Farming Chitchat 10/10- Now VIRUS-FREE!

whelan2 · 11-08-2020 9:19pm

A girl I went to school with died of cancer today 47 years old. Only diagnosed after Christmas. Her mother died of cancer 4 weeks ago. Her brother was told his cancer was back the day his mother died. Some families have so much ****

Lady Haywire · 11-08-2020 9:30pm

whelan2 wrote: »

A girl I went to school with died of cancer today 47 years old. Only diagnosed after Christmas. Her mother died of cancer 4 weeks ago. Her brother was told his cancer was back the day his mother died. Some families have so much ****

Ah feck. That's terrible.

whelan2 · 11-08-2020 9:32pm

Lady Haywire wrote: »

Ah feck. That's terrible.

Ye very sad. The father died of cancer a few years ago. You'd think in this day and age there would be some sort of cure for it. God love the family

kollegeknight · 11-08-2020 9:38pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye very sad. The father died of cancer a few years ago. You'd think in this day and age there would be some sort of cure for it. God love the family

That’s awful. I’ve one uncle who died of a heart attack, the rest of my aunts/uncles and my father died of cancer. ThAts 9 out of 14 (4 still alive)

I always say it a cure for cancer that we should be supporting when we are looking for charities to sponsor.

Reggie. · 11-08-2020 10:19pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye very sad. The father died of cancer a few years ago. You'd think in this day and age there would be some sort of cure for it. God love the family

Has to be in the genes

whelan2 · 11-08-2020 10:23pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Has to be in the genes

Ye. Heartbreaking though. You think things are bad but with funeral restrictions at the moment etc the family wont have a proper send off for their mother or sister.

Say my name · 11-08-2020 10:47pm

kollegeknight wrote: »

That’s awful. I’ve one uncle who died of a heart attack, the rest of my aunts/uncles and my father died of cancer. ThAts 9 out of 14 (4 still alive)

I always say it a cure for cancer that we should be supporting when we are looking for charities to sponsor.

The first few lines of a book I have the author gives an appreciation to Richard Grantham. He describes how in the 1970's he gave a lecture and described how he had used a computer analysis of the genetic sequences present in a virus capable of causing cancer to identify a gene that had its origins in the virus's host, not in the ancestors of the virus.

Point is anyway there's a multitude of causes of cancer.
I've lost some people close to me lately from it and received more bad news from someone else in the family tonight.

Base price · 12-08-2020 12:15am

It's pink eye time of the year with so many flies about so keep an eye (excuse the pun) on your stock.

I noticed that blue/grey bloom and runny eye on a couple of this years calves when herding on Sunday. Brought them in this evening and had to inject six of them.

Hard Knocks · 12-08-2020 7:06am

Reggie. wrote: »

Has to be in the genes

Is it the genes or the house?

Danzy · 12-08-2020 7:21am

I have had a Bord Bia audit and have to close out a few issues, audit was before expiration period of last one.

Am I still in the scheme during this period.

The original date has just passed.

wrangler · 12-08-2020 7:24am

Danzy wrote: »

I have had a Bord Bia audit and have to close out a few issues, audit was before expiration period of last one.

Am I still in the scheme during this period.

The original date has just passed.

You can check your status here.

https://qas.bordbia.ie/Beef/Verify/

I says · 12-08-2020 8:51am

Danzy wrote: »

I have had a Bord Bia audit and have to close out a few issues, audit was before expiration period of last one.

Am I still in the scheme during this period.

The original date has just passed.

I sent out the online stuff last week waiting to hear from the now.

whelan2 · 12-08-2020 8:53am

Aren't they back inspecting on farm now?

orm0nd · 12-08-2020 9:01am

whelan2 wrote: »

Aren't they back inspecting on farm now?

yes lasts for 18 months if on farm

12 months if you opt for online option

ganmo · 12-08-2020 9:32am

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Is it the genes or the house?

