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Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Money, popularity. Lots of people in Ireland don't realise just how big of a name he is worldwide.
    When you have sportsmen in the US, Europe, South America, South Africa, Australia and Asia copying your walking when they score in their game you realise just how big he has become.

    Let's not get bogged down in whose walk it was. McGregor made it famous again and worldwide.

    Ah yes, the walk really puts him in the same ballpark as Jordan, Messi, Ronaldo, Hamilton etc.

    He is probably second lowest on that list of athletes in terms of net worth, behind Brady I think. He doesn't compare in terms of stats or achievements in his sport. Not even close.
    He was at the top of his sport. And he had the personality, charm and charisma to match. Had he kept competing and winning, let’s say 2 to 3 fights a year, even if he lost the title but managed to win it back, everybody loved him and his fights thrilled us all especially the Americans. And he was one of our own. What other Irish sports star is the face of their game?? I don’t follow golf, horse racing or women’s boxing if you wanna say they are at the top. I shuda had Federer in that list also, a list that Conor could be in if he had kept focus and not been so hands on with the other businesses he has.

    Yeah, if my granny had wheels she'd be a wagon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Gintonious wrote:
    Ah yes, the walk really puts him in the same ballpark as Jordan, Messi, Ronaldo, Hamilton etc.
    He is probably second lowest on that list of athletes in terms of net worth, behind Brady I think. He doesn't compare in terms of stats or achievements in his sport. Not even close.
    Who mentioned stats or achievements?

    Purely on being world famous he belongs in that bracket. Well ahead of Hamilton I'd guess and Brady.
    My favourite sportsperson is Tom Brady btw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Who mentioned stats or achievements?

    Purely on being world famous he belongs in that bracket. Well ahead of Hamilton I'd guess and Brady.
    My favourite sportsperson is Tom Brady btw.

    What was I thinking, mentioning stats and achievements. So silly of me, we all know the mark of a great sportsman is if people mimic your walk.

    Can't say I would place him ahead of Hamilton, with him being a 6 time F1 world champion and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Gintonious wrote:
    What was I thinking, mentioning stats and achievements. So silly of me, we all know the mark of a great sportsman is if people mimic your walk.
    Can't say I would place him ahead of Hamilton, with him being a 6 time F1 world champion and all that.
    Well I'm a sports guy, if you asked me to name current famous sportspeople Lewis Hamilton would not be named. If you asked me to name current famous people in Motorsport he would be behind Marc Marquez, Valentino Rossi and Jimmie Johnson on a global scale I think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Good to see that my post and list is getting the respect it deserves!! The point I was making is that Conor achieved elite world mega stardom, and had he continued to perform consistently at the sport like those others he would be just as famous. Now I think he will be more associated with the likes of George Best, Zlatan, Rodman, Arrancha Sanchez, the beast Edmundo and Jim Kelly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Good to see that my post and list is getting the respect it deserves!! The point I was making is that Conor achieved elite world mega stardom, and had he continued to perform consistently at the sport like those others he would be just as famous. Now I think he will be more associated with the likes of George Best, Zlatan, Rodman, Arrancha Sanchez, the beast Edmundo and Jim Kelly.

    :D

    Zlatan would not be impressed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well I'm a sports guy, if you asked me to name current famous sportspeople Lewis Hamilton would not be named. If you asked me to name current famous people in Motorsport he would be behind Marc Marquez, Valentino Rossi and Jimmie Johnson on a global scale I think.

    I can't take you seriously if you have Jimmie Johnson over Lewis Hamilton.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Gintonious wrote:
    I can't take you seriously if you have Jimmie Johnson over Lewis Hamilton.
    You've probably never left Ireland or at best Europe which would make your view understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You've probably never left Ireland or at best Europe which would make your view understandable.

    I live in Vancouver, sweetheart.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    I don't know why people denying how big of a star Conor is. MMA is the fastest growing sport in the world, and it's completely on the back of Conor.
    It might seem weird putting him on a pedestal with the likes Messi, but stars of other sports all have to share the stage. Messi is a superstar, but there's also Ronaldo. And Pele, Maradona, etc, from the past.
    In MMA there's only Conor. Who comes close? Ronda maybe, but she's nowhere near Conor. A lot of people actually think the sport is called UFC, and that's because of Conor.

    As for earnings, you have to take the sport in to account. There are footballers playing for basement premier league clubs getting as much per werk as some fighters make per fight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭Homelander


    derfderf wrote: »
    I don't know why people denying how big of a star Conor is. MMA is the fastest growing sport in the world, and it's completely on the back of Conor.
    It might seem weird putting him on a pedestal with the likes Messi, but stars of other sports all have to share the stage. Messi is a superstar, but there's also Ronaldo. And Pele, Maradona, etc, from the past.
    In MMA there's only Conor. Who comes close? Ronda maybe, but she's nowhere near Conor. A lot of people actually think the sport is called UFC, and that's because of Conor.

    As for earnings, you have to take the sport in to account. There are footballers playing for basement premier league clubs getting as much per werk as some fighters make per fight.

    People let their hatred of him cloud their judgement. Over on After Hours recently you had lads claiming that if he wasn't from Ireland, no-one in Ireland would have ever heard of him, and that people like Roy Keane are far more famous and world known than McGregor.

    He's the global face of UFC and as a result, MMA also, and has transcended the sport like many others at the very top of their respective careers in various sports.

