Extinction Rebellion Ireland

weldoninhio wrote: »

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnddddddddddddddddddd here's the preaching back. :rolleyes:

Its a question where am i preaching?

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

As the great late Dublin naturalist Lugs Brannigan once said



i.e. if we keep doing what we are doing therell be nothing left

Let nature take its course

weldoninhio wrote: »

Just not timely enough for you to bother joining them, eh?? :rolleyes:

I’m giving them as much support as I can. Online support and spiritual support

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Thoughts and prayers......lol.

Not so much prayers but good vibes being sent their way yes

I can tell ya as we all do our daily tasks and toils around this little gem of an island there’s loads of ppl giving them thoughts and just good intentions quietly while getting on with their daily life

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Whataboutery really. We all need to eat less meat and fly less, I say this as someone flying home tomorrow.

Why don't you stay there and help lessen our carbon emissions.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Well we don't all need beef and dairy to stay alive.

Ah yes go for soya instead.
Remind me again how much soya is grown in Ireland :rolleyes:

Calhoun wrote: »

Well I never actually said destroy or wreck the farming business and if we are to tackle climate change we can have no sacred cows. I see your a farmer actually/grew up on one so I now understand why you were waiting on this one.

Look at the harm that pesticides do to the local environment and particularly how it contributes to food stock.

You either want change on a societal level or you don't. Nothing worse than the nut bags who are borderline climate deniers and only want to do something as long as its not their hobby horse.

Did I ever say that farming is perfect or that there does need to be improvements ?
Pesticides/insecticides are a problem, and that all comes from the issue of trying to attain high yields and cheap prices.

Ultimately people are paying too little for their food.
See how food prices have not increased relative to production costs over time.

And did I ever deny that there is climate change ?

Don't try and come the smart**se trying to attribute things to me that I never said or wrote.

If anything farmers and people of a farming background are some of those most tuned into how climate and weather patterns have already changed over the decades.
The difference between when I was a child in the 70s and today is huge in terms of weather patterns and overall climate.

But no according to some the only ones that know about that are some scientists and the environmentalist elite ar**holes. :rolleyes:

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not so much prayers but good vibes being sent their way yes

I can tell ya as we all do our daily tasks and toils around this little gem of an island there’s loads of ppl giving them thoughts and just good intentions quietly while getting on with their daily life

Except for the ppl who can't get on with their daily lives due to disruption.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not so much prayers but good vibes being sent their way yes

I can tell ya as we all do our daily tasks and toils around this little gem of an island there’s loads of ppl giving them thoughts and just good intentions quietly while getting on with their daily life

jmayo wrote: »

Did I ever say that farming is perfect or that there does need to be improvements ?
Pesticides/insecticides are a problem, and that all comes from the issue of trying to attain high yields and cheap prices.

Ultimately people are paying too little for their food.
See how food prices have not increased relative to production costs over time.

And did I ever deny that there is climate change ?

Don't try and come the smart**se trying to attribute things to me that I never said or wrote.

If anything farmers and people of a farming background are some of those most tuned into how climate and weather patterns have already changed over the decades.
The difference between when I was a child in the 70s and today is huge in terms of weather patterns and overall climate.

But no according to some the only ones that know about that are some scientists and the environmentalist elite ar**holes. :rolleyes:

No you didn't deny climate change but turn about is fair play as you attributed allot to my comment that i never actually said. You seem to be waiting for a comment on farmers so you could explode, from what you wrote it came across as putting them on a pedestal.

You don't see the irony in saying that your view point as farming stock is more important than environmentalist and scientists?

As per my original point we collectively as a society need to discuss it and all options have to be on the table and no sacred cows. That is the reality of what we need to face up to as a society.