Only if theres no radon barrier in the house

emaherx · 12-08-2020 9:46am

ganmo wrote: »

Only if theres no radon barrier in the house

Could be enviromental, dieatry, in the Genes or any combination, or just terrible luck. I think we will all get some form of cancer if we live long enough.

whelan2 · 12-08-2020 10:29am

I think in this case it's in the genes. The mother's brother died of cancer 40 years ago. Just unlucky they have it on both sides. None of them ever smoked. Girl that died yesterday never drank either. The brother wont be home from hospital for the funeral.

lakill Farm · 12-08-2020 10:36am

whelan2 wrote: »

I think in this case it's in the genes. The mother's brother died of cancer 40 years ago. Just unlucky they have it on both sides. None of them ever smoked. Girl that died yesterday never drank either. The brother wont be home from hospital for the funeral.

Lost my Mam a few years ago at 53 of ovarian cancer. She had it for over 6 years and were lucky we got that time. 4 of 7 of her family dead now. 3 cancer , 1 Road accident . last 3 all getting bloods checked ever 3 months now I heard

emaherx · 12-08-2020 10:36am

whelan2 wrote: »

I think in this case it's in the genes. The mother's brother died of cancer 40 years ago. Just unlucky they have it on both sides. None of them ever smoked. Girl that died yesterday never drank either. The brother wont be home from hospital for the funeral.

Whatever the cause life is just tougher for some.

minerleague · 12-08-2020 10:52am

whelan2 wrote: »

Aren't they back inspecting on farm now?

had bord bia inspection over the phone recently, auditor said on farm inspections in a couple of months

Danzy · 12-08-2020 11:01am

wrangler wrote: »

You can check your status here.

https://qas.bordbia.ie/Beef/Verify/

Thanks for that Wrangler.

orm0nd · 12-08-2020 12:22pm

o/h and myself spent a few days in donegal and N.I.

we were supposed to be attending a wedding in london in sept. and another in vermont in Nov. both of which won't be happening (for us at least)

really enjoyed the break but always conscius of mixing and your surroundings takes a little from free style holiday

kollegeknight · 12-08-2020 1:16pm

OH off to work for evening today, amazing what you can get done with a clear run of the day.Dosing and dividing cattle. The bull is taken from cows now. Will scan in 6 weeks. Anything not in calf will go on Nov 1st.
Depending on what’s in calf or not wil decide will I get replacements. Currently have 9 cows hopeful. I always said I wouldn’t go under 10 cows. I have to rear my own replacements as we have red water in the bog area. Either that or keep the new cow around the house.

Might even get to cut a bit of the lawn. Won’t get it all done.

Siamsa Sessions · 12-08-2020 2:11pm

kollegeknight wrote: »

OH off to work for evening today, amazing what you can get done with a clear run of the day.Dosing and dividing cattle. The bull is taken from cows now. Will scan in 6 weeks. Anything not in calf will go on Nov 1st.
Depending on what’s in calf or not wil decide will I get replacements. Currently have 9 cows hopeful. I always said I wouldn’t go under 10 cows. I have to rear my own replacements as we have red water in the bog area. Either that or keep the new cow around the house.

Might even get to cut a bit of the lawn. Won’t get it all done.

The blue sky with the sun shining makes some difference too. Everything seems possible then.

Hard Knocks · 12-08-2020 2:32pm

orm0nd wrote: »

o/h and myself spent a few days in donegal and N.I.

we were supposed to be attending a wedding in london in sept. and another in vermont in Nov. both of which won't be happening (for us at least)

really enjoyed the break but always conscius of mixing and your surroundings takes a little from free style holiday

It’s lovely up there
Ireland is a fantastic country , sadly you can only appreciate when it’s not raining

minerleague · 12-08-2020 2:41pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Just reading about mob grazing - is it a fad or is there something in it?
Our land is all split into fields with drinkers - but split across a few locations. It is not something that I think would work with us - grazing a field for 24hrs and then letting it lie for 6 months - even if we did split the fields down with a fencer.
Rotational seems a better fit. Normally the cattle would eat down the grass before moving on, but after reclaiming some ground I'm wondering should we do something 'a bit more modern'. Although the boss probably would go mad at moving the cattle on from a field with grazing left in it!

Anyone else doing any form of mob/rotational grazing? Would be good to hear some opinions on how it works here.

