General Star Trek thread

Dave0301 · 30-03-2012 2:39pm

EnterNow wrote: »

The box sets are really cheap. No ads is the ultimate win :cool:

No ads is awesome alright! Yeah, gonna look into getting the Voyager ones next I would think. Besides I love having something physical to show for it rather that just a load of media on a drive!

Myrddin · 30-03-2012 2:41pm

Dave0301 wrote: »

No ads is awesome alright! Yeah, gonna look into getting the Voyager ones next I would think. Besides I love having something physical to show for it rather that just a load of media on a drive!

Changing discs wore me out after a while, plus I have all the old Phat type boxes so they took up loads of space. Eventually I transferred them all to my HTPC in 1:1 quality, so all there at touch of a remote

Dave0301 · 30-03-2012 2:52pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Changing discs wore me out after a while, plus I have all the old Phat type boxes so they took up loads of space. Eventually I transferred them all to my HTPC in 1:1 quality, so all there at touch of a remote

Haha nice! Yeah I had a 1TB hard drive full of videos and TV shows that I managed to kick off my bed one night :mad:

Needless to say distressed was an understatement! Had physical copies of most of the stuff except TNG but a lesson was learnt!!

Goldstein · 30-03-2012 7:34pm

Dave0301 wrote: »

Just finished season 5 of DS9 last night. I remember seeing it when I was younger and the rush of excitement on seeing the Federation fleet!

Is it wrong that I probably got more enjoyment seeing it again now that i'm all grown up??

helimachoptor wrote: »

I'm the same when they start the battle to retake DS9 I just knew the Klingons would arrive and when they did I jumped around the sitting room.. I still get excited watching it now. The battles in DS9 were great

Still remember the feeling the first time I saw 2x Galaxy classes on the same screen. :eek:

The rehashed battle vfx shots were galling though in What You Leave Behind. Remember feeling so cheated.

Sisko: "Let's see what they have waiting for us"...

OMFG! MASSIVE FLEET OF DOMINION BADDIE CRAP!

A few scenes later jump ahead to Martok, Ross & Sisko on Cardassia Prime and skip the entire final battle = ROBBED. :mad:

Daith · 01-04-2012 4:25pm

Goldstein wrote: »

Still remember the feeling the first time I saw 2x Galaxy classes on the same screen. :eek:

The rehashed battle vfx shots were galling though in What You Leave Behind. Remember feeling so cheated.

Sisko: "Let's see what they have waiting for us"...

OMFG! MASSIVE FLEET OF DOMINION BADDIE CRAP!

A few scenes later jump ahead to Martok, Ross & Sisko on Cardassia Prime and skip the entire final battle = ROBBED. :mad:

Yeah they didn't have the money to do it justice. Pity.

G-Money · 06-04-2012 5:34pm

How do you guys convert your DVD's to media? I just have a laptop and it takes an eternity to rip stuff from DVD to some sort of digital format on the computer. I can also see myself getting annoyed having to burn so many discs and name episodes and the like.

downwithpeace · 06-04-2012 8:07pm

G-Money wrote: »

How do you guys convert your DVD's to media? I just have a laptop and it takes an eternity to rip stuff from DVD to some sort of digital format on the computer. I can also see myself getting annoyed having to burn so many discs and name episodes and the like.

You'll probably have to use Google to find out given it involves bypassing Copy-Protection so is more then likely against site rules. While it can be done fine a on a Laptop it would want to be a good one or you'll be a while.

I watched TNG Conundrum last night and really enjoyed the way the Worf took command but once he found out he wasn't in charge, and had a depressed look, apologized as he still recalled the chain of command, not forgetting poor Riker at the end of the show confused after talking to Troi and Ro.

OldeCinemaSoz · 06-04-2012 10:32pm

maybe old news but i spotted today in one of the rags Lt Uhura (nicelle nichols) sharing a live long and prosper moment with the president of america himself.

:cool:

Kiith · 07-04-2012 12:02pm

OldeCinemaSoz wrote: »

maybe old news but i spotted today in one of the rags Lt Uhura (nicelle nichols) sharing a live long and prosper moment with the president of america himself.

:cool:

downwithpeace · 07-04-2012 12:23pm

He looks more Romulan then Vulcan there.

Myrddin · 07-04-2012 2:40pm

G-Money wrote: »

How do you guys convert your DVD's to media? I just have a laptop and it takes an eternity to rip stuff from DVD to some sort of digital format on the computer. I can also see myself getting annoyed having to burn so many discs and name episodes and the like.

It took an absolute eternity to do 30 seasons of Trek [including two seasons of The Animated Series], all individually named & foldered into season & episode. I didn't use any compression, as I didn't want to lose any quality, just took then from my discs as raw mpeg files.

