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Australian Open 2018

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,424 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Kerber giving keys a right skutchin


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Until the age of social media we had no idea what ideologies or politics any sports stars espoused.
    We know nothing about so many we’ve idolized all over the years.
    Anyone who is judging and condemning a sports person on their twitter/Facebook account needs a swift kick up the butt.
    Just enjoy the sports and stop your histrionics.

    What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?

    https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136

    You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it?

    People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    What's with that false alarm, smoke alarm in the stadium?
    C'mon Chung.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    Nothing is stopping Kerber now, she's back to her best.

    I think with Berdych, if you keep knocking on the door enough times like he has, eventually it will open. Think there's a few more twists on the men's side.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Moist Bread


    What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?

    https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136

    You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it?

    People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:

    I find this interesting, the person who retweeted this is nearly as bad as him for posting it. It's still out there now for people to get offended about. Isn't that the problem? People will discriminate in their own minds all the time, you cannot police thought, can you? He deleted it. It should stay that way.

    The reality is people don't want him to change and see the error of his ways, they just want to virtue signal and feel self righteous.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2 Mickeyswish


    I don't see Federer getting past Berdych, even if he does, I think he will fall at semi final or final. His level isn't high enough to win it this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭Christy42


    What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?

    https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136

    You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it?

    People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:

    I find this interesting, the person who retweeted this is nearly as bad as him for posting it. It's still out there now for people to get offended about. Isn't that the problem? People will discriminate in their own minds all the time, you cannot police thought, can you? He deleted it. It should stay that way.

    The reality is people don't want him to change and see the error of his ways, they just want to virtue signal and feel self righteous.
    No one is policing his thoughts. You can still call someone out for being a horrible person. The guy is still free to think what he likes. Does not mean people have to call him a nice person.

    No the person retweeting it is not as bad. Pointing out homophobia is not as bad as homophobia. That one seems obvious enough. He is not free from the consequences of what he said. Even if he realised later it was a bad pr move.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭Moist Bread


    Christy42 wrote: »
    No one is policing his thoughts. You can still call someone out for being a horrible person. The guy is still free to think what he likes. Does not mean people have to call him a nice person.

    No the person retweeting it is not as bad. Pointing out homophobia is not as bad as homophobia. That one seems obvious enough. He is not free from the consequences of what he said. Even if he realised later it was a bad pr move.

    Is he forever to be hated then? Just people thinking of him as this disgusting person till the end of time for posting his misguided thoughts. Deleting the comments at least mean he has thought about it, albeit most likely from a PR standpoint but hopefully it will make him reevaluate his stance. Did he apoligize?

    I only see this call out culture doing any good if it actually changes peoples minds. It seems to me like it's straight up virtue signaling.

    Anway, I agree people can not like it and call it out, but sometimes I question their motives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    maybe you agree with it?

    Well I sure as hell wouldn't like to end up in the middle of a gay club either. Doesn't mean I have anything against the community.

    I've seen some interviews with Sandgren now and bar the Jesus nonsense he seems like quite a nice guy. I'd have a pint with him. And if he wants to believe in some conspiracy theory then fine. I'm friends with guys who believe in a lot weirder ****e than that :pac:

    Super interested in what Chung's gonna do now. And I wouldn't write Fed off so easily. Gonna be a good match I think. Now if I can just watch some of it without anyone at work noticing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Christy42 wrote: »
    No one is policing his thoughts. You can still call someone out for being a horrible person. The guy is still free to think what he likes. Does not mean people have to call him a nice person.

    No the person retweeting it is not as bad. Pointing out homophobia is not as bad as homophobia. That one seems obvious enough. He is not free from the consequences of what he said. Even if he realised later it was a bad pr move.

    Is he forever to be hated then? Just people thinking of him as this disgusting person till the end of time for posting his misguided thoughts. Deleting the comments at least mean he has thought about it, albeit most likely from a PR standpoint but hopefully it will make him reevaluate his stance. Did he apoligize?

    I only see this call out culture doing any good if it actually changes peoples minds. It seems to me like it's straight up virtue signaling.

    Anway, I agree people can not like it and call it out, but sometimes I question their motives.
    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5305971/amp/Tennys-Sandgren-hits-dehumanising-media-coverage.html

    Not even slightly. Seems to be more annoyed he got called on what he said than anything else. He should take a bit more personal responsibility for what he has said really. He seems to have deleted his tweets to try and get rid of the story more than anything else. (Unless I missed a story elsewhere where he apologised, this was all I could find).

