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Dacia new models 2020/2021

BrianD3

I read on challenges.fr that the new Sandero is to be revealed next month with first deliveries in France towards the end of the year. The new car is said to be on a simplified Clio platform, not sure if it is the current Clio or the one launched in 2012. If the strength of the new Sandero body is similar to that of either Clio generation, it should result in a big improvement in safety.

I had a 201 Logan MCV on loan recenty, was quite impressed by it, the only aspect that was truly bad was ride comfort/body control on bog roads, it was bouncing and lurching very badly. Hopefully a new platform would improve that also.

In general, I like Dacia as a brand and wish they would expand their range here. They have already started offering dual fuel LPG cars. I know a few Eastern Europeans (of whom there are obviously a lot in this country) who cream themselves over both Dacia and LPG so to have both in the same car...:D

I'm just hoping that Dacia doesn't "do a Skoda" and move "upmarket", in fact I wish they would bring in the "poverty spec" versions that they sell in other countries but not here. i'd have no issue driving a car with unpainted bumpers, no aircon and even no radio - I find that I increasingly don't listen to the radio at all and my last two cars have had aircon/climate control which I almost never used.

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BrianD3

Brochure on dacia.fr, the 65 bhp engine petrol does 0-100 km/h in 16.7 seconds, the 100 bhp dual fuel is about 5 secs quicker than that.

The Access model (that we probably won't get) has no radio or aircon, it has LED lights and front electric windows and a radio preparation which I think is used with a smartphone. Access model only available with the 65 bhp engine.

colm_mcm

That smartphone setup is one of the most idiotic things I’ve seen on a car.

[Deleted User]

prices are available to download from dacia.de.
€8490 for base spec
€8890 for base spec plus body coloured bumpers, wheeltrims, DAB radio, cruise control, fog lamps, split rearseat and remote central locking.

The Gas powered versions seem to be an absolute bargain at only 100 euro more than the petrol turbo version with none of the disadvantages of a modern complicated diesel engine.
Autogas costs around half the price of Petrol(although a litre won't take you quite as far).

3 year warranty standard and extended service packages are really cheap.
The German review of the car which I watched mentioned that the Sandero has been the largest selling car bought privately in Europe for the last three years.

Cableless connection for Android to the audio system is unusual for this class of car.

I can see the hire companies in the airport buying these by the bucketload as there is both CVT and manual version available. Unlike the last one which was absolutely horrible you'll be happy enough to drive.

BrianD3

Getting very good reviews on Autocar and Autoexpress, described as a night and day improvement on the old car. The worst thing they can say about it is that it's not as refined as a Clio and can't be steered with the throttle like a Fiesta - as if the latter is a priority for buyers of 1.0 litre superminis

Any word on Irish pricing yet. We know it will be thousands cheaper than its competitors but just how much cheaper - plus the option of LPG which nobody else is offering.

Anyone thinking of ordering a new Fiesta, Clio, Yaris, Polo an existing model Sandero or weighing up petrol vs electric would do well to wait,

[Deleted User]

The Sandero is the What Car car of the year 2021.

For Forks Sake

Deleted User wrote: »

The Sandero is the What Car car of the year 2021.

AMKC

colm_mcm wrote: »

The new Logan saloon looks relatively decent.

That looks good alright

Deleted User wrote: »

Dacia Ireland should be selling the saloon as it would be popular with their target audience in Ireland but their marketing people see Ireland as Western Europe where people don't buy saloons.

I am sure if enough Irish people enquired or Dacia Ireland asked for it it could come here and do relatively well.

colm_mcm wrote: »

They don’t really buy saloons any more though.

The Corolla Saloon still sells well and so does the VW Passat saloon. The Renault Megane saloon does good still too. Not really much other choice unless you want a posh German saloon from the big 3 or a posh Japanese one from Lexus. That's it really
I think there would be a market for the Dacia saloon if they brought it here.

For Forks Sake

colm_mcm wrote: »

The new Logan saloon looks relatively decent.

Modern day incarnation of this cart of crap

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RandomViewer

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Modern day incarnation of this cart of crap

The Daewoo/Chevy was unbelievably reliable,

For Forks Sake

RandomViewer wrote: »

The Daewoo/Chevy was unbelievably reliable,

Of course it was, it had no components even vaguely related to a modern car.

One of them tried to kill me

AMKC

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Modern day incarnation of this cart of crap

The difference is the Dacia is in a whole different league compared to that other piece of crap.

The Dacia will actually be a nice car and is designed well. That other yoke was as you say a pos.

For Forks Sake

AMKC wrote: »

The difference is the Dacia is in a whole different league compared to that other piece of crap.

The Dacia will actually be a nice car and is designed well. That other yoke was as you say a pos.

Just configured one on Dacia.ro, haven't seen wheels (and they're the same ones in the press pic above, I upgraded them because I am a decadent Westerner) look as lost in the arches on a car since.....well the Chevy Aveo

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[Deleted User]

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Just configured one on Dacia.ro, haven't seen wheels (and they're the same ones in the press pic above, I upgraded them because I am a decadent Westerner) look as lost in the arches on a car since.....well the Chevy Aveo

I'd expect Romania to deliver with a higher ride height than western European countries. Many manufacturers do the same.

AMKC

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Just configured one on Dacia.ro, haven't seen wheels (and they're the same ones in the press pic above, I upgraded them because I am a decadent Westerner) look as lost in the arches on a car since.....well the Chevy Aveo

I think they look grand. Some room for suspension travel so it can offer a good ride.

RandomViewer

For Forks Sake wrote: »

Of course it was, it had no components even vaguely related to a modern car.

