Lying on CV

engiweirdo

KevinCavan wrote: »

Recruiter scams? Do they not need somebody to sign a contract in order to get paid? Even if a new employee leaves before a sp citied date they can’t get paid? Please explain.

Essentially they do but numbers on their books gives them a nice PR/ego/profile boost. Some eejits will even put references on the CV. Jackpot for those pondsuckers.

KevinCavan

engiweirdo wrote: »

Essentially they do but numbers on their books gives them a nice PR/ego/profile boost. Some eejits will even put references on the CV. Jackpot for those pondsuckers.

Smells of b.s. to be honest. Think recruiters get a bad name overall, but you opinion doesn’t hold water. How can a recruiter conduct a scam if their commission depends on hiring through official channels?

engiweirdo

KevinCavan wrote: »

Smells of b.s. to be honest. Think recruiters get a bad name overall, but you opinion doesn’t hold water. How can a recruiter conduct a scam if their commission depends on hiring through official channels?

A nice one I had to deal with recently: Applied for a "Graduate Engineer" position that was posted on indeed. Contacted the day after and asked to attend the recruiters office to talk about the role. When I did I was told the role in question was filled, will keep you in mind in future and.....oh by the way we also do temp work for clients, will I put you forward for that......Bingo, the entire purpose of this meeting. The "Engineering" position was advertised again this week. Absolute pondlife.

WinOrLearn BusFighter

Can't you lie away about the things that you sense they're unlikely follow up on?? That's what I've been doing.

fryup

^^^^^^^^^^^^

as long as you don't mention that internship with NASA;)

road_high

Three years doing nothing? Not even volunteering or studying or learning a new skill? Good luck with that, having sat in interview panels it’ll be very obvious it’s been ages since you worked as the most recent job/s is usually a major discussion of most interviews. Followed by references for same.
The “recession” won’t cut it either seen as that ended around 2012. It’ll just scream lazy and no initiative

pgj2015

Tell them you were working as a professional street racing organizer.

If you lie on a CV it will get wrinkled.

Your Face

Tell them the truth.

A lot people got done over because of the recession.

wakka12

Say you were looking after a sick relative, travelled abroad to use your savings, say you studied and improved certain areas of knowledge or skill, theres plenty of excuses

And me Ive lied on CVs to make myself look better, I only do it if I know I couldnt be caught out on it and that Id be able to provide the standards of skills I talked about in the CV, theres no point lying on a CV to get a job and then youre just completely incapable and incompetent for the role when you start

lawred2

It's for a course. Not a job.

Put whatever the hell you want down. Racing pigeon trainer if you like..

Is it the last three years that you were idle or was it during the actual recession? And you've been in employment since?

Because saying you've been out of work for the last three years due to the recession is a bit weak given we're a good few years out of recession. I presume you meant a three year gap during the recession. Only thing that makes much sense really.

Motivator

I have a good education but my work experience is pretty weak. I spent a few years working in a low skilled job for poor money that I was over qualified for. I went through a tough time mentally I just didn’t have the confidence to look for something better. When i applied for my current role it was brought up at the end of the interview. After I bigged myself up in the interview they asked why I spent more years working in that position than I had done in the sort of roles that qualified me for the position I was interviewing for.

I was up front and honest about it and although in my head I was thinking that if I tell them about mental health issues that affected my ability to pursue a career then there was no way they’d hire me. Thankfully I’m in a much better place now that I can be honest about things and at the end of the interview they thanked me for my honesty and they really weren’t expecting the answer I gave them. I got the job. It was out of order for them to ask but I didn’t mind, there was a genuine reason for it and I’m glad I told the truth rather than blaming the recession - something I did for an awful long time.

monkeysnapper

Tell them you've been in prison for beating the sh1te out of last interviewer who didn't give you job .....and a good Dam beating they got ....

dhaughton99

What about that you worked for yourself. Ran a shop or something.

Little Less Conversation

lawred2 wrote: »

It's for a course. Not a job.

Put whatever the hell you want down. Racing pigeon trainer if you like..

