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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion : 2019 and Winter 2020

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    That would be serious rain if it falls as the ECM is predicting.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    That would be serious rain if it falls as the ECM is predicting.

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    And most of it over a couple of hours only


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Lets see how accurate these are. On an normal pulse thunderstorm type days these prediction charts barely register a faint colour, normally grey. This would be very out of the ordinary if it happens as it is predicting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I think an orange warning for Clare/Galway/Mayo looks warranted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    ZX7R wrote: »
    What's the big blob of the coast of Dublin to whales it has really moved but changes in intenseaty thunder storm or false return


    Some level of disregard for legibility you have going on there, took me a while to decipher the question!

    Yes they are false returns. Easy way to tell is have a look at https://en.sat24.com/en. If there are no clouds, there is no rain or thunderstorm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Yr.no showing 48 mm of rain over a 4 hour period tomorrow afternoon for Galway city
    This surely won’t happen??????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    km79 wrote: »
    Yr.no showing 48 mm of rain over a 4 hour period tomorrow afternoon for Galway city
    This surely won’t happen??????

    Can happen. Kilkenny had 56.7mm in 2 hours during a thunderstorm in July 1983 for example following a hot spell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Can happen. Kilkenny had 56.7mm in 2 hours during a thunderstorm in July 1983 for example following a hot spell.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Can happen. Kilkenny had 56.7mm in 2 hours during a thunderstorm in July 1983 for example following a hot spell.


    And this:
    29th June 2005 saw 45mm fall in the Phoenix Park in less than an hour.

    from https://www.met.ie/cms/assets/uploads/2017/08/HeavyRain241011.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    ECM modelling the thunderstorm potential in the east all day Saturday from sunrise. Most interesting of the 12z runs for storm potential for us on this side. :cool:

    Parameters look quite intense for Galway tomorrow. Reckon there will be some headlines on the news come tomorrow evening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Is it flooding your on about for Galway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Is it flooding your on about for Galway

    It’s what I’m worried about anyway given the forecasted (by yr.no) rain intensity over such a short period of time
    That
    And the lightning !


  • Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭aisling86


    Thunderstorm warning for cork Kerry Clare Galway updated on Facebook on Irish weather online (MT).


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭typhoony


    Met Eireann haven't reacted at all the potential tomorrow, you'd think they'd have some form of warning up for Clare and Galway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭Rougies


    typhoony wrote: »
    Met Eireann haven't reacted at all the potential tomorrow, you'd think they'd have some form of warning up for Clare and Galway.

    However, cloud will begin to build across parts of Munster and Connacht and there is the potential for a few thunderstorms to develop which may result in localised surface flooding.


    :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Ominous looking sky this morning, West Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    aisling86 wrote:
    I'd nearly drive to Clare to experience that tomorrow, been waiting all week for a good thunderstorm.


    Considering it myself if its to be as bad as suggested.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Cloudy cool wind in Galway temp 17 degrees


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Met Eireann and uk met office forecast sequences still having none of this
    In fact the UKMO has moved them further offshore
    It’s rarely that badly wrong so I’m hopeful the worst will stay further west
    Yr.no forecast still not updated and is out on its own
    MTC doesn’t seem too concerned either


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Nothing really showing up on radar now any rain is small off the West coast and that big mean looking cloud off the South Coast yesterday that had all the lightning is more or less gone.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    There is a line of cloud coming from the SE ,having moved in over County Cork and on a line for N kerry / Clare, starting to show height in it on Sat 24. Convection might increase as it passes over higher terrain resulting in Thunderstorms along its track perhaps in N Kerry / Clare as the ECM continues to predict this morning. Not much else showing up at this stage. Will see.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    I see a shower pushing north over West Cork


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,068 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    I see a shower pushing north over West Cork

    Just see that now too, will be interesting to see if the intensity continues to grow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Just see that now too, will be interesting to see if the intensity continues to grow.