It was worth it in the end as I have them all now on my media oc, & can browse all episodes via a remote control....but man I'd never wanna have to do it again...so repetitive & boring is the process.

nyarlothothep · 08-04-2012 1:54am

Do you think season 1 TNG is just pure awesome? I like to watch it because it makes me laugh out loud, its so unintentionally funny and goofy that its hard not to like. The music had more gusto too. I was watching the episode where Riker gets the powers of the Q and its just pure win. Nothing could be made like it today, it was a product of particular moment in time in the 80s when such things could actually be made which makes me like it even more.

GreenWolfe · 08-04-2012 3:00am

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Do you think season 1 TNG is just pure awesome? I like to watch it because it makes me laugh out loud, its so unintentionally funny and goofy that its hard not to like. The music had more gusto too. I was watching the episode where Riker gets the powers of the Q and its just pure win. Nothing could be made like it today, it was a product of particular moment in time in the 80s when such things could actually be made which makes me like it even more.

Did you check out Wil Wheaton's review of that episode?

About the talking: I'm very reluctant to criticize my friend Gene Roddenberry, but it seems like a typical Aaron Sorkin criticism can be leveled at him in these early episodes: he puts his words into his characters mouths, and lectures the audience. There are moments of interesting and engaging character interaction between Riker and Q, Riker and Picard, and Picard and Q here, but there's a ton of expository, preachy, I-am-going-to-make-my-point dialogue in those scenes that's emotionally disconnected and tiresome. If a writer or producer wants to get points across to his audience, I think it's better to do it less obviously, with more allegory and less power point presentations. Think of Ron Moore's Battlestar Galactica, and you'll have a perfect example of how to do it right.

The worst episode for that was Too Short a Season imo, but it afflicts a lot of early TNG.

Myrddin · 09-04-2012 8:10pm

Alamarain, count to four
Alamarain, then three more
Alamarain, if you can see
Alamarain, you'll come with me.

God, it's horrific. I'm of the minority who actually likes that ep though

Yes you guessed it, I'm rerunning DS9 :P

GreenWolfe · 09-04-2012 9:49pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Alamarain, count to four
Alamarain, then three more
Alamarain, if you can see
Alamarain, you'll come with me.

God, it's horrific. I'm of the minority who actually likes that ep though

Yes you guessed it, I'm rerunning DS9 :P

You'll be on Jeopardy in no time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYZtaSbnnqU

EDIT: Also, is it me or does the contestant look like a younger Boone?

Myrddin · 13-04-2012 2:20pm

Watched Duet last night. Absolute gem of an episode, deals with the war criminal that ran the Gallitep mining camp. Definitely the pick of Season 1.

Sad Professor · 13-04-2012 3:38pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Watched Duet last night. Absolute gem of an episode, deals with the war criminal that ran the Gallitep mining camp. Definitely the pick of Season 1.

Yeah I always loved that episode. Season 1 of DS9 had a lot of good episodes, especially toward the end.

Myrddin · 13-04-2012 3:48pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

Yeah I always loved that episode. Season 1 of DS9 had a lot of good episodes, especially toward the end.

It's a struggle to get through the opening part of Season 1, but from about half way through you can see it coming into its own. It's well worth battling through it, as the purist in me hates skipping episodes

Princess Peach · 16-04-2012 3:09am

Aw man, I would have paid soooo much money if this had been built!

http://www.ifc.com/fix/2012/04/star-trek-uss-enterprise-las-vegas

Myrddin · 16-04-2012 9:03am

Princess Peach wrote: »

Aw man, I would have paid soooo much money if this had been built!

http://www.ifc.com/fix/2012/04/star-trek-uss-enterprise-las-vegas

It would have been so cool, a full size replica of the Enterprise. But it looks wildly out of place, even in Las Vegas. It looks so weird in the mock up artwork you'd have to wonder would it have been a commercial success. If it were in a theme park now, that's where it'd fit in

norrie rugger · 16-04-2012 9:22am

Or if they made it into a hotel, rather than just a "sight"!!
The transporter could not get me there fast enough

GreenWolfe · 16-04-2012 3:51pm

If that Voyager themed flat couldn't sell, I couldn't imagine a full-size replica of the Enterprise-D doing well. But just to be sure, the Enterprise-D has toilets in its schematics, right?

Seeing as it's Vegas, maybe a Ten-Forward replica could be built as a wedding hall.

downwithpeace · 16-04-2012 5:47pm

EnterNow wrote: »

It's a struggle to get through the opening part of Season 1, but from about half way through you can see it coming into its own. It's well worth battling through it, as the purist in me hates skipping episodes

I'm picking through DS9 again, mainly Garak heavy episodes along with a few others just for the fun of it and fun it is

OldeCinemaSoz · 16-04-2012 6:08pm

Kiith wrote: »

I was always a more janice rand fan meself.

problems aside, she wasn't half bad an actress.

