The rise of fascism in the 21st Century

RandomName2 wrote: »

Ah, so you don't care whether or not it can be proven that travelers are a race? If you don't care, how do you think anybody is going to take you seriously?

You got to pick your battles kill16bhoy.



I was clearly talking about the hurler.




I think you should look at jonatan pie about how trump won the election - particularly the bit about how insulting people generally tends to make them be less disposed to agreeing with you. Also, if you are going to insult someone, at least get halfway decent at it for fcuk sake.

mammajamma wrote: »

Yes, they are all part of a pyramid scheme. They displace local workers, use housing, use healthcare, use all facilities. They don't exist for a job in isolation. There is more than a fair chance they will stay here, grow old here, send children into schools here, require pensions and sustenance here. Never mind the social effects.

A strong argument would be bringing in foreign workers to train local workers where there is a GENUINE lack of skills. It should be timestamped and when the worker has been trained, there is no need for the foreign worker. But of course, that would be far too sensible, and never happens. You either have a country that works for ITS people, or not.

Side point, what good is a huge international company that pays fractional tax, employs 40 to 70% plus non-irish people, and can be gone in the blink of an eye...exactly how great is tying ourselves to that kind of setup? Its not, is the answer.

Sustainability is the name of the game, and if an industry cannot survive in a country without gigantic outside reliance, then it is quite simply a bad idea in the first place

Generally speaking, a pyramid scheme. And don't forget, we have plenty and plenty of irish people qualifying as nurses doctors etc....where have they gone? To get higher wages elsewhere because the pay here isn't good enough? Would that be related to the fact that imported health workers are paid less? Are they connected?

Do the irish people educated here on the back of irish people paying tax going to cause the same problem for another countries indigenous population of healthworkers?

Its a big old swindle, the whole shebang. Observed reality, as I said earlier, hence the growing anger everywhere.

QuintusFabius wrote: »

BOLLOCKS

mammajamma wrote: »

Its a pyramid scheme. If it doesn't work, it shouldn't be here and we should be doing something else. A fundamental observation. And trying to state that "something is better than nothing in the short term" wont win anyone over anymore.

And don't forget, im not here to provide some magical solution (as if thats a great reason to dismiss everything out of hand), its to simply point out the sheer inadequacies of the current band-aid solutions to economic "empowerment"

Again, observed reality is the instigator for this backlash.

As for "laughably simplistic economic ideas", what are you expecting, a full 500 page policy? Or is it just a quick way to bail out of the obvious?

You start at the start of a problem, the basics. Then you work up. People who like to get involved at the dithering end of stuff have a tendency to talk and walk in circles. If you cant work from first principles, you aren't worth a jot in your profession.

Heres the basic: international mega corporations that pay fractional tax while hiring vast majority non-indigenous people are a bad foundational economic pillar for a country. Simple as that.

Silentcorner wrote: »

Good f##king jesus.

There are many parts of many different nations and races that I find fascinating and am intrigued by, and yes, there are a lot of different aspects of Jewish Culture and history that I really admire.

Who knew that made me a racist and an anti semite.