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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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    #392
    Erik Shun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Ronan O Mahony forced to retire. Poor guy

    It was coming unfortunately, never recovered from his leg break...a good solid dirt tracker who didn't get the luck he deserved.


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    #393
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,645 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Erik Shun wrote: »
    It was coming unfortunately, never recovered from his leg break...a good solid dirt tracker who didn't get the luck he deserved.

    Never really got the term dirt tracker, what's wrong with squad player? Maybe im reading a meaning that's not there but always seemed a small bit patronising.


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    #394
    Erik Shun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Never really got the term dirt tracker, what's wrong with squad player? Maybe im reading a meaning that's not there but always seemed a small bit patronising.

    It's a common enough term and nobody means anything nasty or derogative by it


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    #395
    thomond2006
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    Ah that's terrible news. I thought ROM would get another contract elsewhere.

    That leaves Munster with six senior back three players signed up for next season. Liam Coombes has featured in the Pro14 this season so he will hopefully step up but perhaps Munster might go into the market.


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    #396
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Kevin O'Byrne 2020
    Rhys Marshall 2021
    Niall Scannell 2021

    Diarmuid Barron Year 1
    Eoghan Clarke Year 1

    James Cronin 2021
    Dave Kilcoyne 2020
    Liam O'Connor 2020
    Jeremy Loughman 2020

    James French Year 1
    Josh Wycherley Year 1

    Stephen Archer 2020
    John Ryan 2022
    Brian Scott 2020
    Ciaran Parker 2020

    Keynan Knox Year 3 & 2022

    Tadhg Beirne 2020
    Billy Holland 2020
    Jean Kleyn 2022
    Sean O'Connor 2020
    Darren O'Shea 2020
    Fineen Wycherley 2021

    Thomas Ahern Year 1

    Arno Botha 2020
    Gavin Coombes 2021
    Chris Cloete 2022
    Dave O'Callaghan 2019
    Tommy O'Donnell 2021
    Jack O'Donoghue 2021
    Peter O'Mahony 2021
    Conor Oliver 2020
    CJ Stander 2021

    Jack Daly Year 1
    Jack O'Sullivan Year 2

    Neil Cronin 2021
    Nick McCarthy 2021
    James Hart 2019
    Alby Mathewson Nov 2019
    Conor Murray 2022
    Duncan Williams 2019

    Craig Casey Year 2
    Jack Stafford Year 2

    Tyler Bleyendaal 2021
    Joey Carbery 2022
    JJ Hanrahan 2021
    Bill Johnston 2020

    Ben Healy Year 1
    Alan Tynan Year 2

    Sam Arnold 2020
    Shane Daly 2021
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    Sean French Year 1
    Alex McHenry Year 2

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    Liam Coombes Year 2
    James McCarthy Year 2
    Jonathan Wren Year 1

    2019/20 Movements:
    IN: Nick McCarthy (SH, Leinster)
    OUT: Mike Sherry (HK, Gloucester/TBC), Ian Keatley (FH, Benetton), Matt More (CT, South Africa), Ronan O'Mahony (WG, Retired), Stephen Fitzgerald (FB, Connacht)

    2019/20 NIEs:
    Arno Botha (capped), Chris Cloete (uncapped), Alby Mathewson (capped)


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    #397
    leakyboots
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    Shame for ROM, still only 29. Might be forgotten but that 2016/2017 season he had 10 tries in 22 appearances before he broke his leg against Treviso. Would have played a major part in the latter end of that season otherwise, he was on fire, not to be sadly

    Just shows how finely balanced their careers are, one injury away from it being all over

    Edit: His overall strike rate is great, 21 in 70 apps


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    #398
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,645 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Glasgow fan has put together all the permutations for the last 2 matches for anyone interested in that sorta thing

    https://twitter.com/topofthemoonGW/status/1116058229191127040


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    #399
    Brief_Lives
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    Thats very good....


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    #400
    Erik Shun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Brief_Lives wrote: »
    Thats very good....

    Feels like I'm playing minesweeper!


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    #401
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    Saracens are a good team playing at home. Munster will need to be at their absolute best to beat them and the further away from that they are the greater the risk of a bit of a humbling.

    Similarly this weekend - Treviso will be full strength and gunning for a win. They never gave up in the RDS and with the squad heading over and Munster's away form / attitude there is a risk of a poor result.

    The timing of the VanGraan announcement could end up being more negative from an optics perspective if the next two weeks go badly. The biggest question marks I have over the Munster setup currently revolve around the coaching ticket, I think the squad is good enough to win in Europe.

    Big two weeks of rugby coming up, two wins and it's new territory for most of this group of players and a replication of Leinster's 2018 season is well and truly on the cards.


