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Tralee to Fenit Greenway

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    kingdumb wrote: »
    That's great news, when do expect clearance work to start on the Bracker o'Reagan to Fenit and Rock Street to the Train Station sections to begin ?

    I just had a look at that latter part of the track and I now have to say that I do no longer think this will ever happen. The short path between Edward Street and the Big River (behind An Sean Mhuíleann) shouldn't cause any problems, but at least at the moment it doesn't seem to be a realistic possibility to follow the old line from there any further towards the Rock Street crossing.
    I see two reasons for that: there is no longer any bridge over the Big River other than the one used by Dunnes as a storage area. This one doesn't seem to have been part of the old track and it is now separated by a high wall from the area where the track should have been. So a new bridge would have to be built. Certainly possible, but not ideal:
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    The second bigger problem is that the old track has actually been built on right behind the wall from the Dunnes car park. There is now at least one building and possibly a number of sheds directly on the tracks that can easily be seen from Rock street. I think the first one here belongs to the play school next to the Dunnes back entrance, more may be behind some of the houses on the south side of Casement Avenue. Interestingly they are not visible on the current Google maps imagery, so they must be rather new. I tried to snap a picture with my phone over the wall:
    194394.jpg

    Some residents of Casement Avenue have incorporated the track into their back gardens and erected walls on the track between their properties, also quite recently as can be seen on Google Streetview:
    http://maps.google.ie/?ll=52.273438,-9.704167&spn=0.00071,0.002064&t=h&layer=c&cbll=52.273487,-9.704247&panoid=9pPjwW2TUH9TXqMP5viIOg&cbp=12,6.8,,1,0.88&z=20

    Although I would very much like the track to go straight through to the train station I can't see the council confronting those landowners. Infact, they seem to have already built a way around that "problem". I just spotted a new footpath along the big river (not the one on the CBS-side!) which goes around the small green area a the end of Casement Avenue, then follows the Big River up to the existing pedestrian bridge and then again turns right onto the path on the other side of the river they built two or three years ago. From there the path can easily break through onto the last stretch of old track towards the train station. So it seems they want to use Casement Avenue between Rock Street and the Big River instead of the original rail track. More pictures of the new path:
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    194401.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    One more:
    194408.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Thanks for all the photos Quaderno,

    That is all very curious re the Edward Street - Rock Street section. I didn't realise that the bridge was remove/never reinstated here.

    It would suggest that the council do intend link [or at least doing something] with this part of the line, why else would the extend two path to it. Also why path on both side of the river, surly one would suffice [the path on the East side of the river was built a few year back] so why the new one ?

    The first thing that popped into my mind was that this might be to get around the bridge issue by making a path use the existing bridge
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    I hope you are not right about the use of Casement avenue, this would require users to cycle on an busy road, which kinda defeats the purpose.


    Actually from looking at the aerial shots I suspect the beams in the center of this image could be part of the bridge ?
    http://g.co/maps/snqxm

    Maybe user 'Kerry County Council' would care to comment ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,543 ✭✭✭JerryHandbag


    Where does the great southern trail extent to now? Abbeyfeale?.

    Yeah ends in Abbeyfeale. Would be great to see it all linked up someday, but not sure about what state the old line is from there to Listowel.

    Actually just following the line there on Google maps, what route does the line take through Listowel does anyone know? I know theres a monorail section reopened there. Its hard to follow it through Listowel as it seems to be covered in clouds on Google maps :)

    Seems to roughly following John B Keane road, from what I can see


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    amadain wrote: »
    The stretch from the Spa back down to Mounthawk is next few weeks.

    Won't it be great to walk to Spa this summer !




    Are they building the walkway from mounthawk to spa in a few weeks time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    trail man wrote: »
    This is a fantastic development and has gigantic potential as a local/tourist amenity...no reason why in the long term it that it couldnt be linked with the rest of the north kerry line and eventually you could cycle/walk from fenit to limerick city via the great southern trail. ...ALL THE REST OF EUROPE HAVE DONE THIS WITH OLD RAILWAY LINES AND ARE MAKING A MINT FROM ECO TOURISM...

    I agree. I am a regular visitor to Kerry for holidays and cannot wait to be able to take a cycle along this route and away from traffic. Well done Kerry Co Co and to all the volunteers. I'm sure not everyone is happy with this but hopefully they will come to like it and benefit from it through the likes of tourism.