Myrddin · 16-04-2012 6:14pm

Well they certainly knew how to make better androids in the TOS days

Beefy78 · 17-04-2012 2:02pm

Strangest thing happened last night - I found two episodes of Trek which I'd never seen! I'm rewatching DS9 at the moment. I had almost all of the episodes on VHS, watching them religiously and watched it all the time on TV but I'm going through the DVDs for the first time and got about five minutes into an episode and thought 'I don't remember this....'. I must have not bought the VHS of these two episodes for some reason (probably because I was 18, skint and the synopsies didn't interest me enough to spend £12.99 I didn't have on it), never plugged the hole in my VHS collection and then over time forgot it existed.

The episodes were 'Wrongs Darker than Death or Night' and 'Inquisition', both in the latter half of Season Six. The weird thing is that at the time I always thought that the Section 31 storyline didn't quite make sense to me, as if I'd missed where it had begun. 14 years later and the pieces have finally fallen into place...!

I love DS9. It's one of my favourite series of not just Trek but any TV show. I'd long since given up the chance of there ever being any new stories released with these characters yet in a way I found two last night.

downwithpeace · 19-04-2012 2:20pm

Both those are good episodes, Sloan is a really good character and fits perfectly well when pitted against Bashir given his real and fantasy interest in spys.

Dave0301 · 19-04-2012 2:28pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

Both those are good episodes, Sloan is a really good character and fits perfectly well when pitted against Bashir given his real and fantasy interest in spys.

Really liked that episode, loved watching how Bashir deciphered the whole scenario and worked it out through all the small telltale signs!

poiuytsam · 19-04-2012 2:29pm

For me the best series was Voyager , and star trek the nest generations and of course the original. I never got into DS9 in any way , just never tickled my imagination !

Has anyone ever thought if they went further into the future , how the series would have evolved? what new inventions would have been in the very distaant future ? the transporter would have been old technology ?, perhaps time travel common place ?, perhaps a galatcic war would have stopped all civillisiation ?
Or would the world have changed in the respect that , humans average life was 300+ , bones was 134 in 1 episode I think ? could you have manufactured humans as you wanted ?

just thoughts ?

downwithpeace · 19-04-2012 2:46pm

poiuytsam wrote: »

For me the best series was Voyager , and star trek the nest generations and of course the original. I never got into DS9 in any way , just never tickled my imagination !

Has anyone ever thought if they went further into the future , how the series would have evolved? what new inventions would have been in the very distaant future ? the transporter would have been old technology ?, perhaps time travel common place ?, perhaps a galatcic war would have stopped all civillisiation ?
Or would the world have changed in the respect that , humans average life was 300+ , bones was 134 in 1 episode I think ? could you have manufactured humans as you wanted ?

just thoughts ?

TNG and Enterprise touched on some of those, both had time travel as an historical tool with Enterprise going a little further and having it as a weapon for war.

Goldstein · 20-04-2012 1:22am

Beefy78 wrote: »

I love DS9. It's one of my favourite series of not just Trek but any TV show. I'd long since given up the chance of there ever being any new stories released with these characters yet in a way I found two last night.

Ah don't be giving up that easy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Star_Trek_novels#Deep_Space_Nine_.281993-present.29

IvySlayer · 20-04-2012 3:10pm

OK OK Blink of an Eye.

Fantastic Voyager episode. After they got out, if I was Captain Janeway I would waited 2 weeks or so then go back in and go 'Hai sorry about the earthquakes, any cool inventions/technology you can give us?'

Am I making sense here? :pac:

Kiith · 20-04-2012 3:39pm

IvySlayer wrote: »

Am I making sense here? :pac:

I remember thinking the exact same thing. But they probably had a non-interference policy where they wouldn't share technology....like, you know, every advanced race.

Advanced races are dicks :pac:

somuj · 20-04-2012 6:42pm

Kiith wrote: »

I remember thinking the exact same thing. But they probably had a non-interference policy where they wouldn't share technology....like, you know, every advanced race.

Advanced races are dicks :pac:

Yea can ya imagine me going out to the desert or something and meeting a lost tribe and and they all dying off thirst. I could built them a well but they havent invented drilling yet. Oh though ****

nyarlothothep · 20-04-2012 10:01pm

I had a cool dream last night. I dreamt I was in ten forward and I ordered a lettuce sandwich with crisps and a cappuccino. So Guinan was making the lettuce sandwich in front of me and I remarked in my head, "for all the advances of the 24th century, they still make sandwiches by hand..."). Then as I was drinking my cappuccino the Enterprise was leaving a nebula and the borg cube appears out of nowhere. Solid holographic projections of ships commandered by holograms like Moriarity were fired out as decoys and destroyed in quick succession by the cube. Then smaller cubes within the cube began to rotate. I was amazed by this. Suddenly my com badge beeped and I was called to the bridge but I was just standing there going "wooaah! This is why Q Who and The Best of Both World were so epic and sent chills down my spine. This is awesome" as I was requested on the bridge at engineering and tactical over and over again.

