Openeir rural FTTH tracking

tsue921i8wljb3 · 21-08-2017 2:56pm

turbbo wrote: »

Okay got a reply from Eir after taking a screenshot and marking the areas to make the question I was asking clear enough so that a 5 year old would understand! Lo and behold they understood with the picture and were able to answer - answer is comical though - be prepared:

"The map is correct. Smaller exchanges are occasionally fed from larger exchanges and that is the case with X - some smaller subsidiary exchanges are now live and premises in these exchanges are connected to X exchange. It does not affect the numbers we report on as passed or live and that is why the number on the map is 150."

Was it eir retail or Openeir that responded to you?

turbbo · 21-08-2017 3:10pm

Open Eir

turbbo · 21-08-2017 3:16pm

I asked them what exchanges are fed from my local one now - awaiting a response or lack of.
To me - the map is full of nonsense like this sure if an exchange is fed from another exchange the numbers associated with the feeding exchange should be associated with that exchange not with the feeder, that's why there are a bunch of exchanges exceeding their total forecast number.
The map is unreadable at the moment as it makes no sense.

ED E · 21-08-2017 10:35pm

turbbo wrote: »

I asked them what exchanges are fed from my local one now - awaiting a response or lack of.
To me - the map is full of nonsense like this sure if an exchange is fed from another exchange the numbers associated with the feeding exchange should be associated with that exchange not with the feeder, that's why there are a bunch of exchanges exceeding their total forecast number.
The map is unreadable at the moment as it makes no sense.

Subtended exchanges cease to be so once you go NGB/NGA and with number portability your PH num is irrelevant.

turbbo · 22-08-2017 11:00am

ED E wrote: »

Subtended exchanges cease to be so once you go NGB/NGA and with number portability your PH num is irrelevant.

Sorry ED E by numbers I meant "number of premises passed" not the actual phone numbers.

Making the point that if they count a sub-exchange as part of the main exchange and then count again in that sub exchange - they could be doubling the numbers of premises passed - I don't know if they are doing that. But it's not clear how many premises are being passed as part of an exchange at the moment.
It's a seriously misleading map.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 22-08-2017 11:41am

turbbo wrote: »

I asked them what exchanges are fed from my local one now - awaiting a response or lack of.
To me - the map is full of nonsense like this sure if an exchange is fed from another exchange the numbers associated with the feeding exchange should be associated with that exchange not with the feeder, that's why there are a bunch of exchanges exceeding their total forecast number.
The map is unreadable at the moment as it makes no sense.

There is another possibility. As Castletroy is a built up area it could be the case that the 150 premises are part of the urban project. It would explain why they don't show up on the map.

Openeir make no distinction between the urban and rural numbers on the map. It makes it extremely difficult to obtain numbers for those urban areas with outskirts included in the rural project.

turbbo · 22-08-2017 1:17pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

There is another possibility. As Castletroy is a built up area it could be the case that the 150 premises are part of the urban project. It would explain why they don't show up on the map.

Openeir make no distinction between the urban and rural numbers on the map. It makes it extremely difficult to obtain numbers for those urban areas with outskirts included in the rural project.

No - because the 150 are connected through other exchanges not Castletroy according to the Open Eir rep. If they were local they would be connected directly plus I know there are no FTTH in the urban areas either via Open Eir.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 22-08-2017 1:22pm

turbbo wrote: »

No - because the 150 are connected through other exchanges not Castletroy according to the Open Eir rep. If they were local they would be connected directly plus I know there are no FTTH in the urban areas either via Open Eir.

How do you know? There are 40000 people in the area according to Wikipedia. They couldn't have cabled one estate without your knowledge. Most likely you are being fed misinformation by somebody who does not fully understand your query.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 22-08-2017 1:45pm

The exchanges rehomed to Castletroy are:

Annacotty
Castleconnell
Crossgalla
Murroe
O'Briens Bridge

Annacotty and Crossgalla mention FTTH from CTY in the document I've seen.

The Cush · 22-08-2017 2:24pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

The exchanges rehomed to Castletroy are:
Annacotty

Castleconnell

Crossgalla

Murroe

O'Briens Bridge

Annacotty and Crossgalla mention FTTH from CTY in the document I've seen.

