Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

worldcupfever · 05-06-2019 5:08pm

Buer wrote: »

Yeah, he's from Louth. Has captained them already this year and seems fairly highly rated although I'd be very impressed if he's better than Casey. If he is even close to that level, I fully expect the provinces to be in touch.

Bring him home leinster!

Squidgy Black · 05-06-2019 5:12pm

Buer wrote: »

Yeah, he's from Louth. Has captained them already this year and seems fairly highly rated although I'd be very impressed if he's better than Casey. If he is even close to that level, I fully expect the provinces to be in touch.

He's playing with Western Force in their sort of exhibition games, hasn't been snapped up by any of the Super Rugby teams

Lucas44 · 05-06-2019 5:35pm

Tomtom364 wrote: »

Is the Aussie scrumhalf Irish? Sounds more like that kinda comment.

Yeah he looks like a very talented prospect more in the Conor Murray mould than Casey and to be starting and a dominant figure in an Aussie side that beat baby blacks 24-0 is quite impressive. Looking forward to how he goes against Casey

AbusesToilets · 05-06-2019 6:35pm

Buer wrote: »

Yeah, he's from Louth. Has captained them already this year and seems fairly highly rated although I'd be very impressed if he's better than Casey. If he is even close to that level, I fully expect the provinces to be in touch.

Would he not be tied to Aus now, having played at this level?

worldcupfever · 05-06-2019 6:40pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Would he not be tied to Aus now, having played at this level?

No. U20 level doesnt tie you to a country.

joseywhales · 05-06-2019 7:00pm

Speaking of scrumhalves, the Welsh 9 was fantastic against Argentina

worldcupfever · 05-06-2019 7:04pm

joseywhales wrote: »

Speaking of scrumhalves, the Welsh 9 was fantastic against Argentina

Wales always have quality 9s.

endabob1 · 06-06-2019 12:05pm

AbusesToilets wrote: »

Would he not be tied to Aus now, having played at this level?

worldcupfever wrote: »

No. U20 level doesnt tie you to a country.

https://www.rugbyworld.com/news/rugbys-international-eligibility-rules-90995

Rules changed last year to stop U20's being the nominated side (Wales & England both had this set up for a while) but for Australia, like us it's always been their A team

Number 137 · 06-06-2019 3:31pm

For those interested, some stats on the English XV that faced Ireland

1. Olly Adkins - 6'1 - 113kg
2. Nic Dolly - 6'0 - 98kg
3. Joe Heyes - 6'3 - 127kg
4. Joel Kpoku - 6'5 - 126kg
5. Alex Coles - 6'6 - 113kg
6. Ted Hill - 6'5 - 110kg
7. Aaron Hinkley - 6'0 - 96kg
8. Tom Willis - 6'3 - 110kg
9. Ollie Fox - 5'11 - 82kg
10. Manu Vunipola - 6'0 - 91kg
11. Tom Seabrook - 6'1 - 96kg
12. Cameron Redpath - 6'1 - 93kg
13. Fraser Dingwall - 6'2 - 89kg
14. Ollie Sleightholme - 6'0 - 89kg
15. Tom De Glanville - 5'11 - 83kg

kingofthekong · 06-06-2019 3:45pm

anyone have ireland team to compare?, I know some of the stats are always wrong

kingofthekong · 06-06-2019 4:01pm

Does anyone know why Ireland had 3 hookers in the line up on Tuesday? were they planning on using one as a backrow incase of injury?

Martin, Mckee, adamson

Squidgy Black · 06-06-2019 4:03pm

kingofthekong wrote: »

Does anyone know why Ireland had 3 hookers in the line up on Tuesday? were they planning on using one as a backrow incase of injury?

Martin, Mckee, adamson

28 man match day squads as part of a world rugby trial, the extended squad was only 32 players.

D14Rugby · 06-06-2019 4:10pm

kingofthekong wrote: »

Does anyone know why Ireland had 3 hookers in the line up on Tuesday? were they planning on using one as a backrow incase of injury?

Martin, Mckee, adamson

The match day squad is just the full squad for this tournament

Lucas44 · 06-06-2019 4:30pm

Number 137 wrote: »

For those interested, some stats on the English XV that faced Ireland

1. Olly Adkins - 6'1 - 113kg
2. Nic Dolly - 6'0 - 98kg
3. Joe Heyes - 6'3 - 127kg
4. Joel Kpoku - 6'5 - 117kg
5. Alex Coles - 6'6 - 113kg
6. Ted Hill - 6'5 - 110kg
7. Aaron Hinkley - 6'0 - 100kg
8. Tom Willis - 6'3 - 110kg
9. Ollie Fox - 5'11 - 82kg
10. Manu Vunipola - 6'0 - 91kg
11. Tom Seabrook - 6'1 - 96kg
12. Cameron Redpath - 6'1 - 93kg
13. Fraser Dingwall - 6'2 - 89kg
14. Ollie Sleightholme - 6'0 - 89kg
15. Tom De Glanville - 5'11 - 83kg

