Battlefield 4 Chat

Wonda-Boy · 06-10-2013 9:06am

Any game no matter how bad is great with teamwork and friends. But if BF4 is only gonna be successful when people play as a team and work with tactics we are doomed. With the level of people out there still grasping the idea that when someone in your squad is howling for a medic or ammo......

THROW HIM SOME FFS!

I gets a feeling that if you play this on your own alot its not gonna be pretty.

Grumpypants · 06-10-2013 11:14am

It's the open beta all the people who think getting 20 kills for themselves is doing good are still playing it.

But after a while they filter away or learn how to play. But I have found the best thing to do is swap around your squads until you get into a good one.

We had the same issue with medal of honor that took a week or two to settle down and lose the cod run and gun players now it's the most fun I have online with any tactical shooter.so glad to see so much of the game incorporated into bf4.

I started using the second screen stuff last night. Having the map open in battlelog full screen on a second monitor is pretty good, gives you a good idea of what's going on and I was using the app to change load outs mid game. You can even get it to jump into a match while I was finishing making a cup of tea in the kitchen!

ShadowHearth · 06-10-2013 12:09pm

Still runs like a dog on my PC even at Medium settings. I dont know if I will bother trying beta anymore.

They are not patching beta? I presume they will just get the worst of it on this build and then put all the fixes in retail version? I will wait till then.

uncle_sam_ie · 06-10-2013 1:52pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Still runs like a dog on my PC even at Medium settings. I dont know if I will bother trying beta anymore.

They are not patching beta? I presume they will just get the worst of it on this build and then put all the fixes in retail version? I will wait till then.

ShadowHearth, are you using the beta drivers? 331.40

http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia_dubs_geforce_33140_beta_driver_essential_update_battlefield_4_players

I'm on a 2500K with a GTX 670 and the game runs perfect.

KillerShamrock · 06-10-2013 2:38pm

Dcully wrote: »

The roof BS really ruins the map, reminds me of one of the maps from Aftermath i believe.
Every server with 80% of the population camping on roofs, ****ing stupid.

I agree but im guilty of it from time to time

I dont think it will be too bad in the full version as the commander will be there and they will have tomahawks and then the ac130 even the counter radar thingy will stop them seeing who is coming their way, so those roof campers will be easy cannon fodder for a good commander and team

ktulu123 · 06-10-2013 5:08pm

New Cinematic I made with the spectator mode called "This is Battlefield 4"

Hope you enjoy it! Took HOURS to make :P

Edit: Make sure you watch it in 1080p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AalVWAucZ_c

If you can, give me a hand on Reddit with this too. Cheers!

http://redd.it/1nuh4o

Logical Fallacy · 06-10-2013 7:51pm

I love elevator campers.

ShadowHearth · 06-10-2013 9:38pm

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

ShadowHearth, are you using the beta drivers? 331.40

http://www.maximumpc.com/nvidia_dubs_geforce_33140_beta_driver_essential_update_battlefield_4_players

I'm on a 2500K with a GTX 670 and the game runs perfect.

Yeah m8. Got those drivers and it still runs like ass.

NTMK · 06-10-2013 9:41pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Yeah m8. Got those drivers and it still runs like ass.

win 7? ive heard of issues being caused by the lack of DX11.1/2 features in win 7

tim3000 · 06-10-2013 9:41pm

On the xbox tanks are rather in-accurate, the shells veer to the right slightly. Hope this will be fixed for the actual game, very poor hit detection in the tanks too. Vehicles feel boxy and awkward to control. Also I don't like the fact that the second the building collapses you die.

Other than that its all right not exactly mind blowing. It has dulled my excitement somewhat to be honest.

ShadowHearth · 06-10-2013 10:42pm

NTMK wrote: »

win 7? ive heard of issues being caused by the lack of DX11.1/2 features in win 7

Aye, win 7. If they will want me to upgrade to win 8 for BF4, then they can **** themselfs. I will never have that Shiet on my PC!

Burgo · 06-10-2013 10:46pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Yeah m8. Got those drivers and it still runs like ass.

I got the same cpu and gfx card, just updated to the beta drivers today and it seems to have sorted out a lot of the issues i was having. Maybe try a clean install of the drivers?

B.A._Baracus · 06-10-2013 11:26pm

Whats the crack with the building bravo base in on....

