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Ireland Under 20 2019 6 Nations and World Championships

  • 26-06-2018 11:47pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Ireland finished 11th in the 2018 Junior World Championships following a poor world championships and a 6 nations where we had finished 3rd just ahead of Wales and Scotland but considerably behind England and France.

    Charlie Ryan, Harry Byrne, James McCarthy, Dylan Tierney are eligible again for under 20s having played in the world championships in 2018
    The 2019 Junior World Cup takes place in Argentina and the groups are below(based upon seedings from the 2018 competition)

    France/Argentina/Wales/winner of trophy
    England/Australia/Italy/Ireland
    South Africa/New Zealand/Georgia/Scotland


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,304 ✭✭✭ Dubinusa


    We were terrible in the past 2 rwc. Hopefully there is some better talent coming through.
    Although, I think the coaching may have played a role in our lackluster performances.
    Absolute horror show defensively.


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭ Locke_Lamora


    Obviously too early to call but does anyone have any opinions on best possible team, or a few standouts to watch out for in club rugby over the next year?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Obviously too early to call but does anyone have any opinions on best possible team, or a few standouts to watch out for in club rugby over the next year?

    Obviously the under 19s Who played up will be top prospects. But early to say but look at the season s 19s as many will be there or there abouts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    Liam Turner joining Lansdowne


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 ✭✭✭ academyfan0


    Obviously too early to call but does anyone have any opinions on best possible team, or a few standouts to watch out for in club rugby over the next year?

    Something like this:

    1. Callum Reid(Ulster)
    2. Billy Scannell(Munster)
    3. Michael Milne(Leinster)
    4. Ryan Baird(Leinster)
    5. Charles Ryan(Leinster)
    6. Martin Moloney(Leinster)
    7. Scott Penny(Leinster)
    8. Azur Allison(Ulster)
    9. Cormac Foley(Leinster)
    10. David Hawkshaw(Leinster)
    11. Liam Turner(Leinster)
    12. Stewart Moore(Ulster)
    13. Sean French(Munster)
    14. Aaron O'Sullivan(Leinster)
    15. Jonathan Wren(Munster)

    IMO it's probably about the same as last season talent wise.

    Munster stronger, Leinster probably about the same, Ulster weaker, Connacht stronger.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    Hugo Lennox joining Clontarf


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭✭✭ Harryclaim


    My 23 would be
    1 reid (if he plays)
    2 Tierney
    3 Milne
    4 Baird
    5 Ryan
    6 Niall Murray
    7 penny
    8 Allison
    9 Casey
    10 Byrne
    11 turner
    12 Moore
    13 French
    14 any of Phillips/osullivan/mccarthy
    15 wren
    16 scannell
    17 McKee
    18 Clarkson
    19 ahern
    20 clohessy
    21 foley
    22 hawkshaw (10 and 12 cover)
    23 Conor Hayes


  • Site Banned Posts: 14 ✭✭✭ academyfan0


    LH Props
    Callum Reid(Ulster)
    John McKee(Ulster) - u19
    Josh Wycherley(Munster)
    Donnacha Mescal(Leinster)
    Niall McEniff(Leinster)
    Daragh Bolger(Leinster)

    TH Props
    Michael Milne(Leinster)
    Thomas Clarkson(Leinster) - u19
    Luke Masters(Munster)

    Hookers
    Dylan Tierney(Connacht)
    Billy Scannell(Munster)
    Claytan Milligan(Ulster)

    Locks
    Charles Ryan(Leinster)
    Ryan Baird(Leinster)
    Niall Murray(Connacht)
    Tom Ahern(Munster) - u19


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭✭✭ Harryclaim


    LH Props
    Callum Reid(Ulster)
    John McKee(Ulster) - u19
    Josh Wycherley(Munster)
    Donnacha Mescal(Leinster)
    Niall McEniff(Leinster)
    Daragh Bolger(Leinster)

    TH Props
    Michael Milne(Leinster)
    Thomas Clarkson(Leinster) - u19
    Luke Masters(Munster)

    Hookers
    Dylan Tierney(Connacht)
    Billy Scannell(Munster)
    Claytan Milligan(Ulster)

    Locks
    Charles Ryan(Leinster)
    Ryan Baird(Leinster)
    Niall Murray(Connacht)
    Tom Ahern(Munster) - u19

    Ryan lomas will be knocking about at th too , this age groups one weakness would be depth at backrow although 2 of there best players are penny and Allison


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 ✭✭✭ Rugby123innow


    Hawkshaw going OB


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  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ArmchairQB


    Hawkshaw going OB

    Crosbie starting 10 at OB and no promotion to 1a possible for them for 3 years with new IRFU rules coming in possible Crosbie goes to centre


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 ✭✭✭ Rugby123innow


    James Mc court also along with Sean cribbin


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭✭✭ Harryclaim


    James Mc court also along with Sean cribbin

    McCourt very average wasn’t great for suttonians u20 last year


  • Registered Users Posts: 73 ✭✭✭ RockBoysarewii


    ArmchairQB wrote: »
    Crosbie starting 10 at OB and no promotion to 1a possible for them for 3 years with new IRFU rules coming in possible Crosbie goes to centre

    What new ruling?


  • Registered Users Posts: 958 ArmchairQB


    What new ruling?