    I'll be watching this one with interest


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    The second bigger problem is that the old track has actually been built on right behind the wall from the Dunnes car park. There is now at least one building and possibly a number of sheds directly on the tracks that can easily be seen from Rock street. I think the first one here belongs to the play school next to the Dunnes back entrance, more may be behind some of the houses on the south side of Casement Avenue. Interestingly they are not visible on the current Google maps imagery, so they must be rather new. I tried to snap a picture with my phone over the wall:

    If they are relatively new then it's most probable they are trespassing and can be cleared relatively handy?
    Some residents of Casement Avenue have incorporated the track into their back gardens and erected walls on the track between their properties, also quite recently as can be seen on Google Streetview:
    http://maps.google.ie/?ll=52.273438,...8,,1,0.88&z=20

    I wonder have some people along the first few houses extended their gardens in the hope that no one was ever gonna come looking to open the rail line again? Really cheeky if thats the case and if I were Kerry Co Co I'd be asking a few questions about owenership. No way I'd be going aroudn the long way anyways, of course it could have been sold to them but it certainly looks that only a couple took up and option to extend their gardens - funny enough they are ones with large extensions in the back of the house !!
    Interestingly they are not visible on the current Google maps imagery, so they must be rather new.

    Not on Google Earth either - infact it shows that the wall at garden end runs parallel to the Dunnes Wall, yet in your pics it deffo shows they are attached to the Dunnes Wall !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    Short update. Tracks being lifted, but still on site:

    194907.jpg

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    Kinda sad the tracks are being lifted. Last link to an older time.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 60 ✭✭Kerry County Council


    kingdumb wrote: »
    Thanks for all the photos Quaderno,

    That is all very curious re the Edward Street - Rock Street section. I didn't realise that the bridge was remove/never reinstated here.

    It would suggest that the council do intend link [or at least doing something] with this part of the line, why else would the extend two path to it. Also why path on both side of the river, surly one would suffice [the path on the East side of the river was built a few year back] so why the new one ?

    The first thing that popped into my mind was that this might be to get around the bridge issue by making a path use the existing bridge
    _____ _______
    _____|__|
    _____|__|
    _____|__|
    _____==


    I hope you are not right about the use of Casement avenue, this would require users to cycle on an busy road, which kinda defeats the purpose.


    Actually from looking at the aerial shots I suspect the beams in the center of this image could be part of the bridge ?
    http://g.co/maps/snqxm

    Maybe user 'Kerry County Council' would care to comment ?



    Sorry about the delay in getting back to you all.

    At this moment there are no plans by Tralee Town Council to extend the walkway down by the Big River.

    In relation to the Tralee-Fenit walkway, it was always envisaged that it would run from Rock Street out. At some stage later on we may look at the stretch between Rock Street and the Oakpark Road, but for the moment we're concentrating our energies from Rock Street out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Thanks for getting back to my question.
    At this moment there are no plans by Tralee Town Council to extend the walkway down by the Big River.

    No plans ? This section of the line is outlined in the active town development plan to be developed as a cycleway !

    Also as pointed out previously in this tread, Tralee TC have recently constructed another path on the west bank of the river, this means that there is now a path on both sides of the river which both lead to dead ends at the old railway line. From this one would have to presume that the intention was to join these path to the railway at the other side of the wall, as indicated in the town development plan.

    If this was not the case why on earth would Tralee TC waste public funds constructing paths that lead no-where ?

    In relation to the Tralee-Fenit walkway, it was always envisaged that it would run from Rock Street out. At some stage later on we may look at the stretch between Rock Street and the Oakpark Road, but for the moment we're concentrating our energies from Rock Street out.


    always envisaged
    by whom ?

    As I have stated before it is clear in the town development plan that section of line to be developed is the section of line from Edward Street to Mounthawk. Any time that the redevelopment of the line is mentioned it is the Tralee to Fenit Railway, not the section of the Tralee to Fenit railway from Rock St. to Fenit.

    If it is the intention to develop this section why leave it till a later stage ? this would require 2 separate planning applications.

    Althought this section of the line is short, it would be an important piece of infrastructure in the town. It would allow pedestrian/cycle access to CBS school and to the town's main transport hub, and provide a link between, Edward St., Ashe St, Rock St., Casements Ave. and Brewery Road.

    The town development plan also highlights the poor pedestrian linkages between the town and the train/bus stations, the development of this section would go a good way to addressing this.

    I look forward to your reply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    clearing work stopped on friday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    kingdumb wrote: »
    This section of the line is outlined in the active town development plan to be developed as a cycleway !
    Exactly, and it has been there for good reason. I am also very interested to hear why on earth that should change. Maybe some unexpected problems with the owners of residential properties in Casement Ave.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Hopeful Kerry Co Co will respond back here soon with the reasons.