Does it collapse from player damage (like in Bad Company 2) or specific timed event? ... I keep shooting at it with the heli but feels like it's not doing anything

Dcully · 06-10-2013 11:29pm

If you mean the scyscraper? Its a player event, blow up the 4 front facing support pillars [water side ].

SherlockWatson · 06-10-2013 11:31pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Whats the crack with the building bravo base in on....

Does it collapse from player damage (like in Bad Company 2) or specific timed event? ... I keep shooting at it with the heli but feels like it's not doing anything

You've to shoot out the support beams and it'll fall!

MajesticDonkey · 06-10-2013 11:36pm

You know what's completely missing from the game now.... RUBBLE DROPS.

SherlockWatson · 06-10-2013 11:38pm

Must say I am enjoying the Beta more than I thought, there was a lot of doom and gloom in here but the only things annoying me at the moment are the controls, however once you get used to them its grand.

To the people saying its clunky and slow, what sensitivity are ye playing it on? I've mine around the 80s and it does not feel clunky or slow in any way.

antodeco · 06-10-2013 11:41pm

I really don't like the new driving controls. Much preferred the old style. Some of the shooting is quite inaccurate too. Usual BF stuff. Emptied a magazine on a guy and was fine. He hit me twice and I died.

SherlockWatson · 07-10-2013 12:10am

antodeco wrote: »

I really don't like the new driving controls. Much preferred the old style. Some of the shooting is quite inaccurate too. Usual BF stuff. Emptied a magazine on a guy and was fine. He hit me twice and I died.

You can change the majority of controls back in the menu, they're down as Veteran.

battser · 07-10-2013 9:00am

Am I the only one who thinks that shanghai is not the best map to grace a BF game? Nothing but snipers and rooftops. No ground troop battles or anything like it.

Grumpypants · 07-10-2013 9:29am

battser wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks that shanghai is not the best map to grace a BF game? Nothing but snipers and rooftops. No ground troop battles or anything like it.

It's only really D that is plagued by snipers but I'll just go to the building between D and E get the lift to the roof shoot them all and parachute across to D and kill them too. Snipers are easy pickings.

Then get your chopper pilot to take you to C and surrounding buildings clearing them off. If your tank crew hasn't already taken the building out.

If players are bad I'll get maybe 15 snipers in a map but that leaves nearly 50 people on the ground fighting.

Dermighty · 07-10-2013 9:55am

battser wrote: »

Am I the only one who thinks that shanghai is not the best map to grace a BF game? Nothing but snipers and rooftops. No ground troop battles or anything like it.

It's more apparent in the Domination game mode, where it's one large rooftop overlooking the points and nearly ends up being a king of the hill scenario, rather than domination, it seems to be too easy to kill people at a point halfway across the map. Terrible map choice, even Metro had its pros and cons, this map does not.

ktulu123 · 07-10-2013 10:49am

Dermighty wrote: »

Terrible map choice, even Metro had its pros and cons, this map does not.

I'm sorry, this map is miles better than Metro. Metro was the worst thing to happen to Battlefield. This map at least has a huge variety of ways you can play it. As has been said, guys on roof tops are easy to deal with if you have a decent chopper crew or by using elevators etc.

No it's not the best ever BF map but its a pretty great one

mozattack · 07-10-2013 11:05am

BlitzKrieg wrote: »

In BF3 for the most part unlocks do not have a grind factor to them, you unlock a new gadget and use it over the old one, but it doesnt replace the old one, it does something different. Both the tug and mav spot enemies, but one is a drop it and forget it device and the other requires actual hands on time to operate it (sure you can park it somewhere and it works like a tug, but it still needs to be operated to get it to that spot) as such the unlocks open up options, not grind a progression.

the med pack/ammo pack change is simply creating a grind right now. There needs to be a much more drastic difference between the two to allow options. It needs to encourage a player to take the small ammo/med pack over the large and still have a unique and beneficial role.

As for my other issues with the game:

2. The menu design is horrible, quite frankly the need to show off gun porn is working against the ease one should have to swap up the kit between lives, the top bar should be drop down but it isnt. The fact that the horrible BF3 menus look absolutely genius in comparison is a major warning sign.

3. I'm really hoping this is some beta issue, but the IPD/RPG combo is *odd* I kind of get it if the vehicles were going to be somewhat dominant and in certain ways they are, but its far too easy to run a engie/recon combo at the moment, I would have thought it would have worked like the javelin/soflam where only certain rocket launchers can use the lock on and their standard mode is limited. At the moment the RPG is effective on its own and super effective with the IPD

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Very good points

Grumpypants · 07-10-2013 11:23am

Use the smartphone app to change your load outs no need to use the menus.