    Hopefully he does do some introspection. Certainly I did not suggest he should be hated forever and would not hold past views against him should he come around.

    Hopefully Chung can be consistent in a few big competitions going forward.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Good article
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/tennys-sandgren-has-every-right-to-be-fuming/news-story/79addf6f47b3c94d91c45b68cae2f9d5

    The left wing media really are scum, taking things out of context for their little witch hunt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?

    https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136

    You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it?

    People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:


    SO ****ING WHAT !!! ?

    My eyes would be bleeding if I went into a gay club,
    just like they would be if I went to a one direction concert, doesn't make me a homophobe.

    Stop looking to be offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    I don't see Federer getting past Berdych, even if he does, I think he will fall at semi final or final. His level isn't high enough to win it this year.

    You were saying?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    Absolutely delighted. Berdych carried his form through to this match opening fiercely but Federer has peaked at the right time this tournament. I couldn't see it but what I gather he was superb today. Really looking forward to the highlights!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Feel bad for Berdych, he did nothing wrong.
    Federer just too good.

    Be careful of Chung tho .... he is like a young Djokovic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Christy42 wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5305971/amp/Tennys-Sandgren-hits-dehumanising-media-coverage.html

    Not even slightly. Seems to be more annoyed he got called on what he said than anything else. He should take a bit more personal responsibility for what he has said really. He seems to have deleted his tweets to try and get rid of the story more than anything else. (Unless I missed a story elsewhere where he apologised, this was all I could find).

    Hopefully he does do some introspection. Certainly I did not suggest he should be hated forever and would not hold past views against him should he come around.

    Hopefully Chung can be consistent in a few big competitions going forward.

    Yeah how dare he have his own opinion, we will like him if he agrees with us !!!

    #wrongthink


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    You were saying?

    Nice aftertiming. You knew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,945 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    This match was a microcosm of Berdych's career. Played some great stuff at times, but he has the mental fortitude of an orange, so weak in the crucial moments. Was this result really ever in doubt?! No matter how well Berdych plays in the early rounds of a tournament, he almost always falls to one of the Big 4 in the latter stages, he is not a del Potro/Cilic who can actually beat them when it matters. Not to take away from Fed, he played very well, I just tend to temper any great result when Berdych is on the other side of the net :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    This match was a microcosm of Berdych's career. Played some great stuff at times, but he has the mental fortitude of an orange, so weak in the crucial moments. Was this result really ever in doubt?! No matter how well Berdych plays in the early rounds of a tournament, he almost always falls to one of the Big 4 in the latter stages, he is not a del Potro/Cilic who can actually beat them when it matters. Not to take away from Fed, he played very well, I just tend to temper any great result when Berdych is on the other side of the net :pac:
    He's one of the very few to have beaten Fed multiple times in Slams, I'm sure Fed takes him very seriously indeed. Maybe some people fail to appreciate what Fed is actually achieving at 36, now the oldest Slam semi finalist since 1991.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Christy42 wrote: »
    https://www.google.ie/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5305971/amp/Tennys-Sandgren-hits-dehumanising-media-coverage.html

    Not even slightly. Seems to be more annoyed he got called on what he said than anything else. He should take a bit more personal responsibility for what he has said really. He seems to have deleted his tweets to try and get rid of the story more than anything else. (Unless I missed a story elsewhere where he apologised, this was all I could find).

    Hopefully he does do some introspection. Certainly I did not suggest he should be hated forever and would not hold past views against him should he come around.

    Hopefully Chung can be consistent in a few big competitions going forward.

    Yeah how dare he have his own opinion, we will like him if he agrees with us !!!

    #wrongthink

    Surely by that logic I am allowed my own opinion of Sandgren?

    The man is absolutely allowed his opinion. He is not free from the consequences of his words. Neither am I if someone thinks less of me because of this or any other post.

    And yeah I tend to dislike people more if I don't think they are a good person. Shocking admission I know.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Rob2D


    Be careful of Chung tho .... he is like a young Djokovic.

    Super interested to see how he handles Fed. The kids these days are great little ball bashers and runners, left right left right. But Fed is from a different era, Chung might not have a clue how to deal with him at all.

    Can't wait! :pac:

    Also, if Fed makes it to the final, does he get number 1 again? Or does he have to win it out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 706 ✭✭✭al87987


    Rob2D wrote: »
    Super interested to see how he handles Fed. The kids these days are great little ball bashers and runners, left right left right. But Fed is from a different era, Chung might not have a clue how to deal with him at all.