US youtube channel JUST A FEW ACRES FARM goes through why it didnt work for him, video called "No nonsense Grazing"

kollegeknight · 12-08-2020 2:52pm

orm0nd wrote: »

o/h and myself spent a few days in donegal and N.I.

we were supposed to be attending a wedding in london in sept. and another in vermont in Nov. both of which won't be happening (for us at least)

really enjoyed the break but always conscius of mixing and your surroundings takes a little from free style holiday

I love the Ulster folk museum. Only glimpses at the transport part because we spend so long in the folk park.

Working black smith. Workers in costume. A few nice Irish moiled too.

funkey_monkey · 12-08-2020 3:48pm

minerleague wrote: »

US youtube channel JUST A FEW ACRES FARM goes through why it didnt work for him, video called "No nonsense Grazing"

The urge to go intensive with fertiliser and get some extra silage bales to use or sell is too great.

Danzy · 12-08-2020 3:51pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

The urge to go intensive with fertiliser and get some extra silage bales to use or sell is too great.

The price of fertiliser is massive, the price of cattle is not.

Water John · 13-08-2020 12:08am

TMK Bord Bia are back doing on farm visits.

wrangler · 13-08-2020 7:07am

Danzy wrote: »

The price of fertiliser is massive, the price of cattle is not.

It doesn't need much to keep fertility up once you get it built up.
There's no comparison with the production from index 3 and 4 and index 1 and 2 in both animal thrive and production ......... provided of course you don't be selling silage off it

_Brian · 13-08-2020 8:49am

kollegeknight wrote: »

I love the Ulster folk museum. Only glimpses at the transport part because we spend so long in the folk park.

Working black smith. Workers in costume. A few nice Irish moiled too.

Have been a few times
Transport section is great too.

We were there one damp afternoon and it was quiet. The blacksmith talked to us for ages and then brought the girls into the forge to blow the bellows and hammer the poker he was working on.
Sometimes you’ll get fresh bread in the Vickars house. Soda
Bread straight off the open fire.

Last visit they were dropping potatoes with a variety of vintage equipment, the Ferguson planter with the bell brought me right back. For my girls to be able to walk up into the field along side
It and see the lads dropping the seed was great. No YouTube video gives that experience. They were amazed that I’d done that as a child. Probably amazed I’m that old !!

Siamsa Sessions · 13-08-2020 9:24am

Water John wrote: »

TMK Bord Bia are back doing on farm visits.

I phoned the helpdesk yesterday and was told it’s up to individual inspectors to decide whether they’ll do on-farm or virtual visits. The lady I spoke to gave me my inspector’s name/number and said to contact him directly to find out

davidk1394 · 13-08-2020 2:08pm

Just wondering could anyone help me out. I have an issue with warts on heifers and is there anything to cure them ? They are getting spot on every few weeks and I tried a spray on the teats with no effect. I know warts are self limiting but I'd like to try get rid of them if possible.

Limestone Cowboy · 13-08-2020 2:11pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

Just wondering could anyone help me out. I have an issue with warts on heifers and is there anything to cure them ? They are getting spot on every few weeks and I tried a spray on the teats with no effect. I know warts are self limiting but I'd like to try get rid of them if possible.

Bactakill 55 might be worth a go.

lakill Farm · 13-08-2020 3:19pm

amazing rescue of the two ladies in Galway Bay this afternoon

15 hours in the water including all night is some story

a teenager in navan also rescued 2 kids yesterday in the Boyne river.

4 lives saved

13-08-2020 3:43pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

amazing rescue of the two ladies in Galway Bay this afternoon

15 hours in the water including all night is some story

a teenager in navan also rescued 2 kids yesterday in the Boyne river.

4 lives saved

Add to that it was a particularly bad night, they were lucky.

Base price · 13-08-2020 4:25pm

lakill Farm wrote: »

amazing rescue of the two ladies in Galway Bay this afternoon

15 hours in the water including all night is some story

a teenager in navan also rescued 2 kids yesterday in the Boyne river.

4 lives saved

Shows how important it is to bring your children to swimming lessons.
The two ladies were very lucky and it will be interesting to hear their story.