Wonda-Boy · 07-10-2013 12:09pm

As was said by OP shooting while moving in the tanks is a DISASSSTTTEER DARLING! And even if there is a tiny little obstacle (fence, box etc) in front of the turret the shot is useless.

mozattack · 07-10-2013 1:10pm

On the small medi and ammo pack, perhaps the benefit is that these can be thrown often whereas the larger ones wont be deployable as often meaning they remain stationery??

If that is the case I can see some benefit in having the smaller version unless you want to camp.

on the game being enjoying it more lately but lets be honest on the PS3 and 24 players isn't great... there will be 2-4 players in the sky, 6 players in the skyscraper and another 6 on some random building sniping... that ruins it.

With 64 players surely it is better

Burgo · 07-10-2013 1:20pm

The small ammo only resuplies 1 clip of regular ammo. It doesn't supply grenades or rpgs or anything.

ktulu123 · 07-10-2013 3:20pm

We found an absolute bastard of a hacker last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mJmlwPOwQ0

Nologogo · 07-10-2013 3:39pm

bahh I spose they never really addressed hackers in BF3, cant see them solving it in this one. Fairfight could help but I'm not sure to what degree.

Just look after yourself by sitting on servers with decent admins, and wait for the initial wave of hackers to get caught and banned.

Edit: Actually, good evidence that spectator mode could be used as a useful anti-cheat. Fair play for taking the time to do it.

mozattack · 07-10-2013 5:51pm

Not bringing up the console v PC war cos I actually don't give a crap but this surprised me... expected a massive difference but I'd rank the difference here as minor.

Was looking forward to next-gen so this disappoints me a little apart from the move to 64 players of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCeldh15iY

MajesticDonkey · 07-10-2013 6:15pm

mozattack wrote: »

Not bringing up the console v PC war cos I actually don't give a crap but this surprised me... expected a massive difference but I'd rank the difference here as minor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCeldh15iY

What were you expecting? You can't program a game to look more real than real-life itself.

mozattack · 07-10-2013 6:46pm

MajesticDonkey wrote: »

What were you expecting? You can't program a game to look more real than real-life itself.

The general consensus from Xbox players was that the game looked poor but it doesn't when you compared it to PC (on that video at least)... maybe the difference is more obvious when the game is played in terms of fluidity... I don't know.

NTMK · 07-10-2013 6:49pm

mozattack wrote: »

The general consensus from Xbox players was that the game looked poor but it doesn't when you compared it to PC (on that video at least)... maybe the difference is more obvious when the game is played in terms of fluidity... I don't know.

pc beta is lacking textures and that video doesn't do it any justice

ktulu123 · 07-10-2013 6:56pm

Yeah trust me, the game looks MILES better on PC. That video does not do it justice at all. Did you see my "This is Battlefield 4" video posted earlier? One of the old consoles could never produce visuals like that. The new consoles will though I hear

tim3000 · 07-10-2013 8:18pm

mozattack wrote: »

On the small medi and ammo pack, perhaps the benefit is that these can be thrown often whereas the larger ones wont be deployable as often meaning they remain stationery??

If that is the case I can see some benefit in having the smaller version unless you want to camp.

on the game being enjoying it more lately but lets be honest on the PS3 and 24 players isn't great... there will be 2-4 players in the sky, 6 players in the skyscraper and another 6 on some random building sniping... that ruins it.

With 64 players surely it is better

Its the same on xbox, 24 players makes it a little too quiet. Its not as frantic as I'd like to be honest. Though I'am getting into it more. What I like is the ammo boxes that spawn on the roof of B with a launcher and a really high powered rifle. Very useful against chopper/infantry. Though the tanks leave a lot to be desired

Also does anyone know what that little bar over your squad list means? It fills up during the course of the match

EGriff · 07-10-2013 8:22pm

What have they done to the stinger? I hit a chopper 3 times in quick succession and it kept on flying. As if the choppers weren't powerful enough in 3.

Dcully · 07-10-2013 8:51pm

mozattack wrote: »

Not bringing up the console v PC war cos I actually don't give a crap but this surprised me... expected a massive difference but I'd rank the difference here as minor.

