016 5:58pm

that was a big loss, another defeat to kk. No positives to take from the game.
A win today was more important than actually winning the league.
Disappointed with the more experienced players, showed a real lack of leadership in last 10 minutes.

21-02-2016 6:13pm

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Tough conditions - but, our use of the ball needs to be better. Passing was poor - and, just our general play in terms of opening up the opposition was not as good as Kilkenny's threat. They played neater more economical hurling in the half-line areas of the field. But, we had a chances for goals...

Early days - long way to go yet. Kilkenny responded well to their defeat - let's see how we respond...

A fair assessment ET. Discipline today for me was the big bug bear. We gave away countless needless frees in front of the posts and in truth Paudie should have got the line for that high tackle in the first half. While not deliberate it was clumsy and dangerous.

Overall while not being too despondent, i'm disappointed with the nature of the collapse. Id have been relatively happy with a one point defeat if we were to be beaten but we fell asunder at a crucial stage and while we weren't firing on all cylinders we had battled hard enough for 65 minutes. Our marking could have been tighter throughout too. I cant imagine Waterford gave Kilkenny's forwards that room last Sunday. On the newbies, I dont think Kenny offered anything aside of his two points from loose play and McCormack even less. I thought Daire Quinn gave a good account of himself though.

I think we may see John Meagher in a fortnight vs the Decie in that fullback role and Mikey Breen may drop back to half also with Brendan going midfield. Hoping Callanan and Forde are back too. Bonnar while such a great warrior, lacks that killer instinct in front of goal.

Our touch was lacking big time even with the likes of Bubbles and its fair to say that will improve as conditions improve and the year goes on.

Overall our panel lacks depth as the absence of Callanan and Forde proved.

Big big game next day out. Lose and we're in a dog fight. As well as that Waterford are improving and have a very very physical element in their game. Everyone including myself assumed Dublin would be the cannon fodder but they had a very good win minus alot of their regulars last night.

evolving tipperary · 21-02-2016 6:31pm

I saw plenty of positives - always disappointing to lose especially when we looked like we could nip it. But, it was very close game throughout. And, lots of young lads stuck it out well....

Our pressure is the first half was good - but we drifted in terms of fitness in the second hal f- that will get better throughout the year....

I think Quinn was okay - tired a lot in the second half and his distribution was lacking at times. Dan was not good - I thought Kenny offered a good account I wouldn't have taken him off first - I would have liked to see him on the wing for a while. I thought Joh McGrath was a positive... - I thought Hamill did well - and would like to see him there again...
I think the decisive move was bringing on Farrell onto Barrett - Farrell distracted him with some roughhousing. And, he got away with a wild pull in the small rectangle - and while, Barrett was still recovering from that - the goal happened. And, then the next...

Who was marking James Maher... the less said the better...

We've a lot of changes to the team - ad it will take a while for them to gel - particularly in midfield and half forward - as where that is where a lot of moves broke down... - the sooner a combination is found the better - I wonder if Bergin will feature there...

I don't think Paudie will play as badly again this year - woeful. Bonner too - looked like he is still a bit away from fitness...
I think Paudie Maher thinks beating KK involves actually beating them up rather than having composure on the ball - picking the right pass and marking tightly. One pass in the second half fom him was beyond wild - right across the field to a KK player...

I don't think this result will make or break our year - but, the reaction and subsequent results will be important. I think Waterford are well ahead of us in preparation and take this competition as serious as championship - Tipp, KK, and Galway try to peak for August....- Waterford might pay a price for that yet - in terms of injuries like last year - also, it's very difficult to hold form all year round. But, I think we will find it hard to break Waterford down and beat them considering where our interplay and fitness is at the moment... - There are not many teams out there making as many changes as we are due to a series of retirements and what have yous ....

21-02-2016 6:35pm

Yara Plain Gin wrote: »

that was a big loss, another defeat to kk. No positives to take from the game.
A win today was more important than actually winning the league.
Disappointed with the more experienced players, showed a real lack of leadership in last 10 minutes.

Ill have to admit i am absolutely sick of what is seemingly becoming an annual walk of shame from the stadium back to the car up at Eurospar while there is opposition fans alley-ooping and cheering going on in the background. At least we got a respite from it in Semple last year.

And it would be one thing if we were miles off the pace of them but we are losing by little things, some of which we really should be improving on at this stage.