    Fizzling as we watch it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    km79 wrote: »
    Met Eireann and uk met office forecast sequences still having none of this
    In fact the UKMO has moved them further offshore
    It’s rarely that badly wrong so I’m hopeful the worst will stay further west
    Yr.no forecast still not updated and is out on its own
    MTC doesn’t seem too concerned either

    Yr.no updated
    All rain gone
    Never seen such a change


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    YR have very poor accuracy in my experience. Maximum of 24°c I was to have apparently yesterday! 29.2°c is what I ended up with.

    It also forecasted the entire snow storm of march 2018 as 'sleet' for here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    YR have very poor accuracy in my experience. Maximum of 24°c I was to have apparently yesterday! 29.2°c is what I ended up with.

    It also forecasted the entire snow storm of march 2018 as 'sleet' for here.

    It did not perform well for me during the snow either
    Generally though it’s a good guide
    Never seen such a swing before

    What model is it based on ? Some Norwegian one I think ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Zone from east limerick up to Mayo through Galway seem to have the most rapidly rising cloud tops atm,look there I think for activity later


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    km79 wrote: »
    Yr.no showing 48 mm of rain over a 4 hour period tomorrow afternoon for Galway city
    This surely won’t happen??????
    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Can happen. Kilkenny had 56.7mm in 2 hours during a thunderstorm in July 1983 for example following a hot spell.

    https://www.met.ie/cms/assets/uploads/2017/08/July1985_Thunderstorm.pdf

    Coon in Kilkenny had 21mm in 15 minutes during the 1985 thunderstorms and 29mm in the full 30 minute period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Sky to my south, west Mayo.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Get the sunshine going in those areas where the thunderstorm risk is today over Clare/Galway and the risk is quite something according to the ECM

    Parameters are definitely there today.

    Hopefully this transfers over to the East during tomorrrow. Tonight likely to be very oppressive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Such a different feel to the atmosphere today compared to yesterday, oppressive, the air is stagnant, like a thick soup, the sun is out, but there are lumps of dark clouds circulating overhead.

    West Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Development getting going off the west coast alright. Its a question of how far east that corridor extends. We should be seeing some proper inland convection at this stage.

    Still good for tomorrow morning in the east.

    Sferics off the coast of Co Clare now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Strikes now off Clare


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Sudden gust of wind,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Strikes now off Clare

    Yes but they are moving North West away from the Coast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Yes but they are moving North West away from the Coast

    UKMO spot on as usual


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Classic thunderstorm looking sky now, navy blue, horizon faded out, clouds indistinguishable


  • Registered Users Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Carol25


    Clouds and skies between Oranmore and Athenry. Pic 1 to the East, pic 2 to the West. The birds and animals are eerily quiet. Strange feel to the day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 543 ✭✭✭coillsaille


    Starting to hear the odd rumble to my west here in south Connemara. Cloudy and humid, bit of a breeze but nothing like yesterday's near gale.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,764 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Storm 10 wrote: »
    Yes but they are moving North West away from the Coast

    Cold front still moving eastwards though.
    These thunderstorms are the edge of the cold front.
    Be interesting to see what happens later.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Carol25 wrote: »
    Clouds and skies between Oranmore and Athenry. Pic 1 to the East, pic 2 to the West. The birds and animals are eerily quiet. Strange feel to the day.

    2nd one looks very thundery!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Very active now off the west coast nearly 30 strikes per minute.

    Pity they are not off the coast of Cornwall


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Oh momma

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    Scary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Scary

    Loaded Gun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,219 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Oh she’s really going for it now off Galway Bay. If it was nighttime it would be a great show!


  • Registered Users Posts: 314 ✭✭chris2007


    Wondering if these thunderstorms will make it to the east coast dublin area


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,901 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    chris2007 wrote: »
    Wondering if these thunderstorms will make it to the east coast dublin area

    Tomorrow morning is the best opportunity in the east.

    Nothing today.

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