    Can't wait! :pac:

    Also, if Fed makes it to the final, does he get number 1 again? Or does he have to win it out?

    He's protecting his points from last year so if he wins, he's still number 2 but only 155 points off Rafa.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 620 ✭✭✭WickIow Brave


    Good article
    http://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/tennys-sandgren-has-every-right-to-be-fuming/news-story/79addf6f47b3c94d91c45b68cae2f9d5

    The left wing media really are scum, taking things out of context for their little witch hunt.

    As if right wing hate rags are such paragons of virtue and never lie? People on the right need to stop being little snowflakes and being so offended when they are called out on their racism, misogyny, homophobia etc. I find it bizarre that they are offended by things like the very existence of gay and trans people and Muslims. Stop looking for things to be offended by, especially people just simply existing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    As if right wing hate rags are such paragons of virtue and never lie? People on the right need to stop being little snowflakes and being so offended when they are called out on their racism, misogyny, homophobia etc. I find it bizarre that they are offended by things like the very existence of gay and trans people and Muslims. Stop looking for things to be offended by, especially people just simply existing.

    What are you on about ?

    Tennys is a racist and a misogynist now ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Rob2D wrote: »
    Super interested to see how he handles Fed. The kids these days are great little ball bashers and runners, left right left right. But Fed is from a different era, Chung might not have a clue how to deal with him at all.

    Can't wait! :pac:

    Also, if Fed makes it to the final, does he get number 1 again? Or does he have to win it out?

    Yep, I think his 2nd serve is weak tho, it could prove crucial for Federer to exploit.
    He gets that sorted out tho, in the next few years we could be looking at a multi slam winner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Time spent on court:

    Federer: 9 hrs 48
    Chung: 11 hrs 55 (+3 hrs 00 doubles)
    Cilic: 14 hrs 45
    Edmund: 14 hrs 48


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    Caro v Mertens looks and interesting matchup. Be some story if Wozniacki came back from the dead in round 2 and won the title but Mertens looked immense against Svitolina. Coming off a tour win in Hobart and hasn't dropped a set yet I fancy her to pull of the upset tonight.

    Kerber looks very formidable though and her matchups were probably the most difficult. Fancy her to beat Halep and ultimately win her 3rd slam on Saturday.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Rob2D wrote: »
    Well I sure as hell wouldn't like to end up in the middle of a gay club either. Doesn't mean I have anything against the community.

    I've seen some interviews with Sandgren now and bar the Jesus nonsense he seems like quite a nice guy. I'd have a pint with him. And if he wants to believe in some conspiracy theory then fine. I'm friends with guys who believe in a lot weirder ****e than that :pac:

    Super interested in what Chung's gonna do now. And I wouldn't write Fed off so easily. Gonna be a good match I think. Now if I can just watch some of it without anyone at work noticing!

    Why, what's wrong with gay clubs?

    If you wouldn't like to end up in one then that's fine. Afterwards posting on a public forum that your "eyes are bleeding", "no one should see that" and about the "trannies" inside then that would rather suggest you do have something against the community.

    It's great that despite evidence to the contrary you still appear to believe he's a nice guy, but I think as has already been presented his behaviour has gone a little bit beyond believing in conspiracy theories.
    SO ****ING WHAT !!! ?

    My eyes would be bleeding if I went into a gay club,
    just like they would be if I went to a one direction concert, doesn't make me a homophobe.


    Stop looking to be offended.

    What a silly, nonsensical comparison that makes no sense at all. It's patently obvious by what he tweeted what he was implying. If you genuinely can't see what was wrong with that statement, then.. I don't really know what to say to you? Oh and yeah, definitely not a homophobe ;)
    Yeah how dare he have his own opinion, we will like him if he agrees with us !!!

    #wrongthink

    I reserve the right to dislike people who behave appallingly. He's more than entitled to his opinions, and likewise people are entitled to have opinions on his opinions. That's how it works! :)

    #dumbhashtag


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Forgot to comment on last night's action.. Kerber looked pretty formidable against Keys. It's pretty easy for her though, just keep retrieving and wait for the wild errors to flow. Keys needed to play like she did against Garcia, and obviously she was far from it. Very excited to see who makes the final, I think Mertens bizarrely has the best chance of stopping Kerber now. Harder to play someone you've never played before, you don't know what to expect. Well I guess they did play Hopman Cup a couple of weeks back, but that was an exho.