al28283 · 21-04-2012 1:05am

nyarlothothep wrote: »

I had a cool dream last night. I dreamt I was in ten forward and I ordered a lettuce sandwich with crisps and a cappuccino. So Guinan was making the lettuce sandwich in front of me and I remarked in my head, "for all the advances of the 24th century, they still make sandwiches by hand..."). Then as I was drinking my cappuccino the Enterprise was leaving a nebula and the borg cube appears out of nowhere. Solid holographic projections of ships commandered by holograms like Moriarity were fired out as decoys and destroyed in quick succession by the cube. Then smaller cubes within the cube began to rotate. I was amazed by this. Suddenly my com badge beeped and I was called to the bridge but I was just standing there going "wooaah! This is why Q Who and The Best of Both World were so epic and sent chills down my spine. This is awesome" as I was requested on the bridge at engineering and tactical over and over again.

That's not what most people would define as cool

nyarlothothep · 21-04-2012 1:30am

al28283 wrote: »

That's not what most people would define as cool

People don't know and have never known what cool is.. I do however.

downwithpeace · 21-04-2012 11:08am

I just finished watching DS9 Sacrifice of Angels and even though it's a good episode I was surprised at some of the scenes, the Cardassian Security guard and the souffle was a terrible scene, he had his ear to the souffle so Ziyal could be in a position to use the hypo-spray on him, it didn't get much better on the escape since Kira and Rom managed to leave the security office armed and get to a cargo bay even though the promenade is frequently shown with armed Jem'Hadar, nit picking yes but still. The other part that raised an eyebrow was when the station is first shown in the episode there are plenty of Jem'Hadar and Cardassian ships in the area but when the Defiant shows up all these ships are no where to be seen, then once the Defiant exits the wormhole and fires on the station there's suddenly enough ships to evacuate Dominion and Cardassian personnel.

Pride Fighter · 24-04-2012 5:24am

nyarlothothep wrote: »

People don't know and have never known what cool is.. I do however.

I'd define it as cool.

nyarlothothep · 24-04-2012 12:46pm

Pride Fighter wrote: »

I'd define it as cool.

Exactly, its cool when you think you're in ten forward on the Enterprise and then you wake up and realize it was all a dream. It doesn't happen very often and it's the next best thing to a holodeck.

Pride Fighter · 25-04-2012 12:44am

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Exactly, its cool when you think you're in ten forward on the Enterprise and then you wake up and realize it was all a dream. It doesn't happen very often and it's the next best thing to a holodeck.

Your dream certainly beat the occasional nightmares I had about Romulans chasing me and vaporising me with their disruptors when I was a kid

Myrddin · 27-04-2012 9:36am

Andrew Robinson [Garak] is 70 years old!
Marc Alaimo [Dukat] is 69 years old!
Aron Eisenberg [Nog[ is 43!
Chase Masterson [Leeta] is 49!

That is just wrong

Beefy78 · 27-04-2012 9:39am

Ahhh Chase Masterson. Now there's a woman.

Myrddin · 27-04-2012 9:43am

Beefy78 wrote: »

Ahhh Chase Masterson. Now there's a woman.

She's good at umax I hear :P

Beefy78 · 27-04-2012 10:10am

I bet she's good at a lot of things.

I think I need to lie down.

GreenWolfe · 27-04-2012 12:20pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Andrew Robinson [Garak] is 70 years old!
Marc Alaimo [Dukat] is 69 years old!
Aron Eisenberg [Nog[ is 43!
Chase Masterson [Leeta] is 49!

That is just wrong

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? :eek:

Myrddin · 27-04-2012 12:22pm

EarthlyPangaea wrote: »

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat? :eek:

Exactly!

I was reading about DS9 on wikipedia, & clicled some of the recurring casts names. Shocking stuff. How the hell can Garak be 70 nowadays, shocking stuff

downwithpeace · 27-04-2012 4:47pm

Not that hard to believe considering how long ago it started airing on tv.

Myrddin · 27-04-2012 4:50pm

downwithpeace wrote: »

Not that hard to believe considering how long ago it started airing on tv.

Well obviously

It's just so hard to imagine Dukat or Garak as 70 year old men. Those characters are timeless if you ask me

downwithpeace · 27-04-2012 7:07pm

EnterNow wrote: »

Well obviously

It's just so hard to imagine Dukat or Garak as 70 year old men. Those characters are timeless if you ask me

The characters yes, actors no.

It does make me wonder though what a 70 year old Garak would be like, list of names as long as his arm with names crossed off...one by one.

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