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Lying on CV

  • 19-10-2018 9:57pm
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Little Less Conversation


    Who has done it and how do people get away with it?

    I'm doing a course and they want me to bring in my CV on Monday but I don't know what to put on it. I'm stuck with a gap on my CV due to the recession. It's a big gap of three years and I don't know how to fill it up. It's a long time without work but then the time flew by quickly at the same time. How do I fill in a gap like this to make myself look good?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    You were in Australia working on a farm/bar/building site for three years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,254 ✭✭✭Kevin Finnerty


    At home minding the sick dog.


    The one about Australia above^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,025 ✭✭✭3DataModem


    Caring for ill relative.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    Just be honest and say you spent 3 years at home tugging your wire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Prison , foreign legion ... Be creative.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    If I could turn the page
    In time then I'd rearrange
    Just a day or two
    Close my, close my, close my eyes

    Tell me lies
    Tell me sweet little lies

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Vincent Vega


    Sure, you were working with me at HMV ;) Or was it Xtra Vision?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,245 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Who has done it and how do people get away with it?

    I'm doing a course and they want me to bring in my CV on Monday but I don't know what to put on it. I'm stuck with a gap on my CV due to the recession. It's a big gap of three years and I don't know how to fill it up. It's a long time without work but then the time flew by quickly at the same time. How do I fill in a gap like this to make myself look good?

    The 3 years flew quickly and you weren't working, wow.
    What were you doing to pass the time?




  • Sure, you were working with me at HMV ;) Or was it Xtra Vision?

    ^^ I’ve got that on my CV for the gap :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,298 ✭✭✭Snotty


    Just say employeed by Peru government. Any further questions can be answered with "that's classified".

    Hell, I'd hire you with that on your cv


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  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭PapaOscar


    Some jobs are now asking for a social welfare letter,so be careful with the lies they can come back to haunt you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,146 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    I remember seeing something here in AH where someone said they applied for a job as lifeguard in a local swimming pool but they couldn’t swim. I thought it was one of the funniest things I ever read.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    ^^ I’ve got that on my CV for the gap :pac:

    Genius


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    Anglo Irish Bank


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 madwidow


    Id rather pull of the heart strings and say to care for a family member. Generally if there is gap you have to account for it in the interview


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    PapaOscar wrote: »
    Some jobs are now asking for a social welfare letter, so be careful with the lies they can come back to haunt you.

    really? can they do that? legally?


  • Registered Users Posts: 46 madwidow


    fryup wrote: »
    really? can they do that? legally?
    My job did. And that was for 9 months gap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    Go full Hemingway on it. Companies are lying cnuts too and more than half the jobs will either be recruiter scams or already due to be filled internally or be lined up for the hiring managers nephew/cousin etc. Have at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    Just say you didn't feel like working.
    And now you do.

    You have to say it in a way that makes them give you the job.
    If they don't they're arseholes and not worth working for.


    I'm only half joking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,558 ✭✭✭✭dreamers75


    3 years without working in a job boom. best of luck with that.

    Porbably best for both involved that you put nothing in.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Go full Hemingway on it. Companies are lying cnuts too and more than half the jobs will either be recruiter scams or already due to be filled internally or be lined up for the hiring managers nephew/cousin etc. Have at it.
    Socking it to the man isn't going to help them one bit.

    Any self employed relative or friend who would say you did bits of work for them?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    dreamers75 wrote: »
    3 years without working in a job boom. best of luck with that.

    Porbably best for both involved that you put nothing in.
    You missed the recession bit of their post.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,841 ✭✭✭buried


    Just say the truth. You ended up doing nothing for a few years, but now you are sick and tired of doing nothing, you realise now after three years of doing nothing that that it wasn't the best plan in the world and that you sure as hell don't want to go back to it so you are going to make sure that you never will. Just say the truth, don't bull$hit or lie, they'll smell it anyways. Say the truth then you won't have to try to remember any lies you told.