    Disappointing that Berdych rolled over for Federer again. Didn't see the match and was checking the scores. Allowed myself to get a little excited when I saw Berdych was up 5-2 in the first set, only to check later and he was down two sets and a break :pac: Cilic probably has the best chance of stopping Federer now, but I don't want him to win either. I'd love Chung or Edmund to win, but probably not gonna happen.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭emo72


    Had to scroll up to the top of the page to see what thread I was in. I thought after hours and another thread about alt right and lefties, or was it gay or trans thread. Bizarre.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭ballyargus


    Very disappointed that both (men's) semi finals aren't on the same day. I always love SF day in other events because of the epic double-header. It also means players get approximately the same amount of rest before the final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Some courage from both these players. Truly epic s/f.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Have to admit I doubted she had it in her but Halep gets it done on 5th mp. Think Woz will be happy enough, hard final to call though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    Disapointed Kerber lost and more so Halep got through. Boring style, boring personality. Find it very hard to root for her. Wozniacki doesn't play attractive tennis either IMO but at least she comes across as nice and friendly. If I had to choose on Saturday I'd go with her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Looks like both Edmund and Cilic struggling here physically.

    Probably a misleading enough score in that most service games were tight and Edmund had two break points in game 1.

    Finally either Wozniacki or Halep will land a major.

    Agree with the annoyance about the Men's semis being different days.

    Each slam has an annoying quirk with scheduling


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    emo72 wrote: »
    Had to scroll up to the top of the page to see what thread I was in. I thought after hours and another thread about alt right and lefties, or was it gay or trans thread. Bizarre.

    Hear hear

    But it's the world we live in these days I'm afraid :( I'd imagine we're not far from professional sports stars having to deactivate Social Media completely?

    I try my best to stay away from twitter as it's full of nutjobs, but it's very hard to avoid it completely as you can see!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    I really hope Chung can do something v Federer, because if it's another Federer Cilic final - it will be a boring 3-0 snoozefest.

    But again I want Federer to reach 20 slams ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?

    https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136

    You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it?

    People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:

    Christ indeed! Where on earth do you find the time to forensically examine the political and ideological leanings of every single person you admire in the sports world or any other world?!? Even in your own world?
    Because I assume you do in order to ensure that you can be seen to be condemning anyone who doesn’t tick all the boxes?
    You must be exhausted?
    Tell us, what does Roger Federer think about the situation in Myanmar?
    How does Rafael Nadal feel about transgender rights, you must know, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,065 ✭✭✭Christy42


    splinter65 wrote: »
    What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?

    https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136

    You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it?

    People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:

    Christ indeed! Where on earth do you find the time to forensically examine the political and ideological leanings of every single person you admire in the sports world or any other world?!? Even in your own world?
    Because I assume you do in order to ensure that you can be seen to be condemning anyone who doesn’t tick all the boxes?
    You must be exhausted?
    Tell us, what does Roger Federer think about the situation in Myanmar?
    How does Rafael Nadal feel about transgender rights, you must know, right?
    Why must they know everyone's political leanings? Someone made it obvious and they went on that. Should they shut out this information?

    Someone above went on Halep's personality for not liking her. I feel like that is their opinion which is fair enough. I did not insist that they make sure they know how they like the personality of every other sports person. Halep has obviously shown enough of her personality to turn off this poster. Maybe if he knew them better the poster would dislike Kerber more. Who knows but I am not exactly going to insist that that the relevant poster finds out. They based their opinion of that person based on whst they know of them. I feel like that is fair enough. You don't need to do a big investigation on each sports star.

    It seems weird that of all the reasons why people take a dislike to different players that a player coming across as homophobic is seen as the worst reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    What on Earth am I reading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Jesus’s lads, WTF!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,919 ✭✭✭RosyLily


    Let's stick to discussing the Aussie Open. Save the right/left, racist/not racist stuff for another time. And another thread.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Christ indeed! Where on earth do you find the time to forensically examine the political and ideological leanings of every single person you admire in the sports world or any other world?!? Even in your own world?
    Because I assume you do in order to ensure that you can be seen to be condemning anyone who doesn’t tick all the boxes?
    You must be exhausted?
    Tell us, what does Roger Federer think about the situation in Myanmar?
    How does Rafael Nadal feel about transgender rights, you must know, right?