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    #402
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Small point, but Saracens aren't playing at home. We're still unlikely to beat them though because as well as them probably being better coached, they also have a better squad than Munster


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    #403
    leakyboots
    Registered Users Posts: 5,913 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    Munster's away form/attitude? We lost a couple at the start of the season but it's been fine since then no?

    Draw with Exeter, beat Gloucester, Cheetahs, Zebre, Connacht, Dragons, Ospreys, Edinburgh

    Lost to Castres by a point, Ulster by 7 and Scarlets by 4 - we were in with a good shout of winning those


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    #404
    Eod100
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    Funnily enough they are playing Wasps on weekend after us at Rioch too


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    #405
    brendanwalsh
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    O mahony played for the A team post his injury, did he ever play with the senior panel.

    Was it a case that he didn't get back to his previous level and his contract was up and he wouldn't have been offered another one?


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    #406
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    brendanwalsh wrote: »
    O mahony played for the A team post his injury, did he ever play with the senior panel.

    Was it a case that he didn't get back to his previous level and his contract was up and he wouldn't have been offered another one?


    He made one sub appearance last season and had there appearances off the bench this season, the last being against the Scarlets last month.


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    #407
    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,010 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    brendanwalsh wrote: »
    O mahony played for the A team post his injury, did he ever play with the senior panel.

    Was it a case that he didn't get back to his previous level and his contract was up and he wouldn't have been offered another one?

    Everything I've read from munster and the player says on medical advice, no reason to think otherwise.


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    #408
    Jump_In_Jack
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    He made one sub appearance last season and had there appearances off the bench this season, the last being against the Scarlets last month.

    He played the full match against Scarlets, he started at 14.
    I actually thought he looked zippy when he got a few balls, but unfortunately for him it seems that he was injured even though it didn't seem obvious to me.
    If he could have cleared up that injury he would have been kept on I reckon.


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    #409
    thomond2006
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    I'm not sure he was in line for an extension. The squad is full of young wingers.


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    #410
    Nikki Sixx
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Treviso are 1 points favourites apparently. Munster could still win their match and Glasgow win theirs vs Leinster and still be behind. Balance between resting players for Saracens match and having them match ready is a tricky one

    How are Treviso such strong favourites? In previous years Munster would have been favourites against them, even away from home.


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    #411
    aloooof
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    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    How are Treviso such strong favourites? In previous years Munster would have been favourites against them, even away from home.

    In previous years, Treviso were far poorer than they are now. It's pretty simple.


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    #412
    Nikki Sixx
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    aloooof wrote: »
    In previous years, Treviso were far poorer than they are now. It's pretty simple.

    And are they that good that they could beat Munster?


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    #413
    molloyjh
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    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    aloooof wrote: »
    In previous years, Treviso were far poorer than they are now. It's pretty simple.

    And are they that good that they could beat Munster?

    Yes, 100% they are. And should they win today, they'll probably take second in their conference ahead of Ulster, Edinburgh and Scarlets. They really pushed on last season and have been bloody good this. They've only lost at home twice all season; to Leinster and Ulster when shorn of their internationals.

    EDIT: They are also the last team to beat Leinster in the RDS.


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    #414
    Bazzo
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    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    And are they that good that they could beat Munster?

    Of course? They drew with both Leinster and Ulster away and have beaten teams like Scarlets and Glasgow this season.


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    #415
    aloooof
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    Nikki Sixx wrote: »
    And are they that good that they could beat Munster?

    I'd say justifiably favourites. They've already beaten Glasgow at home this season, who are ahead of Munster in the conference. They've a very decent home record this season.


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    #416
    Riskymove
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    Bazzo wrote: »
    Of course? They drew with both Leinster and Ulster away and have beaten teams like Scarlets and Glasgow this season.

    in fairness, not to belittle their improved performance this season, I don't think they have faced too many first XV teams

    likewise tonight it is far from Munster's first XV but it really features only 2 or 3 players who haven't featured regularly


    compare that to the Leinster team last week (who could have won)


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    #417
    LuckyGent88
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    Hopefully Saracens suspend Billy V for 2 weeks following his support for Falou.


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    #418
    Erik Shun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    LuckyGent88 wrote: »
    Hopefully Saracens suspend Billy V for 2 weeks following his support for Falou.

    Oooh...good call


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    #419
    giveitholly
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    LuckyGent88 wrote: »
    Hopefully Saracens suspend Billy V for 2 weeks following his support for Falou.

    Will prob suspend him after next saturday


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    #420
    Akrasia
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    Thread title. , `Medium force be with you`


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    #421
    mystic86
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    Disaster for Munster with Glasgow beating Leinster! No home semi for Munster. 3 home games now for Glasgow to win the league! Edinburgh and then probably Ulster and then probably Leinster.


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