Checkmate19 wrote: »

This stuff is being forced down peoples throats. Yet nobody knows and if you disagree your like a halocaust denier. People have the right to question the science. I for one dont believe alot of it. Without the usa and china and africa not being on board it doesn't really matter much anyway. Alot of countries are buying credits to get around their targets anyway

Well most people in these threads dont believe the science like you so youre in good company.
Also nothing is being forced down anyones throats. We are consuming more than ever! We are doing nothing meaningful for the climate or environment problems.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Well most people in these threads dont believe the science like you so youre in good company.
Also nothing is being forced down anyones throats. We are consuming more than ever! We are doing nothing meaningful for the climate or environment problems.

This protest isn’t “doing anything meaningful” for climate or environment either.

Thisna bunch of people detached from the real world who are out making a nuisance of themselves so they can go home and feel smug. They will post on their iPhones, have their heating on, travel in cars and on airplanes, go on holidays. They aren’t willing to live the life they are calling others to endure. They don’t even stick to any principles, many photographed ordering food in McDonalds, supporting a company who drive factory farming, and who give away more cheap tat toys than any other company globally. Plenty of us are actually doing far more for the environment than these conmen can dream of.

And again with accusing people of being science deniers just because they don’t agree with the extremist reactions this group and others want.

_Brian wrote: »

I’m confident I’m not far off the mark with most of them.

Or is making generalised statements only for you as you tarnish anyone who disagrees as a science denier.

You forgot the 2 yoga holidays in Bali a year. I doubt a lot of them are hardcore either but they just want the government and people to make at least some changes. We can't carry on as is.

HorrorScope wrote:

Yeah evil Ireland with its 0.11% emissions, we need to stop immediately This is nothing but pissing in to the wind until US, India, Africa and Asia get on board and nothing or nobody will convince me otherwise. Ireland flagellating its people with carbon taxes and going back to the horse and cart is going to save the world huzzah

We re not going back to the horse and cart, we re ploughing on, it ll be interesting to see what green tech comes from all this

HorrorScope wrote: »

Yeah evil Ireland with its 0.11% emissions, we need to stop immediately :rolleyes: This is nothing but pissing in to the wind until US, India, Africa and Asia get on board and nothing or nobody will convince me otherwise. Ireland flagellating its people with carbon taxes and going back to the horse and cart is going to save the world huzzah

Does the continuing loss of biodiversity and the pollution of our waterways and the increasing reliance on cars in ireland not bother you? Or the fact we import millions of tonnes of maize and soy from south america every year to feed irish cattle of which most of is exported as beef and dairy? That sounds like madness to me and like we are destroying whats left of the island.

HorrorScope wrote: »

Nope - pollution of rivers does, reliance on cars doesn’t. Times change, more job creation means more cars on the road. We spent long enough in a ****ing recession not to be anything but positive about that.



Nope again but literally couldn’t care less about this one - are you saying import/export is evil? How do you think products get in and out of this country? And I’m not a vegan so couldn’t care what they are fed on as long as they taste good.

ok so you don't care about any of this stuff I don't even know why you're posting here.

Fecking nightmare trying to get home random roads blocked around merrion square traffic at a standstill pumping out carbon into the air...had to walk to get my second bus in the lashing rain.
This is not the way to get people on side.

vriesmays wrote: »

I would guess most on this thread would want to see the Garda beat the crap of them after invading that shop.

So you're cool with fast fashion and the damage it does to the environment?
Do you think people protesting against things in Ireland should be beaten up by the police?

Thelonious Monk wrote:

So you're cool with fast fashion and the damage it does to the environment? Do you think people protesting against things in Ireland should be beaten up by the police?

To be fair, most of us are having a serious negative effect on the planet via clothing, it's gonna be extremely complicated to unravel this one, but fast fashion certainly isn't helping

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Saviours of the planet now taking issue with Penny's. Seems the organisers are liars. One of whom was on the Morning Ireland show on Monday claiming they were not going to disrupt the public.

People should have an issue with Penney's, it's grotesque the amount of crap they produce, that no one really needs. Poor old billionaire polluting Penney's having to put up with a few kids protesting. Yeah get the police to smash up their faces.