    "You have disgraced yourselves again" - W. B. Yeats



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 796 ✭✭✭Sycamore Tree


    What career are you in?

    Pick a company that is no longer a going concern.

    People lie all the time on their CV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    fryup wrote: »
    really? can they do that? legally?
    madwidow wrote: »
    My job did. And that was for 9 months gap

    did they tell you beforehand that they would?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Go full Hemingway on it. Companies are lying cnuts too and more than half the jobs will either be recruiter scams or already due to be filled internally or be lined up for the hiring managers nephew/cousin etc. Have at it.

    Recruiter scams? Do they not need somebody to sign a contract in order to get paid? Even if a new employee leaves before a specified date they can’t get paid? Please explain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    Socking it to the man isn't going to help them one bit.

    Any self employed relative or friend who would say you did bits of work for them?

    Or random wino you could throw a crisp €20 to vouch for your 3 year stint as their personal investment consultant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    Really depends on the position. I'm reviewing CVs at the moment and I'm more interested in the skill set and experience. I'm not going to nit pick about a gap of a year or two in the work experience as I just assume they were unemployed (especially as we've recently emerged from a recession) or on a career break or whatever. That said, it's a quite niche, mid level to senior position in a technical role that we're trying to fill.

    Everybody pads out or 'emphasizes' a CV. Just don't pretend to have a specific skill you don't as they'll sniff it out in the interview or later. I know pretty much right away if somebody is spoofing a skill in an interview.


  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭PapaOscar


    Stan. wrote: »
    I never once bumbed off the state any time I was unemployed. What kind of a letter could they provide for me?

    First of all its not bumming off the state,some people get let go and need help which they are entitled to.To answer your question the SW could provide a letter to state you never claimed from them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 95 ✭✭PapaOscar


    fryup wrote: »
    really? can they do that? legally?

    Not sure on the legality of it.Particular jobs i went for required a 10 year verifiable background check.I wasnt going to argue as i didnt have anything to hide.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    KevinCavan wrote: »
    Recruiter scams? Do they not need somebody to sign a contract in order to get paid? Even if a new employee leaves before a sp citied date they can’t get paid? Please explain.

    Essentially they do but numbers on their books gives them a nice PR/ego/profile boost. Some eejits will even put references on the CV. Jackpot for those pondsuckers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    engiweirdo wrote: »
    Essentially they do but numbers on their books gives them a nice PR/ego/profile boost. Some eejits will even put references on the CV. Jackpot for those pondsuckers.

    Smells of b.s. to be honest. Think recruiters get a bad name overall, but you opinion doesn’t hold water. How can a recruiter conduct a scam if their commission depends on hiring through official channels?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭engiweirdo


    KevinCavan wrote: »
    Smells of b.s. to be honest. Think recruiters get a bad name overall, but you opinion doesn’t hold water. How can a recruiter conduct a scam if their commission depends on hiring through official channels?

    A nice one I had to deal with recently: Applied for a "Graduate Engineer" position that was posted on indeed. Contacted the day after and asked to attend the recruiters office to talk about the role. When I did I was told the role in question was filled, will keep you in mind in future and.....oh by the way we also do temp work for clients, will I put you forward for that......Bingo, the entire purpose of this meeting. The "Engineering" position was advertised again this week. Absolute pondlife.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 38 WinOrLearn BusFighter


    Can't you lie away about the things that you sense they're unlikely follow up on?? That's what I've been doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^

    as long as you don't mention that internship with NASA;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,475 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Three years doing nothing? Not even volunteering or studying or learning a new skill? Good luck with that, having sat in interview panels it’ll be very obvious it’s been ages since you worked as the most recent job/s is usually a major discussion of most interviews. Followed by references for same.
    The “recession” won’t cut it either seen as that ended around 2012. It’ll just scream lazy and no initiative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,470 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    Tell them you were working as a professional street racing organizer.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If you lie on a CV it will get wrinkled.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    Tell them the truth.

