Dacia new models 2020/2021

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Modern day incarnation of this cart of crap

The difference is the Dacia is in a whole different league compared to that other piece of crap.

The Dacia will actually be a nice car and is designed well. That other yoke was as you say a pos.

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Of course it was, it had no components even vaguely related to a modern car.

One of them tried to kill me

92-2000 Corsa, Dacia is based on same era Clio

I think the Dacias look grand, except for the logan estate which looks a bit awkward. I can't remember the last time I saw a run of the mill priced car that looked good. Most manufacturers seem to have a Russian doll approach when it comes to styling.

Beep beep.ie saying no gas or petrol/gas cars registered new in 2020

BrianD3 wrote: »

Still no mention of prices on dacia.ie and no mention of the new car in the product range section. There is an easily missed link to a virtual showroom which mentions the new car but that link points to the Dacia UK site and UK prices.

In other countries, prices for the new car were published many weeks ago.

Yeah we're in lockdown but surely they can come up with something to promote it better than that. Or would they have stock of the old model that they'll be trying to offload once conditions allow and trying to deny the existence of the new one until that's completed.

There's probably still a load of Sanderos still in stock they'll want to Offload. That happened with the model that's out now. They probably won't appear here till around August anyway

That’s probably the VAT increase?
They gave the 2% off last year.

Kia have a lot more margin built into their RRP than Dacia though.

Trundelvagen wrote: »

The Dacia website says "we do things differently".

They certainly do. I see prices have risen by about €250 in the last month.

A strange way of trying to offload inferior superceded models when a much improved one is on the way.

If I was them, I'd be selling them off at cost price to get them out of the showrooms before the new model arrives.

VAT went back up from 21 to 23% on 1st of March

AMKC wrote: »

I think NCAPs time is up. Yes they have made cars safer and made car companies up there game on safety but saying a car is only a 2 star car because it has not got a whole load of electronics that could go wrong and go faulty is wrong. It should be about the strength and structure of the cars not about electronics that are doing something the driver should be doing anyway. No fof me Dacia are the car for the driver that prefers to do there own thinking and driving and not have some electronics do it for them.
It's a perfectly safe car a 4 star car never mind the other bul-sh-it.

Car A and B are alike in every respect, except car A has autonomous emergency braking fitted, and car B doesn’t. Car A can avoid a crash, or at least brake a fraction of a second quicker than a human can, and thus reduce the severity of any impact. Which one would you prefer your nearest and dearest to be travelling in tonight?

The only rational answer is car A, because it’s objectively safer. We all know this, and so do NCAP. This is why car A gets more stars.

I drove the new sandero yesterday, pretty much drives like the new clio. It's a lot nicer place to be than the old one. The lpg might be a bit of an inconvenience if there isn't a place to fill in your town but overall its a nice little car

Henry Ford III wrote: »

If it compares new cars available at a certain point in time to each other it's as good a safety as you'll get imho.

Dacia's are (relatively) cheap for several reasons.

Yes but depending on a model cycle you can have 2 current models that have been tested on different regimes.

That's the thing. Cars are so damn safe these days in an accident, there's really not much more that needs to be done. Where we are seeing a massive reduction in safety is with regards to user friendliness and functionality inside, with the en masse abandonment of physical buttons in lieu of touch screens, which are far more distracting to use in the real world, and make what used to be the simplest of tasks needlessly tedious and complex.

Its high time they tester how easy it is to do simple things like adjust the mirrors and the ease of use of the HVAC, radio and cruise control.

The other thing we're seeing a massive reduction is in the level of attention the driver needs to have when driving, we have so called driver aids which basically treats the driver like an idiot, admittedly how some people passed their test is beyond a mystery to me, and perhaps for such people this tech will help, but the vast majority of drivers decent enough but now were going to have drivers who need no skills at all, and that's going to lead to far more driver distraction and hence the reduction in accidents that these systems supposedly are claimed to do will never bear up in reality.

You won't have to worry about how fast you're going because the computer will limit your speed (unless you floor it), you won't have to worry about what lane you're in because the computer will make the steering wheel vibrate and force you back within the lines, you won't even have to worry about braking at low speeds because the car will do it for you. Just what is left for the driver to do at this point? If there's far less concentration required, then it's going to be much easier to be distracted, or else people will just ignore all the whining and beeping by the systems on the rare occasion they might actually be useful.

It's just absolute madness at this stage.

Any chance they’d bring their 7 seat yolk over here? Would sell well I’d say if the price was right.

colm_mcm wrote: »

Very popular as a taxi abroad alright.

If they priced it keenly I think it’d sell here. Look how many Citroen Picasso 7 seaters or Ford S Max’s are on the road.

Slightly off topic but similarly I think it’s mad that Renault stopped selling the Espace here considering how well the Galaxy, Albrahama and Sharan sell.

BrianD3 wrote: »

Another Dacia model has been spotted in camouflaged testing in RHD, it is thought that this is a replacement for the Logan MCV and/or the Dokker/Lodgy. Looks seriously practical. Wheel base long for the length of the car, more like the Mk1 Logan MCV (7 seater option) than the Mk2 (5 seat only)

https://www.motor1.com/news/504482/2022-dacia-logan-wagon-spy-photos/

Cool. Definitely one to watch.