    IRFU are changing format of league for 2019/20
    Their current proposal that they say will be implemented is to have a Premier 1 & 2 made up of 8 teams each with playoffs. With at least 2 teams from each province represented within both divisions. The proposal so far would mean that the top 8 finishers next season are in Prem 1 with 2 dropping to Prem 2 and 4 dropping from prem 2 to what is crrentlly 2a. there will have to be 2 connacht and 2 ulster clubs in Prem 2 so further teams from Leinster & Munster will be dropped to 2A to accomadate as no Ulster or Connacht club in 1a next year so cant qualify for Prem 1. Will be messy if they get their way and some clubs will suffer Ob right on that fringe with Naas, Wesley, Mary's etc. Tarf recruiting a gazillion players to make sure they are safe so expect alot of them not to get the game time they are expecting this year I have heard so their 2 houses must be full at this stage.Terenure recruiting well, Lansdowne heard not to active after early moves for Harry Byrne & Dave O'Connor, Marys loosing a few, Belvo with Crosbie and others back in the frame will be strong in 1b this year but Leinster teams will need to be in top 4 of 1b to guarantee Prem 2 the following year. All very messy and a few intresting weeks and months ahead. No doubt plenty of movement ahead dont see many 20s playing AIL 1a this year outside of new academy entrants, sub academy lads will struggle altough one or two could suprise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Leinster u20 JP Fanagan qualifying leagues fixtures up online
    Premier 1 Qualifiers
    Section A
    Lansdowne, Navan, MU Barnhall
    Section B
    UCD, Marys, Belvedere
    Section C
    Trinity, Wesley, Blackrock
    Section D
    Clontarf, Greystones, Terenure
    Premier 2 Qualifiers
    Section A
    Suttonians, Old Belvedere, Naas
    Section B
    Buccaneers, Seapoint, Galwegians
    Section C
    Trinity, Coolmine, Bective
    Section D
    Skerries, NUIG


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby


    Leinster u20 JP Fanagan qualifying leagues fixtures up online
    Premier 1 Qualifiers
    Section A
    Lansdowne, Navan, MU Barnhall
    Section B
    UCD, Marys, Belvedere
    Section C
    Trinity, Wesley, Blackrock
    Section D
    Clontarf, Greystones, Terenure
    Premier 2 Qualifiers
    Section A
    Suttonians, Old Belvedere, Naas
    Section B
    Buccaneers, Seapoint, Galwegians
    Section C
    Trinity, Coolmine, Bective
    Section D
    Skerries, NUIG

    3 instead of 4 this year? Some teams drop out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    3 instead of 4 this year? Some teams drop out?
    No idea. Just posted info as I saw it. Possibly less teams want to qualify for premier division or want face top sides and get a hammering. Could be larger number of clubs in 3rd division this season


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby


    No idea. Just posted info as I saw it. Possibly less teams want to qualify for premier division or want face top sides and get a hammering. Could be larger number of clubs in 3rd division this season

    Yeah looks like less teams going for prem 1 with Suttonians,NUIG,Naas,Buccs all just goin for prem 2. No Tarf or UCD seconds either


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Yeah looks like less teams going for prem 1 with Suttonians,NUIG,Naas,Buccs all just goin for prem 2. No Tarf or UCD seconds either
    None of them were in Prem 2 this year so perhaps just feel better to stay in division 3. Trinity u20s 2nds have generally been that bit stronger than other clubs so they'll stay in qualifiers.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    Adam Corcoran going to Lansdowne


  • Registered Users Posts: 579 Heymans


    Adam Corcoran going to Lansdowne


    Catleknock 7? Top class.


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    Heymans wrote: »
    Catleknock 7? Top class.

    I believe that they also have signed Liam Turner and Paddy McKenzie (Ireland u18s 10 from last season)

    James Kenny is underage for them too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    Charlie Ward from Tullow gone to Clontarf.

    They are bringing in lots of talent to an already good team


  • Registered Users Posts: 59 ✭✭✭ hoodor


    wonder where Milne, Baird and Penny end up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 458 ✭✭ stellenbosch


    Charlie Ward from Tullow gone to Clontarf.

    They are bringing in lots of talent to an already good team

    Zach Satar from CBC also joining Tarf


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    hoodor wrote: »
    wonder where Milne, Baird and Penny end up.

    AIL 1A/1B team. I believe that is a min for academy players.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 ✭✭✭ Harryclaim


    I believe that they also have signed Liam Turner and Paddy McKenzie (Ireland u18s 10 from last season)

    James Kenny is underage for them too.

    What is the obsession with James Kenny on this? Granted he had a good sct campaign and got a reward in a u19 cap out of it but he’s never proven himself at a provincial level and is extremely overrated by people on this


  • Registered Users Posts: 529 ✭✭✭ Chico Flores


    Harryclaim wrote: »
    What is the obsession with James Kenny on this? Granted he had a good sct campaign and got a reward in a u19 cap out of it but he’s never proven himself at a provincial level and is extremely overrated by people on this

    I think he has been unlucky with injuries. He is something that most Leinster 9s don't have, big and fast.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭ FrannoFan


    Harryclaim wrote: »
    What is the obsession with James Kenny on this? Granted he had a good sct campaign and got a reward in a u19 cap out of it but he’s never proven himself at a provincial level and is extremely overrated by people on this

    Not sure anyone has been "over rating" him. I just think people felt he looked a prospect in school but haven't seen a lot of him since


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