Was looking forward to next-gen so this disappoints me a little apart from the move to 64 players of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCeldh15iY

There is a massive difference, i have both and the difference is night and day, No youtube video can get anywhere near the fidelity of sitting infront of a PC
Its actually shocking the difference between the two.

Mad_Dave · 07-10-2013 8:58pm

After putting in a good few hours over the last couple of days on PS3, I have to say I'm enjoying it. Wasn't overly impressed with the movement mechanics at first, but once you get used to them its grand.
Obviously it's rough as ****, but hardly suprising for such an old build - think I read somewhere it's three months old ?
No major advances over BF3 so far, but lots and lots of small touches that make for a more fun and balanced experince.

Domination is a bit of a laugh, I don't expect to play it a lot but it's fun for what it is.
Conquest on this particular map is ok, gets much better when the tower comes down I think.

Was playing earlier on using a spec ops style recon with carbine loadout. We'd just taken B when I saw the enemy was taking C, naturally being the super soldier I am I instantly jumped off the building and parachuted down to the rooftop at C. Spotted three bad guys below me, dropped down and knifed one before killing the other two. Captured the point then C4'd the enemy tank that rolled up to try and stop me. Felt like a boss

Overall I'm liking BF4 so far, definitely think it's going to be very good once the polished final version comes out. Unfortunately I think the PS3 version is going to suffer due to level design for higher player count, but hopefully I'll be proven wrong.

MajesticDonkey · 07-10-2013 9:09pm

tim3000 wrote: »

Also does anyone know what that little bar over your squad list means? It fills up during the course of the match

It's your squad perk upgrade as far as I know. It fills as your squad takes objectives, revives etc., and empties when the squad is wiped.

Mad_Dave wrote: »

Obviously it's rough as ****, but hardly suprising for such an old build - think I read somewhere it's three months old ?

Six months, I believe.

5uspect · 07-10-2013 9:56pm

I really don't like this beta at all.

KillerShamrock · 07-10-2013 10:13pm

mozattack wrote: »

Not bringing up the console v PC war cos I actually don't give a crap but this surprised me... expected a massive difference but I'd rank the difference here as minor.

Was looking forward to next-gen so this disappoints me a little apart from the move to 64 players of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCeldh15iY

AAAAhhhhhhhhh it burns my eyes :P I didnt know they were releasing BF4 on the snes :pac:

I kid

In all fairness though peoples expectations of this beta are far too high so much moaning and complaining its a BETA ffs, its months old and poorly optimized if your still not sure about buying the final game wait for reviews and other peoples opinions then make a decision don't just make a decision based on this BETA alone

Logical Fallacy · 07-10-2013 10:59pm

mozattack wrote: »

Not bringing up the console v PC war cos I actually don't give a crap but this surprised me... expected a massive difference but I'd rank the difference here as minor.

Was looking forward to next-gen so this disappoints me a little apart from the move to 64 players of course.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCeldh15iY

Textures in the Beta are not the finished deal dude.

Timmyctc · 08-10-2013 12:31am

Hows connection these days? I havent gone near it since it kept crashing on me

ktulu123 · 08-10-2013 1:29am

Running great for me since the patch. Couple crashes earlier but a load of hours went by without one

Had one of the best rounds earlier tonight. Amazing comeback round with some outrageous stuff happening. Deffo going to make a video of it

jonski · 08-10-2013 9:25am

Found an Irish server last night , only spotted it because my ping was 11 :eek:. Good few people on it .

Dcully · 08-10-2013 9:31am

Ok ive played enough to say i will definitely be buying the full game, most likely premium and DLC.
Yes the beta is poorly optimized,yes its buggy,yes its a 3-4 month old build but you know what - im having a lot of fun even with the same map over and over.
Played some BF3 lastnight with some friends, enjoyed it since i hadnt played BF3 in months.
Instantly it felt so polished compared to the BF4 beta, but after one map i was back to BF4.
I think they have nailed the gameplay this time round.

Burgo · 08-10-2013 9:49am

jonski wrote: »

Found an Irish server last night , only spotted it because my ping was 11 :eek:. Good few people on it .

Link please?

Nologogo · 08-10-2013 9:56am

jonski wrote: »

Found an Irish server last night , only spotted it because my ping was 11 :eek:. Good few people on it .

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/73cf5ec6-c42e-4342-bf98-a6767262d013/EA-DICE-Test-Server-267223/

Was on it myself last night. See you guys on there tonight.

ktulu123 · 08-10-2013 10:21am

Myself & the Gaellords guys are on it most of the time too

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