My local exchange, Murroe, was wired for fibre from Castletoy in summer 2016. They had a problem with ducting under the railway line at the Annacotty Industrial Estate when running the core fibre, ducting was full I was told at the time.
FTTC went live this month last year and the rollout of FTTH is underway as I post.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 22-08-2017 2:33pm

The Cush wrote: »

My local exchange, Murroe, was wired for fibre from Castletoy in summer 2016. They had a problem with ducting under the railway line at the Annacotty Industrial Estate when running the core fibre, ducting was full I was told at the time.
FTTC went live this month last year and the rollout of FTTH is underway as I post.

And when it goes live the numbers will be counted separate to Castletroy I'd imagine as Castleconnell is live and has figures of it's own. I think turboo has been misled and my explanation of the urban premises is the most likely answer.

turbbo · 22-08-2017 3:58pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

And when it goes live the numbers will be counted separate to Castletroy I'd imagine as Castleconnell is live and has figures of it's own. I think turboo has been misled and my explanation of the urban premises is the most likely answer.

Your explanation sounds far more plausible no doubt, but it is contrary to what the Open Eir rep told me.
As for understanding the question - I think it's quite simple - where are the 150 premises passed?
I asked that 3 times and eventually the told me that they(150) were premises connected to other exchanges. I really don't think they would give me that answer if they had 150 premises passed in Castletroy, why would they?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 22-08-2017 4:07pm

turbbo wrote: »

Your explanation sounds far more plausible no doubt, but it is contrary to what the Open Eir rep told me.
As for understanding the question - I think it's quite simple - where are the 150 premises passed?
I asked that 3 times and eventually the told me they were premises connected to other exchanges. I really don't think they would give me that answer if they had 150 premises passed in Castletroy, why would they?

My guess is that you were dealing with someone who doesn't fully understand the situation. It smacks of an answer given in the hope that you would go away. But you're a tenacious sort!

Unless you get a list of Eircodes out of them I doubt you'll find out where the premises are if they even exist and I can't see them giving you those.

turbbo · 22-08-2017 4:18pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

My guess is that you were dealing with someone who doesn't fully understand the situation. It smacks of an answer given in the hope that you would go away. But you're a tenacious sort!

Unless you get a list of Eircodes out of them I doubt you'll find out where the premises are if they even exist and I can't see them giving you those.

As tenacious as I am - it would wear you down, asking them anything that requires more than a generic answer that they copy and paste from some spreadsheet. The eircon of old are still alive and well and are lurking in that map and the responses I've been given.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 22-08-2017 6:59pm

The Department have posted their version of eir's Q2 performance. They make it 30137 premises passed in Q2 for a total of 70324. I had it at 25407 for Q2 but my numbers are pure FTTH, the Department's numbers include an unknown number of VDSL.

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/latest-news/Pages/Latest-News.aspx

rob808 · 22-08-2017 7:21pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

The Department have posted their version of eir's Q2 performance. They make it 30137 premises passed in Q2 for a total of 70324. I had it at 25407 for Q2 but my numbers are pure FTTH, the Department's numbers include an unknown number of VDSL.

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/latest-news/Pages/Latest-News.aspx

well 10% of 300k rollout is FTTC and 90% FTTH.

turbbo · 24-08-2017 12:20pm

No replies off of Open Eir anymore. Delightful company to deal with. Clarity is the last thing it seems they want.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-09-2017 1:13am

It has been highlighted to me that eir may be overstating their FTTH numbers to their shareholders in annual reports. For example in the 31st of March report to the Department they claimed 40,114 premises but investors were told 44,00 (page 2), a discrepancy of 10%.