The young lad in Navan did well. I was listening to him on the radio this morning and he said he put the lad onto his shoulders and swam him to the bank but it was covered in reeds.

50HX · 13-08-2020 5:09pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

Just wondering could anyone help me out. I have an issue with warts on heifers and is there anything to cure them ? They are getting spot on every few weeks and I tried a spray on the teats with no effect. I know warts are self limiting but I'd like to try get rid of them if possible.

Seaweed meal is good for it

If your not plannin on selling they will run it courses......just ugly to look at

Castlekeeper · 13-08-2020 6:05pm

davidk1394 wrote: »

Just wondering could anyone help me out. I have an issue with warts on heifers and is there anything to cure them ? They are getting spot on every few weeks and I tried a spray on the teats with no effect. I know warts are self limiting but I'd like to try get rid of them if possible.

I've had success with mixing some bread soda with castor oil and rubbing it on after milking. It seems to dry out the wart and they blacken and scab off after a week or so. Big ones take longer but at least I see progress and it keep's me busy!

whelan2 · 13-08-2020 8:39pm

Had a lad here fixing a puncture, hes off cigarettes this last 2 weeks, putting €41 a day into a jar that ge would have been buying cigarettes with ! He was on 60 a day :eek:

Mossie1975 · 13-08-2020 8:48pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a lad here fixing a puncture, hes off cigarettes this last 2 weeks, putting €41 a day into a jar that ge would have been buying cigarettes with ! He was on 60 a day :eek:

Fair play to him. Not easy

Grueller · 13-08-2020 9:19pm

Mossie1975 wrote: »

Fair play to him. Not easy

The €574 would help ease the pain.

148multi · 13-08-2020 10:04pm

Castlekeeper wrote: »

I've had success with mixing some bread soda with castor oil and rubbing it on after milking. It seems to dry out the wart and they blacken and scab off after a week or so. Big ones take longer but at least I see progress and it keep's me busy!

Used castor oil on its own and stick a finger of a glove on the tit, think it's about smothering the wart of air.

ganmo · 13-08-2020 10:50pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a lad here fixing a puncture, hes off cigarettes this last 2 weeks, putting €41 a day into a jar that ge would have been buying cigarettes with ! He was on 60 a day :eek:

15K a year!!! why anyone picks up smoking i dont know

patsy_mccabe · 13-08-2020 11:17pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Had a lad here fixing a puncture, hes off cigarettes this last 2 weeks, putting €41 a day into a jar that ge would have been buying cigarettes with ! He was on 60 a day :eek:

He must be fair ratty. :eek:

charolais0153 · 13-08-2020 11:22pm

ganmo wrote: »

15K a year!!! why anyone picks up smoking i dont know

Peer pressure I suppose and then adduction kicks in

Dinzee Conlee · 13-08-2020 11:32pm

ganmo wrote: »

15K a year!!! why anyone picks up smoking i dont know

I suppose why does anyone do anything...

Often it’s only when you pull the plug you can see the money side of it...

As for the health aide - no one thinks they’ll get cancer, or killed in a car accident, or killed by a bull...

So we all carry on doing what we do...

Wildsurfer · 14-08-2020 12:01am

Dinzee Conlee wrote: »

I suppose why does anyone do anything...

Often it’s only when you pull the plug you can see the money side of it...

As for the health aide - no one thinks they’ll get cancer, or killed in a car accident, or killed by a bull...

So we all carry on doing what we do...

I think most people would have more sympathy for someone who dies in a farm accident or car crash than a heavy smoker who gets lung cancer though don't you think? Was at maternity hospital lately and always a few women outside smoking, you'd nearly feel like telling them to cop themselves on.

CloughCasey1 · 14-08-2020 12:58am

Wildsurfer wrote: »

I think most people would have more sympathy for someone who dies in a farm accident or car crash than a heavy smoker who gets lung cancer though don't you think? Was at maternity hospital lately and always a few women outside smoking, you'd nearly feel like telling them to cop themselves on.

Would most of the older smokers have been brought up in a society that advertised smoking as freely and as easy as bars of chocolate. I don't smoke. Never have never will. Think twice before you type. We've all been touched by cancer one way or the other.

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