Hitman 3

sniper_samurai · 20-01-2021 7:35pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I have access to the Hitman 2 levels but not the Hitman 1 ones, knew this would be messy based on the last game. Not been able to get far enough for progress to be transferred.

Yeah, H1 transfer isn't working on Xbox atm. Seems to not be linked to H3 as it doesn't show up as a valid add on.

20-01-2021 7:42pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

Yeah, H1 transfer isn't working on Xbox atm. Seems to not be linked to H3 as it doesn't show up as a valid add on.

Yeah seems so I was able to go in to manage game and check 2 boxes for the H2 stuff but nothing there for the H1 content.

Exclamation Marc · 20-01-2021 9:06pm

It's a mess to be honest (of course nowhere near Cyberpunk of course) and it's completely botching the launch

Most people won't and don't want to start playing because as soon as they get the carry over fixed, it'll overwrite anything done now.

hellsing101 · 20-01-2021 9:22pm

Is anyone on PS5 with a disc version experiencing an issue where the H3 campaign past Dubai wont download, just says cant access, no way of downloading the levels.

20-01-2021 11:58pm

Has anyone gotten through the carryover process? I'm stuck on the exporting data screen. Pain in the ass. Hopefully they can fix this by tomorrow.

shrewdness · 21-01-2021 12:16am

Finally got my progress from Hitman 2 carried over this evening. It was taking ages at the "In progress" screen, so I left it and went away for a bit, then when I returned the screen was blank. I backed out to the first screen as I wasn't sure if it completed the transfer, but it didn't look like it at the time. I sure the PS5 off then as I was watching the football, but I turned it on again after to check and it had updated!

Hopefully it's running smoother tomorrow for everyone. Didn't even get a chance to play it proper as I didn't want to lose any progress, just walked through the Dubai level for a look earlier and it looks stunning.

21-01-2021 12:16am

Deleted User wrote: »

Has anyone gotten through the carryover process? I'm stuck on the exporting data screen. Pain in the ass. Hopefully they can fix this by tomorrow.

Watching achievements pop now site crashed on me while it was in process but worked, still had no luck with H1 level import though.

EDIT: Looks like it's just the mastery ones that unlock when you carry over.

Exclamation Marc · 21-01-2021 12:55am

All ported over now. Happy days!

ironictoaster · 21-01-2021 2:37pm

Just a word of warning for psn users. Ensure you download H3 in the same region as H1 and H2.

I purchased H1 and H2 on my irish psn account and H3 on my US account (20 euro saving on PS5)

I can't link the games together now as H3 can't see "hitman 2 standard" from the Irish account. Even though, I'm logged into my Irish account and have the H2 downloaded on the SSD.

sniper_samurai · 21-01-2021 4:48pm

ironictoaster wrote: »

Just a word of warning for psn users. Ensure you download H3 in the same region as H1 and H2.

I purchased H1 and H2 on my irish psn account and H3 on my US account (20 euro saving on PS5)

I can't link the games together now as H3 can't see "hitman 2 standard" from the Irish account. Even though, I'm logged into my Irish account and have the H2 downloaded on the SSD.

I still can't get the H1 pack on Xbox, a lot of people are having this issue.

It seems it is searching for the Legacy Pack licence, but if you have the GOTY Legacy Pack licence it is not being recognized as owning it asking you to rebuy.

Vicxas · 21-01-2021 5:23pm

Has anyone had any success getting the games to show up in Hitman 3, i own Hitman 1,2 and 3 but its asking me to buy the access pass.

This is PSN

Exclamation Marc · 21-01-2021 5:41pm

Vicxas wrote: »

Has anyone had any success getting the games to show up in Hitman 3, i own Hitman 1,2 and 3 but its asking me to buy the access pass.

This is PSN

Yep, I'm all set up now.

21-01-2021 8:44pm

Digital Foundry analysis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCcyYKpAsdM

awec · 21-01-2021 9:01pm

What do people think of it?

ironictoaster · 22-01-2021 1:47am

Anyone having issues with their mastery levels been reset after carry over? I was level 20 for all H1 levels and now I'm back to 0.

Gonzovision · 22-01-2021 11:06am

awec wrote: »

What do people think of it?

Just played the first two levels. Loved the Dartmoor murder mystery.

TheValeyard · 22-01-2021 11:36am

Okay, as someone who loves the Hitman games and played all of them, should I get this game?

Oaky fine you twisted my arm, Cheers.

