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Alf Veedersane · 01-07-2014 10:37pm

beano345 wrote: »

Anybody else think the pre-workouts on the market now are nothing special,tried a few over the last couple of weeks and would have been better off drinking a cup of coffee before training! Can anyone recommend a good pre-workout supplement? Cheers

Coffee / coffee + chocolate chip cookie

mufcboy1999 · 02-07-2014 4:08pm

beano345 wrote: »

Anybody else think the pre-workouts on the market now are nothing special,tried a few over the last couple of weeks and would have been better off drinking a cup of coffee before training! Can anyone recommend a good pre-workout supplement? Cheers

I do think they've been tapered down a bit alright but honestly if you cycled your stimulants right not that I'm saying you don't but even a cup of coffee or red bull would hit you like a train never mind a pwo.

beano345 · 02-07-2014 7:12pm

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

I do think they've been tapered down a bit alright but honestly if you cycled your stimulants right not that I'm saying you don't but even a cup of coffee or red bull would hit you like a train never mind a pwo.

I'm not very caffeine sensitive plus I'm only starting back lifting after a lay off but I remember some pre workouts being like rocket fuel,the fella in the nutrition shop was saying that a lot of the decent pre workouts were taking off the market,something to do with new laws put in place to tackle head shops

hairyslug · 02-07-2014 8:46pm

I have started to make my own pwo, I think I was lucky the 1st time and found a combination that worked, it tastes foul but it works, there's a couple of things I stick by mainly the limit of caffeine in it (I've seen quite a few out there that go over the rda) but I chop and change a couple of things the odd time to see if it makes a difference

beano345 · 02-07-2014 8:53pm

hairyslug wrote: »

I have started to make my own pwo, I think I was lucky the 1st time and found a combination that worked, it tastes foul but it works, there's a couple of things I stick by mainly the limit of caffeine in it (I've seen quite a few out there that go over the rda) but I chop and change a couple of things the odd time to see if it makes a difference

Any chance of getting your recipe? I seen caffeine tablets in a shop today was going to invest in them

hairyslug · 02-07-2014 8:56pm

beano345 wrote: »

Any chance of getting your recipe? I seen caffeine tablets in a shop today was going to invest in them

Got it written on a post -it in work, will put it up tomorrow

beano345 · 02-07-2014 8:58pm

hairyslug wrote: »

Got it written on a post -it in work, will put it up tomorrow

Sound thanks a million!

hairyslug · 03-07-2014 8:50am

beano345 wrote: »

Sound thanks a million!

I'm open to advice from anyone looking at this but this is what I use.

TAURINE X 1.5G

ARGININE X 3G

CAFFEINE X200MG

TYROSINE X2G

CREATINE X 5G

I take it about 10min before, by the time I've done my run and row it's kicked in, tastes rotten but does the trick

beano345 · 03-07-2014 12:10pm

hairyslug wrote: »

I'm open to advice from anyone looking at this but this is what I use.

TAURINE X 1.5G

ARGININE X 3G

CAFFEINE X200MG

TYROSINE X2G

CREATINE X 5G

I take it about 10min before, by the time I've done my run and row it's kicked in, tastes rotten but does the trick

Thanks again,I'm going to try pick up that stuff and give it a go

hairyslug · 03-07-2014 12:16pm

beano345 wrote: »

Thanks again,I'm going to try pick up that stuff and give it a go

Forgot to include vitamin c, been told it helps with absorption, I got all of that from bulk powders

Caliden · 03-07-2014 3:04pm

hairyslug wrote: »

I'm open to advice from anyone looking at this but this is what I use.

TAURINE X 1.5G

ARGININE X 3G

CAFFEINE X200MG

TYROSINE X2G

CREATINE X 5G

I take it about 10min before, by the time I've done my run and row it's kicked in, tastes rotten but does the trick

Any trouble getting to sleep after this? Reason I'm asking is that is has the same amount of caffeine as 2.5 cans of red bull!

gollywog · 03-07-2014 3:59pm

Caliden wrote: »

Any trouble getting to sleep after this? Reason I'm asking is that is has the same amount of caffeine as 2.5 cans of red bull!

