Kerry GAA discussion thread #2

Agree with this.

We need an inside forward to compliment Clifford, someone quick and explosive like Con O'C or James O'D would be perfect.

We seem to have plenty of backs.

Interesting idea to move Gavin White in to half forwards. Graham O'Sullivan can play half back, Mike Breen also.

Shane Ryan seems like a safe pair of hands for 6 years at least.

We should hit the big 40 with the current crop hopefully.

If Killian Spillane or Tony Brosnan were the answer, they'd already be starting.

Went to buy a ticket for the ladies final on Sunday. Only tickets showing are in the upper deck of the cusack and no Hill tickets. Seems mental to have the hill closed when it's the one place that might generate some atmosphere

I've no interest in going to a soulless upper tier. Seems like an own goal by the LGFA

I agree about people getting carried away.

Just let him play his game and we can discuss his place on the pantheon with the greats after he retires.

I hope he stays injury free and ends with at least 5 AI medals.

He is a completey unique talent though. I've never seen such agility and skill combined with physicality.

I agree also about Shane Ryan. Hopefully he's our settled number 1 now for 6 years at least. We've been changing keepers too much

Players are getting better and improving all time is because they are being coached different at a young age, IE to get that other peg working, the big rave about David Clifford is he can kick off both feet seemingly you will never get to play County now unless you can kick with both feet, it's all gone very measured now passes have to be so precise and fitness and strength and conditioned to the last, for me it's not great to watch its gone a bit like rugby and in to attacking phases the only difference between them is there is no offside in GAA. We played very much like Dublin the last day, ticking away till the 65 minute and going hard for last 10, that's what Dublin was excellent at.

Tyrone invented modern football in the 00s and Dublin perfected it.

Its about sweepers and a mobile middle eight and a forward line of just two finishers.

It's about hardworking half forwards who track back.

It's about protecting the D.

Its about keeping possession and working the ball to your sharp shooters. Using the width of the pitch to stretch defences and open gaps.

It's about a kick out strategy, both long and short.

There's some variability such as Kerry kick more and some teams use a more running game. I think we'll be utilising the offensive mark on Clifford for a long while. He's a mighty fielder.

I quite enjoy modern football. Much more tactical complexity to discuss afterwards. Up to the early 00s Kerry were playing man to man, catch and kick football. Long kickouts. Midfielders contesting.

Donegal invented the very defensive counter-attacking approach which is still effective.

I'm not sure what the next tactical innovation will be.

I'm surprised more teams aren't using a Donaghy like target man for the offensive mark. You could just lamp the ball in from the half way line for an easy score.

Jack O'Connor is a known proponent of the diagonal ball into forward line.

Is this because it's easier for the forward to read the trajectory and attack the ball, as opposed to a vertical pass from the middle of the field?

On the Mayo front, it's a well tried and failed system at this stage. Put the big man in and fail to kick the ball into him because our game is predominantly built on running with the ball from deep.

Rather than being a positive for us, it was often a negative (Vs Dublin for example)... You actually give teams huge boosts every time they succeed/you fail with a long ball being pumped in. That's before you consider him winning a mark and missing a simple free.

Kerry do it regularly and have the players to do it and it forms part of a plan / style throughout the year. For us, there was always a sense of desperation about employing the tactic. Always left for a big game or moments of panic.

Wasn't a 45 iirc, the ref played advantage and then gave a free for an incident that happened before the ball was kicked in (was closer to 55 out) which I thought was strange. It would have been more advantageous to have given the 45.

But maybe my understanding of the rules is lacking. Advantage may end when the ball goes out of play.

Well did you enjoy yourself last night Titanium

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Lord God did we enjoy ourselves. Twas an outstanding night. And ito the not so wee hours of this morning aswell. Suffering today. That video misses the massive crowd below in the square. Thousands and thousands at it. A great turn out and fair play to the lads great speeches and we're around the town signing kids jerseys etc for hours and hours. Dingle tonight I think

How are the likes of Paul Walsh and Donal O Sullivan doing nowadays? Think O Sullivan was playing Sigerson last year and was around the panel. Both were decent at minor level

Just in Kerry.

Mark Ryan have potential around midfield?

It turns out the only previous countrywide example was Des Foley of Dublin (1958 and 1963).

Also, seems there were 6 Churchill players on the St Brendan's team that won the county minor hurling title, which, along with Kilgarvan in the intermediate decider, is a welcome broadening of the hurling base in the county.

Best of luck to the ladies today. Up against it but I'm sure they'll make us proud.