Again in their most recent report on page 68 they state:

"Continuing the evolution of our network, in September 2015, we rolled out our pilot FTTH program with broadband speeds of up to 1 Gb/s. Our FTTH program has since been launched commercially, and as of 30 June 2017 it passes approximately 120,000 premises across 168 regional communities. We have committed with the government to pass approximately 300,000 rural premises with FTTH by December 2018 with 80,000 of these already passed as at 30 June 2017. A"

This is in contradiction with their June report to the Department which claimed 70,324 premises passed.

turbbo · 15-09-2017 12:32pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

It has been highlighted to me that eir may be overstating their FTTH numbers to their shareholders in annual reports. For example in the 31st of March report to the Department they claimed 40,114 premises but investors were told 44,00 (page 2), a discrepancy of 10%.

Again in their most recent report on page 68 they state:

This is in contradiction with their June report to the Department which claimed 70,324 premises passed.

Yeah shareholders don't read too much into that crapola they tend to look at the accounts € is all that matters not numbers of premises passed. They do tend to BS at every level.

KOR101 · 15-09-2017 1:53pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

It has been highlighted to me that eir may be overstating their FTTH numbers to their shareholders in annual reports. For example in the 31st of March report to the Department they claimed 40,114 premises but investors were told 44,00 (page 2), a discrepancy of 10%.

Again in their most recent report on page 68 they state:

This is in contradiction with their June report to the Department which claimed 70,324 premises passed.

Repeated in this interview.

“We are now at just over 1.7m homes and businesses passed by fibre. And, just to clarify, we have 80,000 homes and firms passed as part of our rural roll-out. We will be at 101,000 by 30 September – more than a third of the way – moving to complete the 300,000 by December 2018."

“In addition to being on track, some 12,000 homes in rural Ireland are already using our fibre-to-the-home [FTTH] service.”

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/eir-richard-moat

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-09-2017 4:31pm

The map has been updated. The following areas are due to go live on the 4th of October:

Cork Cloyne
Dublin Ballyboughal
Galway Monivea
Kildare Celbridge
Mayo Barnatra
Waterford Ring

An extra 6920 premises were added bringing the total to 71724 although there are some areas listed as live with no numbers given so that total is liable to change somewhat.

The tracker has been updated.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-09-2017 4:33pm

Interesting to note turbbo that Castletroy has gone back to Winter 2018 so I guess your messages had some effect!

westyIrl · 15-09-2017 4:35pm

KOR101 wrote: »

Repeated in this interview.

“We are now at just over 1.7m homes and businesses passed by fibre. And, just to clarify, we have 80,000 homes and firms passed as part of our rural roll-out. We will be at 101,000 by 30 September – more than a third of the way – moving to complete the 300,000 by December 2018."

“In addition to being on track, some 12,000 homes in rural Ireland are already using our fibre-to-the-home [FTTH] service.”

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/eir-richard-moat

Anyone have any idea of DENCR method of verifying the numbers on the rollout?

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/commercial-investment/Pages/Rural-Deployment-Progress.aspx

The have ramping up to do if done in 2018 is the plan. Appears very back loaded going by these numbers.

Jim

rob808 · 15-09-2017 4:49pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

The map has been updated. The following areas are due to go live on the 4th of October:

Cork Cloyne
Dublin Ballyboughal
Galway Monivea
Kildare Celbridge
Mayo Barnatra
Waterford Ring

An extra 6920 premises were added bringing the total to 71724 although there are some areas listed as live with no numbers given so that total is liable to change somewhat.

The tracker has been updated.

The fibre area im in is the 4 of October Summerhill co meath even doh the live date 6 September.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-09-2017 4:49pm

westyIrl wrote: »

Anyone have any idea of DENCR method of verifying the numbers on the rollout?

http://www.dccae.gov.ie/en-ie/communications/topics/Broadband/national-broadband-plan/commercial-investment/Pages/Rural-Deployment-Progress.aspx

The have ramping up to do if done in 2018 is the plan. Appears very back loaded going by these numbers.

Jim

Take them at their word? I doubt they have the manpower to visit the four corners of Ireland checking for cable on poles. Perhaps they could do some spot checking in conjunction with Comreg.

I can't see them making the 2018 deadline myself. Some of the areas listed for the first 100K, originally March 2017 deadline, are still not live. Obviously this is going to have knock-on effects for the NBP.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-09-2017 4:51pm

rob808 wrote: »

The fibre area im in is the 4 of October Summerhill co meath even doh the live date 6 September.