Pro supps Mr Hyde has four hundred and sixty odd mgs if I remember correctly... That was nuts

The Guvnor · 03-07-2014 5:54pm

PWO's are mainly stim and tingle.

Low levels of caffeine are what you are after as caffeine is a vasoconstrictor and goes against a pump.

Hyde is about 419mg per scoop from memory.

Making them yourself is feasible but dependent on the ingredients will not offer much cost savings if any and some of the more important ingredients are not readily available online either.

hairyslug · 03-07-2014 9:19pm

No problem getting to sleep but I do go to the gym around 11am and my job is fairly active so it wouldn't be feeling it at all.

Before this the best pwo I tried was c4, found it very clean. I thought I had a fairly high threshold for these sorts of things but then I tried 1mr, Jesus I thought I was gonna burst the door of the gym down

beano345 · 03-07-2014 10:31pm

hairyslug wrote: »

No problem getting to sleep but I do go to the gym around 11am and my job is fairly active so it wouldn't be feeling it at all.

Before this the best pwo I tried was c4, found it very clean. I thought I had a fairly high threshold for these sorts of things but then I tried 1mr, Jesus I thought I was gonna burst the door of the gym down

C4 I found to be the pick of them lately,Jesus stop the old 1mr I thought was brilliant nearly skin ripping pumps off it,it didn't wear off halfway through the workout either.

eclectichoney · 08-07-2014 10:08pm

Hi
Just wondering if anyone has used TPW, myprotein or Go Nutrition using parcel motel? I am a bit worried the box will be oversized and won't fit in the locker, so I just wanted to check if anyone can advise on whether they normally fit or not. Would not be ordering a very large amount - maybe 4kg or so.

Thanks

Duck's hoop · 08-07-2014 10:31pm

They tend to send large enough boxes. Even with 2 kg bags.

dartstothesea · 09-07-2014 12:21pm

I've used Parcel Motel when getting 7kg or so worth of stuff and was grand. You should certainly be fine with anything under <5kg for the package size involved.

guile4582 · 09-07-2014 1:56pm

eclectichoney wrote: »

Hi
Just wondering if anyone has used TPW, myprotein or Go Nutrition using parcel motel? I am a bit worried the box will be oversized and won't fit in the locker, so I just wanted to check if anyone can advise on whether they normally fit or not. Would not be ordering a very large amount - maybe 4kg or so.

Thanks

used myprotein and ordered 2.5kg protein pack and 1kg creatine mono and pulse

all fitted easily

runawaybishop · 09-07-2014 2:16pm

myprotein 5kg boxes wouldn't have fitted in parcel motel

eclectichoney · 09-07-2014 7:41pm

Thanks guys - looks like it is hit & miss so and maybe worth contacting the seller in advance to find out the box size.

mengele · 07-08-2014 12:30am

anyone using the above product. see a lot of lads using this in the gym lately.
is it a good pre work out. any dangers taking it as I read it can make you tired afterwards ie are you still safe to drive after it.

dor843088 · 07-08-2014 6:18pm

First time iv used bulkpowders and got two free samples , chocolate peanut and chocolate cookie , both were absolutely disgusting ! I hope vanilla and chocolate are good cos iv just paid for 2.5kg of both . Anyone tasted either ? Im almost afraid to crack them open after the last 2.

Alf Veedersane · 07-08-2014 6:56pm

dor843088 wrote: »

First time iv used bulkpowders and got two free samples , chocolate peanut and chocolate cookie , both were absolutely disgusting ! I hope vanilla and chocolate are good cos iv just paid for 2.5kg of both . Anyone tasted either ? Im almost afraid to crack them open after the last 2.

Ordered for first time on Wednesday. Avoided both of those flavours even for samples because I reckoned they'd be disgusting.

Glad I could be of help :pac:

RichFTW · 07-08-2014 7:08pm

dor843088 wrote: »

First time iv used bulkpowders and got two free samples , chocolate peanut and chocolate cookie , both were absolutely disgusting ! I hope vanilla and chocolate are good cos iv just paid for 2.5kg of both . Anyone tasted either ? Im almost afraid to crack them open after the last 2.