Wuff Wuff · 22-01-2021 11:40am

is there any plans for them to release a complete edition trilogy does anyone know?

quokula · 22-01-2021 11:59am

So I decided to just pick it up and skip the first two games. I've done three levels now and really enjoyed all of them a lot, there is so much variety and so much potential for experimentation. I think I probably will end up buying the add-ons for the first two games now, but I don't really mind playing them out of order because the overarching story is really irrelevant.

awec · 22-01-2021 12:58pm

The overall story is basically cutscenes between missions. The missions themselves contain no real story.

Exclamation Marc · 22-01-2021 1:07pm

awec wrote: »

The overall story is basically cutscenes between missions. The missions themselves contain no real story.

Agreed and I think even more so in Hitman 1 where the story between missions was barely comprehensible.

awec · 22-01-2021 1:18pm

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

Agreed and I think even more so in Hitman 1 where the story between missions was barely comprehensible.

I still don't really get it, nor care about it, I generally just go past them.

Said it earlier in the thread, the game is basically a collection of puzzles set in different locations. You can play them in any order and they're all designed to be replayable many times.

Azza · 22-01-2021 8:13pm

The story isn't complicated.

Basic story overview Hitman (2016)

iThe ICA or International Contract Agency who 47 and Diana work for partake in a number of assassinations that are seemingly unrelated but they come to realize that they have all been initiated by a single client of the ICA referred to as the Shadow Client and the assassinated targets were all agents or indirect agents of Providence a sort of powerfull Illuminati-esque group who manipulate world events to their own ends. At the end of Hitman Providence tries to recruit Diana and by extension 47 to target the Shadow Client by offering her information on 47's origins.

Hitman 2

starts off with the ICA now working with Providence to targets members of the Shadow Client's organization and learn the identity of the Shadow Client. However on locating the Shadow Client he reveals he's connected to 47's past and that Providence played a role in his past as well and he convinces 47 and Diana to work with him in taking down Providence. The game ends with 47, Diana and the Shadow Client learning the identity of people behind Providence, but at the same time Providence gives Diana information on her past that may lead her to changing sides once again. The DLC missions of Hitman 2 focus on 47 and the Shadow Client's efforts in stopping the leaders of Providence from going into hiding.

Hitman 3

starts off with 47, Diana and the Shadow Client targeting the leaders of Providence. Won't say any more, other than Diana's and the Shadow Client's allegiances are all under question.]

23-01-2021 12:37am

The requirements for level 20 mastery seem to be much more than the previous games. I've 14/15 assassination, 21/22 discovery, 11/14 feats in Dubai and still at level 18. Leaving 14k xp from remaining challenges unless I go suit only silent assassin with the sniper.

Exclamation Marc · 23-01-2021 3:57am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The requirements for level 20 mastery seem to be much more than the previous games. I've 14/15 assassination, 21/22 discovery, 11/14 feats in Dubai and still at level 18. Leaving 14k xp from remaining challenges unless I go suit only silent assassin with the sniper.

There are much fewer story missions on each level (only 3 per level it seems) which is easily knocking 12-16k off the available scores. That's probably contributing to it somewhat.

VG31 · 23-01-2021 11:20am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

There are much fewer story missions on each level (only 3 per level it seems) which is easily knocking 12-16k off the available scores. That's probably contributing to it somewhat.

I thought that at first also, but I saw on Reddit that most mission stories are hidden now.

23-01-2021 11:44am

Yeah the second game was like that too, in that a few of them weren't marked. In Dubai there is one near the start were you have to reunite Stuyvesant

with his daughter

which sets up a few possibilities and then you have the Angry Birdy one. I've only done that level so far so can't comment on the rest but it did feel like there were fewer stories hidden or not.

The angry birdy one I thought was a pain to set up until I overheard a few things and then it was obvious. It did take 3 or 4 conversations in different locations to give me all the pieces I needed though.

Azza · 23-01-2021 3:58pm

Well I finished this yesterday on PC, as in I went through all 6 missions once just for the story line.

Overall its very good. I think the overall standard of the 6 maps is the best of the trilogy, but arguable it doesn't reach the heights of the very best maps of the first two games and the 6th mission is probably the weakest mission in the entire 20 missions of the trilogy, though its far from awful.

Gameplay wise, very little has change from the previous games. One or two very small editions like the digital camera you can use for hacking, unlock-able shortcuts in the maps and the occasional need to memorize pass codes. Didn't notice any difference with the A.I. Only took 10 hours to beat the campaign but I will get dozens if not hundreds of hours out of this game going back to find new ways of completing missions and challenges. I think the highlight mission was mission 3 set in and around a rave club in Berlin, both from a map design and visual perspective as well as having to discover the identity of targets in game as being opposed to told who they are. Not sure if the identity of the targets change in different playthroughs. Hope they do for replay-ability sake.