The initial live date can be any number of premises. Rathoath in Meath went live with 10 premises out of 460.

Johnboy1951 · 15-09-2017 5:20pm

rob808 wrote: »

The fibre area im in is the 4 of October Summerhill co meath even doh the live date 6 September.

Is there not a one month time lapse to allow providers to sell their service before connections are made?

rob808 · 15-09-2017 5:59pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Is there not a one month time lapse to allow providers to sell their service before connections are made?

That probably it because digiweb said that when there launching this service in my area.

ED E · 15-09-2017 6:52pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

Is there not a one month time lapse to allow providers to sell their service before connections are made?

1 and 3 mo for eVDSL.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 16-09-2017 5:39pm

The alternative map has been updated.

plodder · 17-09-2017 10:01am

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

The map has been updated. The following areas are due to go live on the 4th of October:

Cork Cloyne
Dublin Ballyboughal
Galway Monivea
Kildare Celbridge
Mayo Barnatra
Waterford Ring

An extra 6920 premises were added bringing the total to 71724 although there are some areas listed as live with no numbers given so that total is liable to change somewhat.

The tracker has been updated.

That's good news for me, as they've made a lot of progress here in Oldtown as well. The splitter boxes are up on the poles and the cabling seems to be in place. I was away for a good while, so I missed it happening. I'm on a ducted section - so I guess that means the splitters are underground in that situation?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 17-09-2017 7:28pm

plodder wrote: »

That's good news for me, as they've made a lot of progress here in Oldtown as well. The splitter boxes are up on the poles and the cabling seems to be in place. I was away for a good while, so I missed it happening. I'm on a ducted section - so I guess that means the splitters are underground in that situation?

Yes, I presume they are in all those manholes that they spent time renovating.

westyIrl · 17-09-2017 7:33pm

plodder wrote: »

That's good news for me, as they've made a lot of progress here in Oldtown as well. The splitter boxes are up on the poles and the cabling seems to be in place. I was away for a good while, so I missed it happening. I'm on a ducted section - so I guess that means the splitters are underground in that situation?

Quick question that one of the more informed may be able to answer for me. Do Eir house the splitters in the exchange racks or are they mounted to poles/manholes? The majority of the pole mounted gear that I have seen appear to be just splice boxes. Makes me wonder where in fact the splitters are located? I've seen rack mounted optical splitters before but that wouldn't make greatest utilisation of the fiber network.

Jim

tsue921i8wljb3 · 17-09-2017 7:39pm

westyIrl wrote: »

Quick question that one the more informed may be able to answer for me. Do Eir house the splitters in the exchange racks or are they mounted to poles/manholes? The majority of the pole mounted gear that I have seen appear to be just splice boxes. Makes me wonder where in fact the splitters are located? I've seen rack mounted optical splitters but that wouldn't appear to make much sense for such a dispersed network.

Jim

I assume they are on the poles and manholes most likely in the splice (distribution) boxes. They are apparently using a two level split design so it would not make sense to locate them in an exchange. I'm open to correction though.

westyIrl · 17-09-2017 7:43pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

They are apparently using a two level split design.

Interesting. Any ideas on the split ratios? I heard 32x splitters mentioned a few times but that wouldn't make sense on a two level/cascaded split. Such a design would certainly make more sense for rural areas.
Jim

tsue921i8wljb3 · 17-09-2017 7:45pm

westyIrl wrote: »

Interesting. Any ideas on the split ratios? I heard 32x splitters mentioned a few times but that wouldn't make sense on a two level/cascaded split.

Jim

1:32 using 1:8 then 1:4 apparently.

The Cush · 18-09-2017 3:02am

westyIrl wrote: »

Do Eir house the splitters in the exchange racks or are they mounted to poles/manholes? The majority of the pole mounted gear that I have seen appear to be just splice boxes. Makes me wonder where in fact the splitters are located? I've seen rack mounted optical splitters before but that wouldn't make greatest utilisation of the fiber network.

The fibre splitters/splice boxes are mounted on the poles or located in the manholes. OLTs (Optical Line Terminals) located back in the exchange.