    What the hell are you even talking about? :confused: I assume most people are good people until I have reason to believe otherwise. Sandragen's distasteful tweets came to my attention as other retweeted/blogged about them. Very little time was needed to "forensically examine" this, given the rolling news feed nature of social media sites, stuff from years ago can literally be found in seconds. Are you aware of how the internet works?

    Not exhausted either, on the contrary you're the one who seems to be getting a bit excited about it all. Have no idea what Federer thinks about the situation in Myanmar or how Nadal feels about transgender rights, nor do I understand it's relevance to this conversation, but I guess if you want to find out you could maybe Google it? :confused:
    Christy42 wrote: »
    It seems weird that of all the reasons why people take a dislike to different players that a player coming across as homophobic is seen as the worst reason.

    I wouldn't say it's the worst, it's just that people on here were defending him and trying to explain it away when it was probably among the least defensible things he'd said.
    Seomra50 wrote: »
    There is nothing wrong with not liking gay clubs. Personally I find the sight of two men kissing disgusting, and there is nothing wrong with that. We are all allowed are personal tastes. What's ironic is that you condemn someone for feelings that they can't help, which is very similar to someone condemning someone for being attracted to the same sex, feelings they can't help. So I view your reasoning similar to those who are intolerant of gay people.

    Not even gonna touch this, just gonna wait for you to be banned again :pac:


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,534 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Anyway, didn't think Halep would beat Kerber. Talk about having a lot on the line going into the final; both slamless #1's, both have already lost two slam finals, both have saved match points to get here and both would leave with the #1 ranking as well a slam. We've had grand slam finals before where both were competing for the #1 ranking (I think) but has there been one where both players were competing for both? Either way it's a winner takes all affair, and it'll be such a tough loss for whoever the loser is. I know I complain about her but I think I want Wozniacki to win, feel like she'd deserve it after all the sh*t that was thrown her way when she was #1. Wouldn't care too much either if Halep does it either, but I'd never have thought she'd win her first slam outside of clay. I just hope it's a good match.

    Not sure I should even bother with Federer-Chung, is there any hope of an upset there?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Can't find whether Halep would be the first Slam winner to have saved match points in TWO earlier rounds. I'd strongly favour her, Woz again showed a lot of nerves in closing out the 2nd set.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭Rekop dog


    Can't find whether Halep would be the first Slam winner to have saved match points in TWO earlier rounds. I'd strongly favour her, Woz again showed a lot of nerves in closing out the 2nd set.

    Shows the fine lines between success and failure that both finalists have come back from almost certain elimination to be in with of a chance of winning the title.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    Seomra51 wrote: »

    Back to the tennis, it seems it was a step too far for Edmund, hopeful he learns from this and comes back stronger.

    I like him, but I'd doubt it tbh

    Most likely will be his only slam semi, he's inconsistent and mentally suspect

    In reality he'd a nice draw and GD was terrible all week (kyrgios match aside)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,736 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    jr86 wrote: »
    I like him, but I'd doubt it tbh

    Most likely will be his only slam semi, he's inconsistent and mentally suspect

    In reality he'd a nice draw and GD was terrible all week (kyrgios match aside)

    A bit harsh on Edmund. He has been playing really well that last couple of years and has been making steady progress. I think today was a step to far though. I really think that you need to get to the latter stages of tournament's to build up the necessary reserves to win the tournament. If he can keep continue the progress i can see him landing a couple of slams.

    I am looking forward to the ladies final, so much on the line for both players. My heart says Wozniacki and my head says Halep. Would love to see Wozniacki to get over the line.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,930 ✭✭✭jr86


    To be honest id eat my hat if Edmund ever won a slam never mind a few! They waited a good 70 odd years for murray!


  • Registered Users Posts: 695 ✭✭✭lostcat



    Not sure I should even bother with Federer-Chung, is there any hope of an upset there?

    Hard to see it.

    Chung looks quite good however;
    -Zverev went away in the last set.
    - against Djokovic, he got out in front in each set but Djokovic (with a hindered serve etc.) managed to almost reel him back in each time.

    Having watched some of the Djokovic match again, it was a very good match and Djokovic actually played very well.

    Chung does play a bit like a 'mini Djoko' and if that comparison extends to a similar 'screw you' mentality, it will be very interesting.

    Federer-Djokovic has been by far my most enjoyable paring in recent years, and i'm interested in seeing if Federer-'Mini Djok' can compare.


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