    I can't imagine there being any issues, the council have licence from the landowners [CIE/IR] to use the lands.
    Quaderno wrote: »
    Exactly, and it has been there for good reason. I am also very interested to hear why on earth that should change. Maybe some unexpected problems with the owners of residential properties in Casement Ave.?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    what happenes now with the walkway now the the clearing work has been completed


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    I was told that the guys clearing the pathway got paid with the rails.
    Any truth in that I wonder.
    All those rails would be worth a tidy sum of shillings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    The council applies for part 8 planning for the route. As far as I know the council a due to submit this within the next couple of weeks, after that there is a 6 week consultation period. Hopefully all going well work will be able to start on the line during the summer.
    what happenes now with the walkway now the the clearing work has been completed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    I heard that too, you would think that CIE would be after them, yet another case of that organisation not protecting public assets I guess.

    Any idea of what they would be worth carchaeologist ?
    I was told that the guys clearing the pathway got paid with the rails.
    Any truth in that I wonder.
    All those rails would be worth a tidy sum of shillings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    kingdumb wrote: »
    The council applies for part 8 planning for the route. As far as I know the council a due to submit this within the next couple of weeks, after that there is a 6 week consultation period. Hopefully all going well work will be able to start on the line during the summer.



    We have a long wait so ahead of us before work gets underway. how long will work take to complete once it gets underway?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    kingdumb wrote: »
    I heard that too, you would think that CIE would be after them, yet another case of that organisation not protecting public assets I guess.

    Any idea of what they would be worth carchaeologist ?

    Well, let's see.
    With a little help from the distance tool provided by Google labs we can find out that the cleared stretch of track is pretty exactly 1.8km long (+- <10m). If we assume a single track with two rails that will make 3.6km of single rail.
    Using Wikipedia we can further establish that european steel rails weigh between 40kg and 60kg per m, which would bring us to an overall amount of between 144 and 216 tonnes of steel.
    Next I found a site called "scrap price index" which is being published by the European Steel Association. For "demolition scrap" they give a value of €319 per ton for February 2012, so this is quite up to date. I don't know how rails compare to demolition scrap in general, but I would expect it to be rather good and lasting steel at the upper end of the value bracket. So I assume for our estimation we can safely use the "demolition scrap" value without being too far off to the low side.
    Now, using the lowest calculation for the overall weight we would arrive at 144 tonnes x €319 or just under €46,000. Using the higher estimates we would be looking at 216 tonnes x €319 or just under €69,000. I would think that we should expect a number somewhere in between those two values and quite certainly over €50,000, even for low grade steel.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,318 ✭✭✭✭carchaeologist


    ^What he said!! Lol!
    kingdumb wrote: »
    Any idea of what they would be worth carchaeologist ?

    I would say that would be about right, good weight in those rails.
    I would have bought a digger and dug them out myself if I had known that!:cool:
    Still though, €50k is a bit strong for what is basically just a clearance job, I wonder is all the money paying for the pathway laying too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭lottpaul


    Wasn't it a double track from Tralee to where the Fenit branch split off from the North Kerry line? (just beyond where the present clearance has finished) If so, then the amount of scrap rails - and value - would be doubled!

    Or was the second track lifted when the N Kerry line was abandoned? Interesting to find out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭trail man


    The second track limerick/kerry line was lifted in 89 and way back then and considered virtually worthless in scrap value...HAVENT THINGS CHANGED.:cool:.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    lottpaul wrote: »
    Wasn't it a double track from Tralee to where the Fenit branch split off from the North Kerry line? (just beyond where the present clearance has finished) If so, then the amount of scrap rails - and value - would be doubled!

    Or was the second track lifted when the N Kerry line was abandoned? Interesting to find out.



    Lottopaul I think the 2nd track was lifted when the north kerry line was abandoned.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭manoverboards


    Apparently this was the same guy who was blocking the line only a few months ago !

    Good to see this some things haven't changed in this country.

    If those tracks were really worth that much, that's not too bad for 5/6 days work eh.

    I was told that the guys clearing the pathway got paid with the rails.
    Any truth in that I wonder.
    All those rails would be worth a tidy sum of shillings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Jaysus, that's without the base plates and screws too, they would probably add up to 8 or so tonnes.