The split ratio according to an eir presentation last year, they chose a cascaded two stage splitter architecture, each fibre will have 1:32 split comprising a primary 1:8 split and a secondary 1:4 split for rural FTTH.

plodder · 18-09-2017 9:34am

westyIrl wrote: »

Quick question that one of the more informed may be able to answer for me. Do Eir house the splitters in the exchange racks or are they mounted to poles/manholes? The majority of the pole mounted gear that I have seen appear to be just splice boxes. Makes me wonder where in fact the splitters are located? I've seen rack mounted optical splitters before but that wouldn't make greatest utilisation of the fiber network.

Jim

Right, I might have been using the wrong terminology, but what you see up on the poles (or would see in the man-holes) are boxes that house the splicing/splitting gear. As others pointed out, you essentially have up to 32 subscribers sharing the same strand of fibre all the way back to the exchange. All the equipment between customer and exchange is passive and solely there for splicing. And because fibre is actually made from glass, the boxes need to be a certain size to not damage the cable and maintain its optical properties when spliced. I'd guess that optical splitters that you see on a rack are active components which might be used in exchanges, but not out in the customer network.

turbbo · 18-09-2017 10:56am

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

Interesting to note turbbo that Castletroy has gone back to Winter 2018 so I guess your messages had some effect!

haha yeah, I emailed and annoyed them a few more times - so whatever nonsense response about other exchanges being fed from it counting as 150 was actually misleading and false - got an email from the top brass and all! But they never admitted that it was a mistake - the update admits it though.
I just emailed them to thank them for updating the map as they didn't admit to anything. My tenacity has finally paid off.

:D:D

KOR101 · 05-10-2017 6:34pm

Still puzzled by this.......

, 10% of the premises that have been passed by the Eir contract to date, which is approximately 100,000 properties, have connected to pure fibre and I am told approximately 20% of those 100,000 have connected with the SIRO roll-out. Between 10% and 20% is the rate of connection to pure fibre on foot of the commercial stimulus aspect of the national broadband plan.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2017-10-04a.339&s=national+broadband+plan#g346

Johnboy1951 · 05-10-2017 6:49pm

I would wish this had been followed up on ........

Éamon Ó Cuív (Galway West, Fianna Fail)
Link to this: Individually | In context
Can the Minister confirm that not one house in this country has been connected to fibre or anything else under his national broadband scheme?

Denis Naughten (Roscommon-Galway, Independent)
Link to this: Individually | In context
That is not true.

How can Naughten say that when the NBP contracts are not even signed yet?

tsue921i8wljb3 · 05-10-2017 8:16pm

KOR101 wrote: »

Still puzzled by this.......

, 10% of the premises that have been passed by the Eir contract to date, which is approximately 100,000 properties, have connected to pure fibre and I am told approximately 20% of those 100,000 have connected with the SIRO roll-out. Between 10% and 20% is the rate of connection to pure fibre on foot of the commercial stimulus aspect of the national broadband plan.

https://www.kildarestreet.com/debates/?id=2017-10-04a.339&s=national+broadband+plan#g346

My take on it is he's claiming 10000 properties connected under the eir 300K scheme, 20000 connections for SIRO which he is taking credit for shamelessly, making the average between 10 and 20%.

These figures are in stark contrast with the latest Comreg quarterly report which had a total of 19125 FTTP nationwide. Somebody's figures don't add up.

https://www.comreg.ie/publication/quarterly-key-data-report-q2-2017

KOR101 · 05-10-2017 9:31pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

My take on it is he's claiming 10000 properties connected under the eir 300K scheme, 20000 connections for SIRO which he is taking credit for shamelessly, making the average between 10 and 20%.

These figures are in stark contrast with the latest Comreg quarterly report which had a total of 19125 FTTP nationwide. Somebody's figures don't add up.

https://www.comreg.ie/publication/quarterly-key-data-report-q2-2017

The problem here is that we know from reports on the other thread that there are certainly a fair few cases of people who are seeing themselves as live, but then finding out when they try to place an order that they are in fact not yet live.

But this could just be Eir incompetence. Chaos not conspiracy, to quote a phrase.