One of them tried to kill me

92-2000 Corsa, Dacia is based on same era Clio

colm_mcm

RandomViewer wrote: »

92-2000 Corsa, Dacia is based on same era Clio

Which Dacia is based on that era Clio?

Mervyn Skidmore

I think the Dacias look grand, except for the logan estate which looks a bit awkward. I can't remember the last time I saw a run of the mill priced car that looked good. Most manufacturers seem to have a Russian doll approach when it comes to styling.

AMKC

RandomViewer wrote: »

92-2000 Corsa, Dacia is based on same era Clio

You are right that the Sandero is based on an old Clio platform at least the last one anyway but not as old as that. I think it is the 2004 to 2011 Clio platform it was based on but could be wrong. I am sure someone in here more knowledgeable will know

zinca

Deleted User wrote: »

prices are available to download from dacia.de.
€8490 for base spec
€8890 for base spec plus body coloured bumpers, wheeltrims, DAB radio, cruise control, fog lamps, split rearseat and remote central locking.

The Gas powered versions seem to be an absolute bargain at only 100 euro more than the petrol turbo version with none of the disadvantages of a modern complicated diesel engine.
Autogas costs around half the price of Petrol(although a litre won't take you quite as far).

3 year warranty standard and extended service packages are really cheap.
The German review of the car which I watched mentioned that the Sandero has been the largest selling car bought privately in Europe for the last three years.

Cableless connection for Android to the audio system is unusual for this class of car.

I can see the hire companies in the airport buying these by the bucketload as there is both CVT and manual version available. Unlike the last one which was absolutely horrible you'll be happy enough to drive.

Is it possible to buy new Dacia with LPG in Ireland? Did you check it?

[Deleted User]

Don't know. Website FAQ says no.
https://www.dacia.ie/faq.html

Seeing as Ireland uses the same ACME connector as Germany rather than bowl connector I'd guess there is a tick box somewhere on the factory order form/BOM where the Dealer if they were motivated could tick for LPG but I doubt Dacia Ireland want the complication.
I'd see it as a huge marketing opportunity for Dacia Ireland but they probably won't seize it.
No LPG models, No EV models for Ireland.

zinca

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't know. Website FAQ says no.

Seeing as Ireland uses the same ACME connector as Germany rather than bowl connector I'd guess there is a tick box somewhere on the factory order form/BOM where the Dealer if they were motivated could tick for LPG but I doubt Dacia Ireland want the complication.
I'd see it as a huge marketing opportunity for Dacia Ireland but they probably won't seize it.
No LPG models, No EV models for Ireland.

Thanks. I knew it. Everything opposite in this country... I'd be happy to spend even €1000 more for LPG converted car than to keep this money in the bank.

AMKC

zinca wrote: »

Thanks. I knew it. Everything opposite in this country... I'd be happy to spend even €1000 more for LPG converted car than to keep this money in the bank.

Well go to Dacia and let them know you are interested then by both going online and going to a dealer if you can. The more interest the more changes they will bring them here.

zinca

AMKC wrote: »

Well go to Dacia and let them know you are interested then by both going online and going to a dealer if you can. The more interest the more changes they will bring them here.

will try

BrianD3

Still no mention of prices on dacia.ie and no mention of the new car in the product range section. There is an easily missed link to a virtual showroom which mentions the new car but that link points to the Dacia UK site and UK prices.

In other countries, prices for the new car were published many weeks ago.

Yeah we're in lockdown but surely they can come up with something to promote it better than that. Or would they have stock of the old model that they'll be trying to offload once conditions allow and trying to deny the existence of the new one until that's completed.

As for LPG, LPG versions of the old/current Sandero and prices were listed on dacia.ie a few months ago, I posted about it in this forum. Now I can't find any mention. Was the listing of LPG on dacia.ie an error, were they ever selling them here?

colm_mcm

Beep beep.ie saying no gas or petrol/gas cars registered new in 2020

[Deleted User]

The new Sandero doesn't have an exhaust back box.

https://youtu.be/viP1goy2bOQ?t=1446

PsychoPete

BrianD3 wrote: »

Still no mention of prices on dacia.ie and no mention of the new car in the product range section. There is an easily missed link to a virtual showroom which mentions the new car but that link points to the Dacia UK site and UK prices.

In other countries, prices for the new car were published many weeks ago.

Yeah we're in lockdown but surely they can come up with something to promote it better than that. Or would they have stock of the old model that they'll be trying to offload once conditions allow and trying to deny the existence of the new one until that's completed.

There's probably still a load of Sanderos still in stock they'll want to Offload. That happened with the model that's out now. They probably won't appear here till around August anyway

Trundelvagen

The Dacia website says "we do things differently".

They certainly do. I see prices have risen by about €250 in the last month.

A strange way of trying to offload inferior superceded models when a much improved one is on the way.

If I was them, I'd be selling them off at cost price to get them out of the showrooms before the new model arrives.

colm_mcm

That’s probably the VAT increase?
They gave the 2% off last year.

AMKC

Trundelvagen wrote: »

The Dacia website says "we do things differently".

They certainly do. I see prices have risen by about €250 in the last month.

A strange way of trying to offload inferior superceded models when a much improved one is on the way.

If I was them, I'd be selling them off at cost price to get them out of the showrooms before the new model arrives.

Agreed. They should be loading them up with extra's and trying to sell them as soon as they can. No doubt lockdown has not helped with there plans in anyway. When Kia brought out the new MK4 Sportage they sold the MK3 models out with all the kit for less than they were originally. That's what Dacia should be doing.