1. Josh wycherley - 6ft - 105kg
2. Dylan Tierney Martin -6ft - 101kg
3. Thomas Clarkson - 6’1 - 108kg
4. Charlie Ryan - 6’8 - 110kg
5. Ryan Baird - 6’6 - 107kg
6. Dave McCann - 6’4 - 99kg
7. John hodnett - 6’1 - 103kg
8. Azur Allison - 6’4 - 103kg
9. Craig Casey - 5’5 - 76kg
10. Jake flannery - 6ft - 87kg
11. Jonathan wren - 5’11 - 88kg
12. Stewart Moore - 6ft - 89kg
13. Liam turner - 5’8 - 89kg
14. Angus kernohan - 5’11 - 93kg
15. Iwan Hughes - 5’8 - 77kg

Updated weights and heights from both teams via world rugby u20 championship page

arsebiscuits1 · 06-06-2019 4:48pm

Lucas44 wrote: »

1. Josh wycherley - 6ft - 105kg
2. Dylan Tierney Martin -6ft - 101kg
3. Thomas Clarkson - 6’1 - 108kg
4. Charlie Ryan - 6’8 - 110kg
5. Ryan Baird - 6’6 - 107kg
6. Dave McCann - 6’4 - 99kg
7. John hodnett - 6’1 - 103kg
8. Azur Allison - 6’4 - 103kg
9. Craig Casey - 5’5 - 76kg
10. Jake flannery - 6ft - 87kg
11. Jonathan wren - 5’11 - 88kg
12. Stewart Moore - 6ft - 89kg
13. Liam turner - 5’8 - 89kg
14. Angus kernohan - 5’11 - 93kg
15. Iwan Hughes - 5’8 - 77kg

Updated weights and heights from both teams via world rugby u20 championship page

Fits my narrative of a disparity in coaching and attitude.

England caught behind the gainline very frequently and gave very easy metres despite being a full 5kgs heavier per man.

They and their coaching staff seemed to assume they could use their size to bully past us where as we used footwork and leg drive to get our yards

Dubinusa · 07-06-2019 1:55am

Just watched the match. The replacements for the injured players played really well.
I thought Clarkson and Hodnett really stood out.
There will probably some rotation for the Oz match.

kingofthekong · 07-06-2019 1:15pm

Team up , same team except Russel into 15 for Hughes , French injured , strange they haven't put Flannery to 15 and Healy into start after his performance. Healys us kicking game really helped us out when he came on

07-06-2019 1:23pm

kingofthekong wrote: »

Team up , same team except Russel into 15 for Hughes , French injured , strange they haven't put Flannery to 15 and Healy into start after his performance. Healys us kicking game really helped us out when he came on

England are a massive team, we couldn't play direct rugby against them. Don't know anything about the Aussies u20 team but would suspect they aren't carrying the same weight and our breakdown was so good against England that we might be hoping to hang onto the ball as opposed to a more hail mary territory game.

Looking forward to this game, the first match was a very high standard from Ireland.

kingofthekong · 07-06-2019 3:38pm

I always find it strange with Penny, and French injuries - when a player comes on for a relatively small amount of time finishes off the game walks off the pitch, looks fine and then news comes out the are ruled out for a whole tournament...

salmocab · 07-06-2019 3:45pm

My dad has standard upc, no internet or anything. This game is only been shown down south on eir sport2.

Number 137 · 07-06-2019 4:47pm

The Australian XV to play Ireland. All stats from the Australian Rugby website.

1. Angus Bell - 6'4 - 118kg
2. Lachlan Lonergan - 5'11 - 98kg
3. Josh Nasser - 6'3 - 115kg
4. Michael Wood - 6'4 - 103kg
5. Trevor Hosea - 6'8 - 117kg
6. Harry Wilson - 6'5 - 108kg
7. Fraser McReight - 6'1 - 103kg
8. Will Harris - 6'4 - 105kg
9. Michael McDonald - 5'10 - 85kg
10. Will Harrison - 5'10 - 84kg
11. Mark Nawaqanitawase - 6'3 - 97kg
12. Noah Lolesio - 5'11 - 89kg
13. Semisi Tupou - 6'0 - 91kg
14. Triston Reilly - 6'0 - 85kg
15. Isaac Lucas - 5'11 - 84kg

Lucas44 · 07-06-2019 4:56pm

Number 137 wrote: »

The Australian XV to play Ireland. All stats from the Australian Rugby website.