    Any idea what happened to the sleepers ?
    Quaderno wrote: »
    Well, let's see.
    With a little help from the distance tool provided by Google labs we can find out that the cleared stretch of track is pretty exactly 1.8km long (+- <10m). If we assume a single track with two rails that will make 3.6km of single rail.
    Using Wikipedia we can further establish that european steel rails weigh between 40kg and 60kg per m, which would bring us to an overall amount of between 144 and 216 tonnes of steel.
    Next I found a site called "scrap price index" which is being published by the European Steel Association. For "demolition scrap" they give a value of €319 per ton for February 2012, so this is quite up to date. I don't know how rails compare to demolition scrap in general, but I would expect it to be rather good and lasting steel at the upper end of the value bracket. So I assume for our estimation we can safely use the "demolition scrap" value without being too far off to the low side.
    Now, using the lowest calculation for the overall weight we would arrive at 144 tonnes x €319 or just under €46,000. Using the higher estimates we would be looking at 216 tonnes x €319 or just under €69,000. I would think that we should expect a number somewhere in between those two values and quite certainly over €50,000, even for low grade steel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    I heard that too !
    Apparently this was the same guy who was blocking the line only a few months ago !

    Good to see this some things haven't changed in this country.

    If those tracks were really worth that much, that's not too bad for 5/6 days work eh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    Has the planning applaction been sutmitted yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Seems there is another walk on the line tomorrow:

    http://traleetofenitcycleway.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/walk-the-line-3/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    The walk was great today and lets try to force the council to get the planning applaction throuhg quciker and get the rest of the line to fenit cleared so we can walk it


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  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Clearing the rest of the line is going to be a bit more difficult, considering that one reprehensible individual just outside Mounthawk has built a concrete yard for parking his trucks across the line.

    See on google maps here: http://maps.google.ie/maps?hl=en&ll=52.289161,-9.730952&spn=0.001409,0.004128&t=h&z=19

    And further down the line at Spa, another has extended their front drive and garden over the line: http://maps.google.ie/maps?hl=en&ll=52.280983,-9.801862&spn=0.00141,0.004128&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.280963,-9.801619&panoid=afx0WcVfqo5mzeiOubdKsg&cbp=12,252.66,,0,7.89

    Fortunately what these chancers don't seem to realise is that the Tralee/Fenit line, having been established by an act of the Westminster Parliament which has never been repealed, makes it immune to squatters' rights and no length of squatting is going to change that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    Quackster wrote: »
    Clearing the rest of the line is going to be a bit more difficult, considering that one reprehensible individual just outside Mounthawk has built a concrete yard for parking his trucks across the line.

    See on google maps here: http://maps.google.ie/maps?hl=en&ll=52.289161,-9.730952&spn=0.001409,0.004128&t=h&z=19

    And further down the line at Spa, another has extended their front drive and garden over the line: http://maps.google.ie/maps?hl=en&ll=52.280983,-9.801862&spn=0.00141,0.004128&t=h&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.280963,-9.801619&panoid=afx0WcVfqo5mzeiOubdKsg&cbp=12,252.66,,0,7.89

    Fortunately what these chancers don't seem to realise is that the Tralee/Fenit line, having been established by an act of the Westminster Parliament which has never been repealed, makes it immune to squatters' rights and no length of squatting is going to change that!



    Ya i see your point there. That will make it hard for them to build the walk all the way out to fenit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Would be good to know how the council are progressing on the Mounthawlk to Fenit section of the line, maybe Kerry County Council could comment ?


  • Site Banned Posts: 60 ✭✭Kerry County Council


    kingdumb wrote: »
    Would be good to know how the council are progressing on the Mounthawlk to Fenit section of the line, maybe Kerry County Council could comment ?


    Currently we are finalising a few details and would expect to lodge the Part 8 (planning application) for the Rock Street to Mounthawk Section within the fortnight.

    We are continuing discussions with residents and other parties in relation to the Mounthawk-Fenit section.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Thanks for the update, good to hear the project is still moving along. When would you expect the part 8 to be lodged for the Mounthawk-Fenit section ?
    Currently we are finalising a few details and would expect to lodge the Part 8 (planning application) for the Rock Street to Mounthawk Section within the fortnight.

    We are continuing discussions with residents and other parties in relation to the Mounthawk-Fenit section.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Continuing discussions??

    Please tell us you will be taking more aggressive actions to deal with these deviants who are illegally blocking the line because local people are getting rather peeved off with the utter lack of progress at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭trail man


    These things take time...maybe lots of time..progress can be slow...getting things done behind the scene is equally important..the southerntrail took years to move on in some cases...usually the big farmers and well to do property owners were the worst offenders with regard to putting obstacles in the way of what in the longterm would be of great benefit to the community ..which ultimately included themselves and their familys..........STICK WITH IT.anything worth having dosent come easy..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    There is a conference in the ITT tomorrow on cycling tourism in Kerry, there will be speakers from both the Western Greenway (Mayo) and the Southern Trail (Limerick and hopefully Kerry soon) should be of interest

    Details here:

    http://kerrybicyclefestival.org/bspoke-developing-cycle-tourism-in-kerry/550/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    The part VIII planning application was submitted to Tralee Town Council for the Tralee urban part of the route.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    Did you hear the one about the new Kerry cycle path ?