Performance wise on PC overall performance was improved over the first two games with fewer FPS dips, but I did notice the 5th mission wasn't as smooth in terms of frame rate compared to all the other missions which remained above 60FPS at all times. One CTD while in the menu in 11.5 hours I clocked in game. The first two games ion the trilogy did have a tendency to crash as well but the crashing was never frequent enough to be anything more than a minor annoyance. Game looks slightly better the previous games, so it looks very nice overall with very few visual glitches.

Story wise its pretty much the same standard as the first two. Completely serviceable but its not going to stick long in the memory.

Overall if you liked the first two games in the trilogy you won't be disappointed with this one. If the first two games didn't do anything for you, this won't either. It doesn't break any new ground but IMO that's all right because its continuing on from very good foundations.

Penn · 23-01-2021 8:20pm

Have done Dubai twice now. Once in the mission way, and once just winging it around the level (though stumbling into one of the other set mission things, the Insecurity one). Other guy I killed with the golf ball.

Got Intel for a few of the other ways to do it and can see things that could set up other ones. Can definitely see the replayability in it. Didnt play Hitman 1 or 2, but once I complete 3 I might spring for them to get their levels into 3.

sniper_samurai · 23-01-2021 8:34pm

Penn wrote: »

Have done Dubai twice now. Once in the mission way, and once just winging it around the level (though stumbling into one of the other set mission things, the Insecurity one). Other guy I killed with the golf ball.

Got Intel for a few of the other ways to do it and can see things that could set up other ones. Can definitely see the replayability in it. Didnt play Hitman 1 or 2, but once I complete 3 I might spring for them to get their levels into 3.

What platform are you on? The levels for 1 are free if you buy in the first 10 days on PC.

Eneba have 2 Gold Edition for €25 on Xbox.

Not sure of deals on psn for the other games, but you might have 1 as it was on ps+.

Penn · 23-01-2021 9:01pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

What platform are you on? The levels for 1 are free if you buy in the first 10 days on PC.

Eneba have 2 Gold Edition for €25 on Xbox.

Not sure of deals on psn for the other games, but you might have 1 as it was on ps+.

PS5. I bought the very first edition of Hitman 1 when it was just one or two levels, however it was when it was first released. Never actually got around to playing it though bar a quick try. Either wasn't feeling it at the time or was busy with something else. Never went back to it and never got the full edition when it was on PS+.

sniper_samurai · 23-01-2021 9:07pm

Penn wrote: »

PS5. I bought the very first edition of Hitman 1 when it was just one or two levels, however it was when it was first released. Never actually got around to playing it though bar a quick try. Either wasn't feeling it at the time or was busy with something else. Never went back to it and never got the full edition when it was on PS+.

Gamestop have Hitman 2 Gold for €30. You can put in the expansion pass code, install the game and get the access passes for 3.

When done and lockdown lifts Cex will buy it for €12.

Better than paying €100 for the access passes on psn.

23-01-2021 9:16pm

Might be useful for others, not sure if this was in the previous games, if you go into options, gameplay and hud options you can toggle silent assassin hud.

It puts 2 green pistols beside your map, if they go red you've messed up. Saves you having to wait until the run is over to find out.

24-01-2021 12:02am

The suit only silent assassin run I did in Dartmoor was cake even on master. The short cuts really make a difference.

I went for the sniper kill from the roof challenge too because I'd done one of the mission stories and knew I could hide her body outside in a certain place

shot her into the grave while the undertaker and bodyguard were looking away

24-01-2021 3:31pm

Just started Berlin, wow!!!!!! Loving the objective and the scale of the level.

Penn · 24-01-2021 6:35pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just started Berlin, wow!!!!!! Loving the objective and the scale of the level.

Yeah did one run of Berlin earlier. Seeing some of the challenges and the things I missed is astonishing.

24-01-2021 8:20pm

Penn wrote: »

Yeah did one run of Berlin earlier. Seeing some of the challenges and the things I missed is astonishing.

I took out one of the guys with

the lights from the DJ booth

has to be up there as one of the best Hitman kills.

EDIT: And that was the end of the level, tells me to leave? Hmmmm the lack of mission stories means I've missed a tonne of stuff here I didn't even explore the levels exterior.

Vicxas · 24-01-2021 10:21pm

I reran the Dubai mission and i absolutely nailed it with accidental kills but I got much less XP second time around than my first fumble around.

Not sure why

Exclamation Marc · 24-01-2021 10:22pm

Vicxas wrote: »

I reran the Dubai mission and i absolutely nailed it with accidental kills but I got much less XP second time around than my first fumble around.