Is it the last three years that you were idle or was it during the actual recession? And you've been in employment since?

Because saying you've been out of work for the last three years due to the recession is a bit weak given we're a good few years out of recession. I presume you meant a three year gap during the recession. Only thing that makes much sense really.

Yeah had a three year gap during the recession. I was working but now I'm doing a course. I hate lying on CVs but the reality is that work was hard to find with jobbridge taking most of the jobs.

Lucy8080

Demand a C.V. from the interviewer. Two can play at that game!

If they take umbrage- sue their arse off on the grounds of equality.

dhaughton99

dhaughton99 wrote: »

What about that you worked for yourself. Ran a shop or something.

What shop?
Where?
When?
What was the name?
What did you sell primarily?
Did you have business partners?
all these questions and more

Honestly OP tell them you worked in HMV and they’ll have no come back. They can’t expect you to provide references to a company that’s no longer operating

chrissb8

Just lie on your CV if you have to. I know plenty of people that have done it. Just not if it's a really important and necessary skill.
"Desired skill" yep, said people all of a sudden were pros at software they haven't ever gone near.
"Desired experience" Why yes they all of a sudden had the exact experience and the exact amount of time they had wanted  for desired experience.

Infact some people stretched their experience to make it seem like they held nearly enough the same titles of the jobs they were applying to.
The key is that you get to a point where you don't have to lie anymore. Really, what most places are looking for can be picked up or at least fake it till you make it. Bad way of looking at it I know, but if you can step in, do the job and then get good at it. Why does it matter. Being a lazy SOB on the job is what will get you.

Gimme A Pound

They might ask for the mobile phone number of a former manager at HMV - I wouldn't risk that one at all.

riffmongous

Cairo Rough Termination wrote: »

They might ask for the mobile phone number of a former manager at HMV - I wouldn't risk that one at all.

It's long enough ago though that you can just make one up

frosty123

PapaOscar wrote: »

Some jobs are now asking for a social welfare letter,so be careful with the lies they can come back to haunt you.

can a employer do that? without your prior knowledge??

lawred2

Little Less Conversation wrote: »

Yeah had a three year gap during the recession. I was working but now I'm doing a course. I hate lying on CVs but the reality is that work was hard to find with jobbridge taking most of the jobs.

It's a course. It doesn't matter what's on your CV.

All course organisers really care about is that you can pay the fees.

Dr Brown

Little Less Conversation wrote: »

Who has done it and how do people get away with it?

I'm doing a course and they want me to bring in my CV on Monday but I don't know what to put on it. I'm stuck with a gap on my CV due to the recession. It's a big gap of three years and I don't know how to fill it up. It's a long time without work but then the time flew by quickly at the same time. How do I fill in a gap like this to make myself look good?

Plenty of websites will give you a fake reference for a small fee.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

What did you do during the three years - any training courses, voluntary work, childminding, anything like that?

Feisar

I done up a mates CV before he headed off to Australia, it wasn't a total work of fiction however to say I took creative liberties would have been an understatement.

He's doing great now.

2011

Little Less Conversation wrote: »

I hate lying on CVs but the reality is that work was hard to find with jobbridge taking most of the jobs.

Not remotely credible that you couldn’t do something worthwhile.

Be honest, you could have volunteered, completed a few courses or found some work.

TheShow

Just say you were travelling. no more needs to be said.

LollipopJimmy

Lies on CV's are usually easy to spot, depending on the industry a reference could be sought from time in Australia also.

I've seen them all

-Caring for sick relative, usually found out when you ask one or more probing question
-Travelling - again, ask a probing question and watch the person fold
-Back to full time education 'oh have you got a cert/diploma/degree'

A good recruiter will smell the bull a mile away. Be honest, hopefully you've got something solid on your CV since which is what will be taken into account if so

josip

Wouldn't OP have to provide his P45 from HMV if he got the job?
Or has all that changed?

LollipopJimmy

josip wrote: »

Wouldn't OP have to provide his P45 from HMV if he got the job?
Or has all that changed?

A P45 only comes from your last employer