1. Angus Bell - 6'4 - 118kg
2. Lachlan Lonergan - 5'11 - 98kg
3. Josh Nasser - 6'3 - 115kg
4. Michael Wood - 6'4 - 103kg
5. Trevor Hosea - 6'8 - 117kg
6. Harry Wilson - 6'5 - 108kg
7. Fraser McReight - 6'1 - 103kg
8. Will Harris - 6'4 - 105kg
9. Michael McDonald - 5'10 - 85kg
10. Will Harrison - 5'10 - 84kg
11. Mark Nawaqanitawase - 6'3 - 97kg
12. Noah Lolesio - 5'11 - 89kg
13. Semisi Tupou - 6'0 - 91kg
14. Triston Reilly - 6'0 - 85kg
15. Isaac Lucas - 5'11 - 84kg

Mcreight, tupou and Lucas the standouts

2smiggy · 08-06-2019 11:54am

Any reason why Ireland are favourites for the game ? Just wondering from a gambling point of view

sydthebeat · 08-06-2019 11:56am

2smiggy wrote: »

Any reason why Ireland are favourites for the game ? Just wondering from a gambling point of view

Cos they're the dogs bollix

ClanofLams · 08-06-2019 12:04pm

Australian scrum is dodgy enough apparently. Stating the obvious but either they are very good or the NZ team is their worst crop in a long time.

shootermacg · 08-06-2019 12:16pm

what time is this on?

2smiggy · 08-06-2019 12:18pm

It's the victory over the all blacks, was not expecting Ireland to be slight favourites. Just from a purely money making point of view, seeing those odds on Australia got me interested!!

2smiggy · 08-06-2019 12:19pm

shootermacg wrote: »

what time is this on?

2.30 on eir sports 2

sydthebeat · 08-06-2019 12:42pm

2smiggy wrote: »

It's the victory over the all blacks, was not expecting Ireland to be slight favourites. Just from a purely money making point of view, seeing those odds on Australia got me interested!!

All the bookies have Ireland as slight favs.

https://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/u20-world-championships/australia-u20-v-ireland-u20/winner

The draw and handicap draw might be worth a pop

Tristram · 08-06-2019 2:46pm

How are ye watching?

08-06-2019 2:46pm

I can't get a flipping stream of this working. Is it because of EIR that this is blocked on youtube?

08-06-2019 2:51pm

https://ustreamix.su/stream.php?id=eir-sport-2&token=0e6-1b5-cc4-f4c-10d-622-ab1-c33-bd1-254-24

08-06-2019 2:52pm

Deleted User wrote: »

https://ustreamix.su/stream.php?id=eir-sport-2&token=0e6-1b5-cc4-f4c-10d-622-ab1-c33-bd1-254-24

Thanks!

shootermacg · 08-06-2019 2:54pm

Thought that was another card tbh.

08-06-2019 2:58pm

Yellow I'd imagine here.

budhabob · 08-06-2019 3:00pm

Red, think that's pretty harsh - definitely a yellow. Put alot of consideration into it though

DonVito · 08-06-2019 3:00pm

Did I miss some sort of rule change? Every high tackle is direct contact to the neck. That's why it's a high tackle. So all high tackles are red now?

I was equally confused when he yellowed the Aussie player. He said the player is significantly ducking down and the tackler couldn't do anything about it..........and then he gave him a yellow anyway.

I'm assuming I have missed a rule change because the commentators commended both calls.

2smiggy · 08-06-2019 3:00pm

Red, fairly harsh IMO, but those are the directives

08-06-2019 3:00pm

I can't believe that is a red card.

ClanofLams · 08-06-2019 3:01pm

Seems on the harsh side but they are clamping down. Almost impossible to win now you would think.

Vinnie222 · 08-06-2019 3:02pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I can't believe that is a red card.

Unfortunately its a red all day . Player knew straight away

Chris871 · 08-06-2019 3:02pm

if thats a red card no game will ever finish 15 v 15

ScissorPaperRock · 08-06-2019 3:02pm

Should be a yellow

Game over now

Lucas44 · 08-06-2019 3:03pm

Don’t think that’s a red but at the same time I don’t think tupous seat belt tackle was a yellow not much he could do when player is ducking into contact

2smiggy · 08-06-2019 3:03pm

Rugby Union is morphing into some sort of tag rugby hybred

Squidgy Black · 08-06-2019 3:03pm

That's a mental decision.

Player's ducking down, doesn't look like there's any intent, it's just poor timing and bad technique.

This is one of those things where inconsistencies in judgements that are absolutely infuriating.

All_in_Flynn · 08-06-2019 3:03pm

Harsh red.

Look heavy legged today anyway I think. Australia defence looks very strong.

Paul Smeenus · 08-06-2019 3:04pm

There's been a strong directive about safety and any tackles)contact to the head/neck. Not left with any option, really.

08-06-2019 3:05pm

Vinnie222 wrote: »

Unfortunately its a red all day . Player knew straight away

The first contact was to the shoulder, the player was low and the arm rode up. It was a relatively light impact.

I thought that might be a yellow. I'm ery surprised it's a red, as someone else posted - if this is the standard then we are rarely going to see matches finish with 30 players on the pitch.

Will be cited now and if upheld his tournament might be over. This game most likely is.

Clareman · 08-06-2019 3:08pm

That was a red all day, the player even knew it as he commited the tackle

Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

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