    It is expected to increase the demand for parking spaces !

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    * From the minutes of April’s meeting of Tralee Town Council.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    kingdumb wrote: »
    The part VIII planning application was submitted to Tralee Town Council for the Tralee urban part of the route.

    And they haven't been idle in the meantime. Pipe-laying on the track is now almost finished:

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 320 ✭✭stevielenihan


    when will constrction begin on the Rock Street to Mounhawk section of the line?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    Only in Ireland could a greenway be constructed on a railway line that has never been officially closed. :rolleyes:


  • Site Banned Posts: 60 ✭✭Kerry County Council


    The public consultation period for the Rock Street-Mounthawk section of the Tralee to Fenit Amenity Trail is now open. Maps/details are on display at the Tralee Town Council offices until June 28th, and are also available on the link below.

    http://www.traleetc.ie/news/title,7188,en.html

    Members of the public may make observations/submissions until 5pm, July 12th.

    All such observations/submissions may be made in writing to 'Town Clerk, Tralee Town Council, Princes Quay, Tralee, and must be made before 5pm on July 12th 2012.


  • Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 5,842 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quackster


    Only in Ireland could a greenway be constructed on a railway line that has never been officially closed. :rolleyes:

    It's the fact that it hasn't been abondoned that protects the line from squatters. Well legally speaking anyway if not in practice. :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭kingdumb


    When will the planning documents be going online ?
    All that is up there is the maps and newspaper ad/notice, none of the planning documents/reports are up.
    The public consultation period for the Rock Street-Mounthawk section of the Tralee to Fenit Amenity Trail is now open. Maps/details are on display at the Tralee Town Council offices until June 28th, and are also available on the link below.

    http://www.traleetc.ie/news/title,7188,en.html

    Members of the public may make observations/submissions until 5pm, July 12th.

    All such observations/submissions may be made in writing to 'Town Clerk, Tralee Town Council, Princes Quay, Tralee, and must be made before 5pm on July 12th 2012.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 815 ✭✭✭Quaderno


    Just spotted on radiokerry.ie/news:
    15 Jun 2012
    Limerick rail-trail to be extended to Kerry border

    Efforts to extend the Great Southern Trail from Limerick to Kerry have received a boost.
    €290,000 is to be spent on the extension by Limerick County Council
    The disused railway is being gradually redeveloped as a recreational walking and cycling track.
    Group walks are regularly held along the 22-mile stretch from Rathkeale to Abbeyfeale.
    The new fund will see the track extended to the Kerry border at Barnagh.
    The Great Southern Trail committee has welcomed the new grant and expressed its hope that Kerry County Council would develop the trail in Kerry.
    The disused line runs through Kilmorna, Listowel, Lixnaw, Abbeydorney, Ardfert and Traleee.
    It links up with the Tralee-Fenit line which is being developed as a greenway walk.

    Great news!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7 pooka on wheels


    i'v been following the discussion on the Tralee- Limerick line for a while. Several times it has been referred to as an abandoned line. To my knowlege for a rail line to be abandoned CIE has to advertise in the local papers that they are abandoning the route. When this happens adjoining land owners are entilted to take over the land.

    In the case of the Limerick - Tralee line far from abandoning the line CIE a number of years ago laid a fibre optic cable along the old line which as far as I know is still active


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭trail man


    actually the line has been abandoned..and it came very close to going back to the landowners..too close for comfort..it came down to meeting between limerick county council/landowners/iarnoid eireann and the great southern trail ...to sign off the property..intense pressure from irish farming organisations created this..anyway the decision was put on hold for a few months...and low and behold a gentleman called Denis o brien came on the scene with a proposal to put a fibre optic cable under the bed of the line from limerick to tralee...this happened some weeks after the big meeting with all the stakeholders of the line...iarnoad eireann got compensation for the cable and as the saying goes money talks...following that a preservation order now is on the line....IT CAME OH SO CLOSE TO BEING LOST...


  • Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭trail man


    TO SIMPLIFY THIS PREVIOUS COMMENT...
    THE LINE HAS INDEED BEEN ABANDONED.
    THE RAILWAY FORMATION IS STILL OWNED BY IARNOAD EIREANN..
    A PRESERVATION ORDER NOW EXISTS FOR THE RAILWAY FORMATION.
    THE PROPERTY BETWEEN BOTH DITCHES OF THE ONCE RAILWAY...:D..


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