Overall the strongest fifteen for each team is very even but they have the better panel of players. Who would have heard of Robert Lennon, James Maher prior to this weekend? We were told that their talent pool is drying up and yet there is two sterling performances from both of them today alongside Kevin Kelly. In Cody they have a man who can squeeze that 10-15% extra out of any player. We have plenty of highly rated youngsters who come to nothing

1eg0a3xv7b82of · 21-02-2016 7:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Ill have to admit i am absolutely sick of what is seemingly becoming an annual walk of shame from the stadium back to the car up at Eurospar while there is opposition fans alley-ooping and cheering going on in the background. At least we got a respite from it in Semple last year.

And it would be one thing if we were miles off the pace of them but we are losing by little things, some of which we really should be improving on at this stage.

Overall the strongest fifteen for each team is very even but they have the better panel of players. Who would have heard of Robert Lennon, James Maher prior to this weekend? We were told that their talent pool is drying up and yet there is two sterling performances from both of them today alongside Kevin Kelly. In Cody they have a man who can squeeze that 10-15% extra out of any player. We have plenty of highly rated youngsters who come to nothing

Lets not sugar coat it, Ryan will be raging after that. It leaves him in a tough spot.
Its not so much the new guys but the experienced guys. Its very easy become conditioned and it seems some of our guys have been.

I dont believe we hammer dublin last week we are brilliant, lose to KK today we are useless. I am not saying that.
But you can be sure Ryan had that game today as the main target achievement of the League.
Tipps dreadful record against KK not only boosts KK players but also other opponents who see that record as a sign that Tipp fold under pressure.

Ryan could have to make more changes to rebuild Tipp than we all expected.

21-02-2016 7:38pm

We are to be fair judging Tipp on February 21st minus a few players through injury or retirement so while its not nice to lose, at the same time i feel that we'll be involved in the leagues latter stages. I would worry that there is a deficit of goal scoring forwards coming through as seen by Callanan's absence. from the psychological point of view i would doubt that today will even enter the players minds if we play KK during the summer but it leaves alot to work on. Michael strikes me as a pragmatic type though who will look at addressing the arising issues from today.

The colleges competitions are coming to conclusion so we may see Stephen O'Brien, Barry Heffernan, Seamus Kennedy and John Meagher come into contention yet.

I heard that Denis Maher who is a good ball winner will be called back but is been given time to recover from his injuries.

Id like to see Tadhg Gallagher get a run because he is fast and runs at the opposition. Good sticksman too. If Mark McCarthy was shot of his injuries he would be worth a look at or Jack Shelley. No Fitzelle today after his terrific point last week.

Overall, its not ideal to lose because a win or a draw would have been a perfect tonic but there is no reason why we cant sit down, analyse our performance and where we need to improve and rectify it.

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 12:50pm

The Tipperary Official Website is an insult to Tipperary Footballers, it gives a lovely bit of publicity to the hurling panel with their photos ( even though it is not accurate, I pointed out last week that a player who played against Kilkenny was not even listed on the panel)

No football panel listed !

Now at 11.46 on Friday it has not given the football team to play Westmeath on Sunday !

Support The Friends of Tipperary Football or your local football club, as when it comes to football the County Board does not deserve your support !

The Lost Sheep · 26-02-2016 1:17pm

Xenophile wrote: »

The Tipperary Official Website is an insult to Tipperary Footballers, it gives a lovely bit of publicity to the hurling panel with their photos (even though it is not accurate, I pointed out last week that a player who played against Kilkenny was not even listed on the panel)

No football panel listed!

Now at 11.46 on Friday it has not given the football team to play Westmeath on Sunday

Support The Friends of Tipperary Football or your local football club, as when it comes to football the County Board does not deserve your support !

Have you contacted the county board to express your displeasure with their coverage of gaelic?
To say its an insult is OTT. A player may not always be part of the main squad to be involved in a game in league/championship. Could get called up for game depending on injuries/need.

Xenophile · 26-02-2016 1:42pm

Is Semple Stadium fit for purpose when there is a big match day, especially so on a day involving a double header.

I am referring in particular to the Old Stand area, bar open early, massive queues for the toilets, no stewarding around same. Pickpockets prying especially on the elderly. I wonder if there ever are any health and safety checks carried out !

The Lost Sheep · 26-02-2016 1:50pm

Xeno. I contacted county board. Team not named until tomorrow

Mantis Toboggan · 26-02-2016 2:42pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Is Semple Stadium fit for purpose when there is a big match day, especially so on a day involving a double header.

I am referring in particular to the Old Stand area, bar open early, massive queues for the toilets, no stewarding around same. Pickpockets prying especially on the elderly.

Probably not, those pickpockets are a nuisance in Thurles, think we should move the double headers to ardfinnan in future.

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