The vanilla is fine. I use it mostly for cooking but it's drinkable as a shake. Never had the chocolate. Chocolate mint is grand though.

The chocolate peanut is intense alright, like cheap chocolate covered peanuts. I would struggle to finish a bag of it.

Edit: That is with water only. I don't use milk but would imagine it would be better, as most powders are.

dor843088 · 07-08-2014 7:18pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Ordered for first time on Wednesday. Avoided both of those flavours even for samples because I reckoned they'd be disgusting.

Glad I could be of help :pac:

I presume you mean the peanut and cookie flavours you avoided.

dor843088 · 07-08-2014 7:21pm

RichFTW wrote: »

The vanilla is fine. I use it mostly for cooking but it's drinkable as a shake. Never had the chocolate. Chocolate mint is grand though.

The chocolate peanut is intense alright, like cheap chocolate covered peanuts. I would struggle to finish a bag of it.i

Edit: That is with water only. I don't use milk but would imagine it would be better, as most powders are.

Intense is a polite way of putting it alright. Id have threw the bag out tbh if id ordered it.

Alf Veedersane · 07-08-2014 7:25pm

dor843088 wrote: »

I presume you mean the peanut and cookie flavours you avoided.

Yeah. Possibly because the only chocolate one I ever had was mint chocolate, which was horrendous and put me off chocolate anything whey 4life.

cletus van damme · 07-08-2014 7:28pm

dor843088 wrote: »

Intense is a polite way of putting it alright. Id have threw the bag out tbh if id ordered it.

I just finished 5kg of it. delish
best protein ever...

mengele · 07-08-2014 8:56pm

anyone?

runawaybishop · 08-08-2014 10:42am

dor843088 wrote: »

First time iv used bulkpowders and got two free samples , chocolate peanut and chocolate cookie , both were absolutely disgusting ! I hope vanilla and chocolate are good cos iv just paid for 2.5kg of both . Anyone tasted either ? Im almost afraid to crack them open after the last 2.

First time to tried their choc I thought it was mank but by the end of the bag (no way I was wasting a 5kg bag) I found I quite liked the taste of it.

conzy · 08-08-2014 11:47am

Nothing worse than getting 2.5kg of whey you don't like. I got banana from myprotein once. Had to hold my nose and chug it back every time. felt like puking

SpaceCowb0y · 08-08-2014 12:03pm

Thinking of supplementing with some Maca + Tribulus or some L-Arginine + Pycnogenol for a bit of increased libido, anyone ever supplemented with any of these?

Squat Rack Curler · 08-08-2014 9:10pm

It's under dosed imo but will be somewhat beneficial as opposed to not taking a pre workout.
It's not dangerous though

cletus van damme · 09-08-2014 1:41pm

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Thinking of supplementing with some Maca + Tribulus or some L-Arginine + Pycnogenol for a bit of increased libido, anyone ever supplemented with any of these?

took tribulus before , didn't get much from it
dunno about the rest

for libido I've found ZMA pretty good but took d-aspartic acid recently and it is cheap and my libido sky rocketed and felt pretty good on it.

http://www.bulkpowders.ie/shop-by-category/amino-acids/other-amino-acids/d-aspartic-acid.html

Lucas Hood · 09-08-2014 2:34pm

I struggle to get my 5 a day , seen this on bulkpowders http://www.bulkpowders.ie/shop-by-category/all-in-one-supplements/complete-greens.html would anyone say it is any use ?

Alf Veedersane · 09-08-2014 3:25pm

dor843088 wrote: »

First time iv used bulkpowders and got two free samples , chocolate peanut and chocolate cookie , both were absolutely disgusting ! I hope vanilla and chocolate are good cos iv just paid for 2.5kg of both . Anyone tasted either ? Im almost afraid to crack them open after the last 2.