The difference between Eir and SIRO takeup rates and the difference with the Comreg figures at least raise the possibility that there are very sizeable problems with the figures being released by the companies..

tsue921i8wljb3 · 02-11-2017 10:20pm

The map was updated today. I don't know if they made a mistake but there was quite a small increase in numbers from the last update (~3500). Also some places are still listed as going live on the 4th of October despite having green icons on the new map. I'll give it a few days to see if they rectify the mistakes.

The following places were given due live dates:

1st Nov:

Donegal Greencastle
Galway Ahascragh
Galway Carraroe
Limerick Murroe
Offaly Edenderry
Waterford Loskeran
Wicklow Ashford

8th Nov:

Clare Killaloe
Clare Scarriff
Cork Cullen
Donegal Bunbeg
Donegal Carrigans
Donegal Castlefin
Donegal Fahan
Donegal Kilmacrenan
Donegal Narin
Donegal Newtowncunningham
Dublin Portmarnock
Galway Craughwell
Kerry Cahirciveen
Kerry Glenbeigh
Kerry Killorglin
Kerry Portmagee
Kildare Carbury
Kildare Clane
Kildare Kildangan
Kildare Kildare
Kildare Mageney
Limerick Athea
Longford Lanesboro
Longford Longford
Louth Castlebellingham
Mayo Belmullet
Meath Oldcastle
Meath Tara
Monaghan Carrickmacross
Monaghan Emyvale
Monaghan Glasslough
Tipperary Dundrum
Waterford Ferrybank
Westmeath Athlone
Wexford Blackwater
Wexford Hollyfort

plodder · 03-11-2017 12:39pm

Oldtown in Dublin had no firm date previously, but is now saying "Oct 4th" which is strange obviously, but great if true, and it tallies with Eir's own broadband checker, and their sales staff who have been selling it for a few weeks.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-11-2017 9:10pm

The tracker has been updated to reflect every delay that an area has suffered since the start of this project in September 2016. Hopefully it is fairly self explanatory, each red cell indicates a delay from the previously stated deadline.

Worryingly in the most recent update on the 2nd of November many areas have been pushed back with a large amount now stating Q4 2018 as their deadline. I believe that this project is unlikely to be completed by December 2018 and this may have knock-on effects on the NBP.

As ever if anyone spots any errors let me know and I'll try to fix them.

KOR101 · 15-11-2017 9:22pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

Worryingly in the most recent update on the 2nd of November many areas have been pushed back with a large amount now stating Q4 2018 as their deadline. I believe that this project is unlikely to be completed by December 2018 and this may have knock-on effects on the NBP.

Eir appear to be winning the arm wrestle with the government. But, I don't think it's in their interest that the NBP collapses. Siro are still a threat. Once they have their 500k 50 town project finished, they will have a base for expanding further into rural areas if no one else has got there first.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 15-11-2017 9:33pm

KOR101 wrote: »

Eir appear to be winning the arm wrestle with the government. But, I don't think it's in their interest that the NBP collapses. Siro are still a threat. Once they have their 500k 50 town project finished, they will have a base for expanding further into rural areas if no one else has got there first.

I don't believe that it is an intentional stalling on their behalf, I simply believe that they have bitten off more than they can chew. I think it was ridiculously optimistic to have 300000 homes passed by the end of 2018.

turbbo · 16-11-2017 1:16pm

Kohen Blue Cannabis wrote: »

I don't believe that it is an intentional stalling on their behalf, I simply believe that they have bitten off more than they can chew. I think it was ridiculously optimistic to have 300000 homes passed by the end of 2018.

Just ridiculous.

tsue921i8wljb3 · 17-11-2017 10:55pm

There was another update to the map today. Most of the November 1st and 8th areas have gone live however a few were delayed. 18260 premises were added in today's numbers. Again there are several areas with pushed back deadlines mainly from the end of '17 into early '18. Only three areas were given (not very precise) due dates:

November:
Monaghan|Glasslough

December:
Clare|Ogonnelloe
Kerry|Portmagee

The tracker has been updated.

Openeir rural FTTH tracking

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