Not sure why

I think you would get XP bonuses for just killing the targets first time round but not the second.

Penn · 24-01-2021 11:14pm

Vicxas wrote: »

I reran the Dubai mission and i absolutely nailed it with accidental kills but I got much less XP second time around than my first fumble around.

Not sure why

Yeah as EM says, a lot of the things you got XP for the first time around you wouldn't get again on the second time, only any new things you did.

Just one more main mission to go. Decided rather than redo levels, I'll finish the main story first. Some great level design throughout.

25-01-2021 12:06am

I can't move on till I hit mastery. Luckily the game tracks challenges even after a reload so you can do something get the challenge and reload and not worry about the consequences. You have to finish the level to "bank" them.

dreamers75 · 25-01-2021 3:50am

1st level completed in 9 seconds.

Spoilers obviously.

Penn · 26-01-2021 12:08am

Hate the swing of emotion you get when after infiltrating a high security area, you walk through some doors, get your bearings and think "Ah, I know this place... this leads back round to the other side" or whatever, then you turn around and realise the doors have closed behind you and you're locked out.

Also wish the minimap could give some indication if you'll be trespassing if you enter an area in your current disguise before you actually enter it.

Loving the game though. Did the Berlin level again tonight killing some of the guys in a completely different way, including new areas... and still haven't discovered half the stuff you can do. Incredible.

Azza · 26-01-2021 1:21am

Penn wrote: »

Hate the swing of emotion you get when after infiltrating a high security area, you walk through some doors, get your bearings and think "Ah, I know this place... this leads back round to the other side" or whatever, then you turn around and realise the doors have closed behind you and you're locked out.

Also wish the minimap could give some indication if you'll be trespassing if you enter an area in your current disguise before you actually enter it.

Loving the game though. Did the Berlin level again tonight killing some of the guys in a completely different way, including new areas... and still haven't discovered half the stuff you can do. Incredible.

It doesn't really matter if you wander into an area with an incorrect disguise. If the A.I spots you it will give you a chance to leave or escort you out of the area. If you comply you don't set off an alert and it doesn't effect you're ratings.

In Hitman (2016) this wasn't the case and the enemies would instantly attack you and you would automatically loose the Silent Assassin rating. You had no chance to undo your error.

Penn · 26-01-2021 8:55am

Azza wrote: »

It doesn't really matter if you wander into an area with an incorrect disguise. If the A.I spots you it will give you a chance to leave or escort you out of the area. If you comply you don't set off an alert and it doesn't effect you're ratings.

In Hitman (2016) this wasn't the case and the enemies would instantly attack you and you would automatically loose the Silent Assassin rating. You had no chance to undo your error.

Ah yeah, its a minor annoyance, hasn't caused any difficulties. Just feel very un-Hitman-like when it causes me to go "Whoopsydaisy!" in my head.

28-01-2021 10:31pm

Finished it tonight. Thoroughly enjoyed it and got full mastery on every level too as well as achievements. Felt it was easier over all compared to the previous though maybe it's just experience.

One minor gripe was the last level wasn't great and even suit only silent assassin on a blind first attempt was viable.

Mendoza was tricky for level 20 in the end I had to do the classics to get enough xp as I'd everything else done. Couldn't figure out a viable way to do suit only silent and sniper assassin in one, or even just sniper assassin. Vidal was the problem, couldn't see anyway of sniping her clean and hiding the body. In the in I used a combination of my own work and a guide for taking her out suit only by subduing her then shooting her concealed body. This was at odds with the other levels which seemed to have a few options for all 4 classics in one run.

Azza · 28-01-2021 11:02pm

You don't need to hide bodies to get Sniper Assassin. Just make sure you're not seen killing the targets.

28-01-2021 11:54pm

Azza wrote: »

You don't need to hide bodies to get Sniper Assassin. Just make sure you're not seen killing the targets.

I was going for the 4 in the one run to save time which I eventually managed, but would have been quicker to do the the sniper assassin one and then a hands on suit only run.

Also given that it was totally viable to do that on all other levels made me persist. Even getting at her suit only meant stripping her of guards and exploiting the increased range of audio distractions in this game.

Exclamation Marc · 04-02-2021 6:35pm

February Roadmap released by IOI. Looking forward to the escalations (Proloff Parable looks good!) and good to see the Elusive Targets back.

Exclamation Marc · 09-02-2021 4:33pm

Picked up the Platinum trophy today and have it all polished off. I only ever get them for games I really love and Hitman 3 was incredible. Didn't feel like a huge slog getting the platinum either (as I like doing all the challenges). Looking forward to more content drops.

What a game.

Hitman 3

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