Tried the BP strawberry sample this morning and it was quite nice

SpaceCowb0y · 09-08-2014 3:37pm

cletus van damme wrote: »

took tribulus before , didn't get much from it
dunno about the rest

for libido I've found ZMA pretty good but took d-aspartic acid recently and it is cheap and my libido sky rocketed and felt pretty good on it.

http://www.bulkpowders.ie/shop-by-category/amino-acids/other-amino-acids/d-aspartic-acid.html

Cheers, took ZMA before to help me sleep and it worked wonders, not sure for libido though. Ill look into the d-aspartic acid though!

cletus van damme · 09-08-2014 4:04pm

SpaceCowb0y wrote: »

Cheers, took ZMA before to help me sleep and it worked wonders, not sure for libido though. Ill look into the d-aspartic acid though!

no probs - d-aspartic takes about a week to kick in.

also trib may cause you woe with the IMB if you try and import it as it's regulated.

Redzer7 · 09-08-2014 5:39pm

Hey I've been dieting recently and wanted to implement supplements to help me out along the way, just wondering if these 3 items are good and if the 3 can be incorporated into my diet at the same time? Thanks.

Alf Veedersane · 09-08-2014 5:47pm

Image isn't showing. What are they and what are you hoping to get from them?

Redzer7 · 09-08-2014 5:49pm

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Image isn't showing. What are they and what are you hoping to get from them?

Impact Diet Whey, Strawberry Shortcake, Pouch, 3kg
Thermopure, Unflavoured, Tub, 180
CLA, Unflavoured, Tub, 60

And basically just to incorporate into my diet to help lose weight faster.

ulinbac · 10-08-2014 10:40am

Redzer7 wrote: »

Impact Diet Whey, Strawberry Shortcake, Pouch, 3kg
Thermopure, Unflavoured, Tub, 180
CLA, Unflavoured, Tub, 60

And basically just to incorporate into my diet to help lose weight faster.

Don't waste your money on Thermopure or any form of Thermobol. There is no real proof that it aids weight loss and is very high in caffeine. Same for CLA. For a cheaper option replace them with 2 cups of green tea a day. They are essentially made from green tea extract. Twinnings do a nice green tea.

Though you want to lose weight as fast as possible, it is not a race, more a change in behaviour. It will happen if ur disciplined. Eat less and move more was my motto but I never starved myself!! Eat less was more aimed toward calorie reduction.

silverharp · 15-08-2014 8:37pm

What is the deal with d-aspartic as it was mentioned in this thread ? is it making up for a deficiency in some mineral or Vit? do you take it on going or does the effect wear off?

gollywog · 15-08-2014 9:46pm

silverharp wrote: »

What is the deal with d-aspartic as it was mentioned in this thread ? is it making up for a deficiency in some mineral or Vit? do you take it on going or does the effect wear off?

The only thing I noticed was I wanted to ride everyone haha! But seriously, it spikes the libido very noticeably

The Guvnor · 16-08-2014 9:52am

IIRC DAA (D-Aspartic Acid) - 3 grams per day seems to be the sweet spot.

Plenty of unbiased reports online iirc.

The Guvnor · 16-08-2014 9:58am

For weight loss - who can say.

I've heard good reports from people on CLA.

Same goes for Green Tea.

CLA though is a slow burn and how effective well I cannot say - same goes for GT - the saying YMMV is apt here.

dor843088 · 16-08-2014 11:34am

So I finally put my unpleasant chocolate peanut/cookie experience to the back of my mind and cracked open the vanilla . Meh it'll do , its palletable . I think iv been spoiled over the years sticking with optimums stuff . Ill be going back to it . Worth the extra imo .

Alf Veedersane · 16-08-2014 12:06pm

dor843088 wrote: »

So I finally put my unpleasant chocolate peanut/cookie experience to the back of my mind and cracked open the vanilla . Meh it'll do , its palletable . I think iv been spoiled over the years sticking with optimums stuff . Ill be going back to it . Worth the extra imo .

I found the MP vanilla whey was just as tasty as the ON version, tee bee haych.

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Hi, not sure if I'm in the right place. I'm just wondering if anybody has tried Jim stoppani 12 week shortcut to muscle and size.

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