    A lot people got done over because of the recession.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Say you were looking after a sick relative, travelled abroad to use your savings, say you studied and improved certain areas of knowledge or skill, theres plenty of excuses

    And me Ive lied on CVs to make myself look better, I only do it if I know I couldnt be caught out on it and that Id be able to provide the standards of skills I talked about in the CV, theres no point lying on a CV to get a job and then youre just completely incapable and incompetent for the role when you start


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,459 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    It's for a course. Not a job.

    Put whatever the hell you want down. Racing pigeon trainer if you like..

    Is it the last three years that you were idle or was it during the actual recession? And you've been in employment since?

    Because saying you've been out of work for the last three years due to the recession is a bit weak given we're a good few years out of recession. I presume you meant a three year gap during the recession. Only thing that makes much sense really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭Motivator


    I have a good education but my work experience is pretty weak. I spent a few years working in a low skilled job for poor money that I was over qualified for. I went through a tough time mentally I just didn’t have the confidence to look for something better. When i applied for my current role it was brought up at the end of the interview. After I bigged myself up in the interview they asked why I spent more years working in that position than I had done in the sort of roles that qualified me for the position I was interviewing for.

    I was up front and honest about it and although in my head I was thinking that if I tell them about mental health issues that affected my ability to pursue a career then there was no way they’d hire me. Thankfully I’m in a much better place now that I can be honest about things and at the end of the interview they thanked me for my honesty and they really weren’t expecting the answer I gave them. I got the job. It was out of order for them to ask but I didn’t mind, there was a genuine reason for it and I’m glad I told the truth rather than blaming the recession - something I did for an awful long time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭monkeysnapper


    Tell them you've been in prison for beating the sh1te out of last interviewer who didn't give you job .....and a good Dam beating they got ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,696 ✭✭✭dhaughton99


    What about that you worked for yourself. Ran a shop or something.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 189 ✭✭Little Less Conversation


    lawred2 wrote: »
    It's for a course. Not a job.

    Put whatever the hell you want down. Racing pigeon trainer if you like..

    Is it the last three years that you were idle or was it during the actual recession? And you've been in employment since?

    Because saying you've been out of work for the last three years due to the recession is a bit weak given we're a good few years out of recession. I presume you meant a three year gap during the recession. Only thing that makes much sense really.

    Yeah had a three year gap during the recession. I was working but now I'm doing a course. I hate lying on CVs but the reality is that work was hard to find with jobbridge taking most of the jobs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    Demand a C.V. from the interviewer. Two can play at that game!

    If they take umbrage- sue their arse off on the grounds of equality.




  • What about that you worked for yourself. Ran a shop or something.

    What shop?
    Where?
    When?
    What was the name?
    What did you sell primarily?
    Did you have business partners?
    all these questions and more

    Honestly OP tell them you worked in HMV and they’ll have no come back. They can’t expect you to provide references to a company that’s no longer operating


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Just lie on your CV if you have to. I know plenty of people that have done it. Just not if it's a really important and necessary skill.
    "Desired skill" yep, said people all of a sudden were pros at software they haven't ever gone near.
    "Desired experience" Why yes they all of a sudden had the exact experience and the exact amount of time they had wanted  for desired experience.

    Infact some people stretched their experience to make it seem like they held nearly enough the same titles of the jobs they were applying to.
    The key is that you get to a point where you don't have to lie anymore. Really, what most places are looking for can be picked up or at least fake it till you make it. Bad way of looking at it I know, but if you can step in, do the job and then get good at it. Why does it matter. Being a lazy SOB on the job is what will get you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    They might ask for the mobile phone number of a former manager at HMV - I wouldn't risk that one at all.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    They might ask for the mobile phone number of a former manager at HMV - I wouldn't risk that one at all.

    It's long enough ago though that you can just make one up


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