splinter65 wrote: » Until the age of social media we had no idea what ideologies or politics any sports stars espoused. We know nothing about so many we’ve idolized all over the years. Anyone who is judging and condemning a sports person on their twitter/Facebook account needs a swift kick up the butt. Just enjoy the sports and stop your histrionics.
yerwanthere123 wrote: » What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136 You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it? People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes:
Moist Bread wrote: » yerwanthere123 wrote: » What the hell? Did you, or any of the people who liked your post, actually see any of what he's posted? Are you aware that he's engaged with many a racist on Twitter, preaches the nonsense posted by the Hopkins person from The Apprentice, and posts homophobia such as this?https://twitter.com/hecairns/status/955525238531547136 You don't have to grab your pitchfork, but people are perfectly entitled to call him out on his poor behaviour. If you don't think what he said in the above tweet is wrong then.. maybe you agree with it? People have been discriminated against enough without having to put up with his kind of nonsense, so don't bother trying to dismiss it as "histrionics". Christ :rolleyes: I find this interesting, the person who retweeted this is nearly as bad as him for posting it. It's still out there now for people to get offended about. Isn't that the problem? People will discriminate in their own minds all the time, you cannot police thought, can you? He deleted it. It should stay that way. The reality is people don't want him to change and see the error of his ways, they just want to virtue signal and feel self righteous.
Christy42 wrote: » No one is policing his thoughts. You can still call someone out for being a horrible person. The guy is still free to think what he likes. Does not mean people have to call him a nice person. No the person retweeting it is not as bad. Pointing out homophobia is not as bad as homophobia. That one seems obvious enough. He is not free from the consequences of what he said. Even if he realised later it was a bad pr move.
yerwanthere123 wrote: » maybe you agree with it?
Moist Bread wrote: » Christy42 wrote: » No one is policing his thoughts. You can still call someone out for being a horrible person. The guy is still free to think what he likes. Does not mean people have to call him a nice person. No the person retweeting it is not as bad. Pointing out homophobia is not as bad as homophobia. That one seems obvious enough. He is not free from the consequences of what he said. Even if he realised later it was a bad pr move. Is he forever to be hated then? Just people thinking of him as this disgusting person till the end of time for posting his misguided thoughts. Deleting the comments at least mean he has thought about it, albeit most likely from a PR standpoint but hopefully it will make him reevaluate his stance. Did he apoligize? I only see this call out culture doing any good if it actually changes peoples minds. It seems to me like it's straight up virtue signaling. Anway, I agree people can not like it and call it out, but sometimes I question their motives.
Mickeyswish wrote: » I don't see Federer getting past Berdych, even if he does, I think he will fall at semi final or final. His level isn't high enough to win it this year.
Christy42 wrote: » https://www.google.ie/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5305971/amp/Tennys-Sandgren-hits-dehumanising-media-coverage.html Not even slightly. Seems to be more annoyed he got called on what he said than anything else. He should take a bit more personal responsibility for what he has said really. He seems to have deleted his tweets to try and get rid of the story more than anything else. (Unless I missed a story elsewhere where he apologised, this was all I could find). Hopefully he does do some introspection. Certainly I did not suggest he should be hated forever and would not hold past views against him should he come around. Hopefully Chung can be consistent in a few big competitions going forward.
Chivito550 wrote: » You were saying?
dominatinMC wrote: » This match was a microcosm of Berdych's career. Played some great stuff at times, but he has the mental fortitude of an orange, so weak in the crucial moments. Was this result really ever in doubt?! No matter how well Berdych plays in the early rounds of a tournament, he almost always falls to one of the Big 4 in the latter stages, he is not a del Potro/Cilic who can actually beat them when it matters. Not to take away from Fed, he played very well, I just tend to temper any great result when Berdych is on the other side of the net :pac:
Hector Savage wrote: » Christy42 wrote: » https://www.google.ie/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-5305971/amp/Tennys-Sandgren-hits-dehumanising-media-coverage.html Not even slightly. Seems to be more annoyed he got called on what he said than anything else. He should take a bit more personal responsibility for what he has said really. He seems to have deleted his tweets to try and get rid of the story more than anything else. (Unless I missed a story elsewhere where he apologised, this was all I could find). Hopefully he does do some introspection. Certainly I did not suggest he should be hated forever and would not hold past views against him should he come around. Hopefully Chung can be consistent in a few big competitions going forward. Yeah how dare he have his own opinion, we will like him if he agrees with us !!! #wrongthink
Hector Savage wrote: » Be careful of Chung tho .... he is like a young Djokovic.
Rob2D wrote: » Super interested to see how he handles Fed. The kids these days are great little ball bashers and runners, left right left right. But Fed is from a different era, Chung might not have a clue how to deal with him at all. Can't wait! :pac: Also, if Fed makes it to the final, does he get number 1 again? Or does he have to win it out?
Hector Savage wrote: » Good articlehttp://www.news.com.au/sport/tennis/tennys-sandgren-has-every-right-to-be-fuming/news-story/79addf6f47b3c94d91c45b68cae2f9d5 The left wing media really are scum, taking things out of context for their little witch hunt.
WickIow Brave wrote: » As if right wing hate rags are such paragons of virtue and never lie? People on the right need to stop being little snowflakes and being so offended when they are called out on their racism, misogyny, homophobia etc. I find it bizarre that they are offended by things like the very existence of gay and trans people and Muslims. Stop looking for things to be offended by, especially people just simply existing.
Rob2D wrote: » Well I sure as hell wouldn't like to end up in the middle of a gay club either. Doesn't mean I have anything against the community. I've seen some interviews with Sandgren now and bar the Jesus nonsense he seems like quite a nice guy. I'd have a pint with him. And if he wants to believe in some conspiracy theory then fine. I'm friends with guys who believe in a lot weirder ****e than that :pac: Super interested in what Chung's gonna do now. And I wouldn't write Fed off so easily. Gonna be a good match I think. Now if I can just watch some of it without anyone at work noticing!
Hector Savage wrote: » SO ****ING WHAT !!! ?My eyes would be bleeding if I went into a gay club, just like they would be if I went to a one direction concert, doesn't make me a homophobe. Stop looking to be offended.
Hector Savage wrote: » Yeah how dare he have his own opinion, we will like him if he agrees with us !!! #wrongthink