    No matter what you think of him, it's just a fact. It's really strangely absurd to try and deny it.

    Like I've no interest in F1, Soccer, Tennis, Basketball, or Golf. But obviously I've heard of Lewis Hamilton, Ronaldo/Messi, the Williams sisters, Michael Jordan or LeBron, Tiger Woods or Rory McIllory, etc.

    McGregor is exactly the same - people who don't even know what MMA even is or have any understanding of, or the faintest interest in it, know of McGregor.

    For some reason some people are just bizarrely desperate to ignore and deny it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    So do you think or truly believe he is retired this time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    pudzey101 wrote:
    So do you think or truly believe he is retired this time?
    It's up to the UFC. If they give him a box office fight he'll be back I think. He's letting them know he doesn't need the money and he wants preferential treatment as the biggest star and biggest earner for them. He wanted either Gaethje or Anderson Silva which would both be huge sellers and they said no to both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    derfderf wrote: »
    I don't know why people denying how big of a star Conor is. MMA is the fastest growing sport in the world, and it's completely on the back of Conor.
    It might seem weird putting him on a pedestal with the likes Messi, but stars of other sports all have to share the stage. Messi is a superstar, but there's also Ronaldo. And Pele, Maradona, etc, from the past.
    In MMA there's only Conor. Who comes close? Ronda maybe, but she's nowhere near Conor. A lot of people actually think the sport is called UFC, and that's because of Conor.

    As for earnings, you have to take the sport in to account. There are footballers playing for basement premier league clubs getting as much per werk as some fighters make per fight.

    I don't think people are denying he is a star, they are denying he is as successful in MMA as for instance Messi in football or Jordan in basketball, in terms of accolades, longevity and overall career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Ush1 wrote:
    I don't think people are denying he is a star, they are denying he is as successful in MMA as for instance Messi in football or Jordan in basketball, in terms of accolades, longevity and overall career.
    I don't see anybody calling McGregor the GOAT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    eagle eye wrote: »
    He wanted either Gaethje or Anderson Silva which would both be huge sellers and they said no to both.
    The UFC didn’t say no. Gaethje (and Ali) said no. For obvious reasons.

    As for Silva. I doubt he could make 185 let alone 170.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Didn't McGregor say he's not interested in fighting Silva now because it is a no win situation for him? Initially he jumped at the idea of fighting 'The Goat' but seeing all the reactions of people saying Silva is too old etc put him off the idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mellor wrote: »
    The UFC didn’t say no. Gaethje (and Ali) said no. For obvious reasons.

    As for Silva. I doubt he could make 185 let alone 170.

    Have you a link to where that's made clear?

    This is some of what McGregor said.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/other-sport/conor-mcgregor-gives-reasons-ufc-18378210


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Justin said it best on the Rogan podcast recently ,Conor has lost touch with his own popularity ,Said himself and other fighters know Conor can no longer demand what he wants and has lost respect among fighters and they just laugh at him now ,

    No body cares about him anymore ,

    I doubt he cares none of them will make the money he has and ultimately that’s what they are in it for


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    It’s very unfortunate that the newly motivated and disciplined Conor and his plan for a full season of fights coincided with the coronavirus. Had the corona come along last year when Conor was acting the bol1ix we would all be excited now for his journey back to glory and Khabib revenge and our adventures in Las Vegas or Bluebell soccer clubhouse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Have you a link to where that's made clear?

    This is some of what McGregor said.

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/sport/other-sport/conor-mcgregor-gives-reasons-ufc-18378210

    Which part needs clarity?
    Justin earned the shot against Khabib and made it clear he was taking it. He’d be mad not to.

    Silva hasn’t made WW since 2006. And has drifting up to 205 on occasion. I don’t think Conor moving to 185 should be taken seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Yeah I can’t understand Conor’s hissy fit here. Does he expect Justin to fight again in July and then face Khabib in September if he were to beat Conor. It was clear Khabib was gonna fight in September so he obviously must face the interim champ. Not a lot of options left for Conor but he could have done the Nate 3, or even BMF title challenge. But I don’t think he was ever gonna fight in an empty arena. Tho he cuda done this island thing just for the novelty of it. Maybe he is even too big a superstar for that, as details on it are even still a bit sketchy. Will there be crowds at it and will they construct small stands??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Fight Island is the biggest case of false advertising since the movie The Never Ending Story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Conor plan for the year was Cerrone, Justin then Khabib/Tony. But this plan got f*ked up by the corona and subsequent Khabib pull out in April. Now he needs to either adjust his plan or retire!! I think he will be back. As crazy as this is, he will probably still face Khabib/Justin for the title at end of the year even if he doesn’t fight till then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    They should just book him to fight Masvidal. Makes sense for both.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,415 ✭✭✭jammiedodgers


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Fight Island is the biggest case of false advertising since the movie The Never Ending Story.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    ricero wrote: »
    They should just book him to fight Masvidal. Makes sense for both.

    I would enjoy this fight.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    Conor done what he wanted to and that was to make enough money so that his family, his children and his grandchildren will never have to worry about money. I respect him for that. And that's where my respect ends.

    He is a one trick pony who was gifted opponents by the UFC due to his ability to draw in the masses. He has a left hand and nothing more, like Nate Diaz the scholar put it, his opponents believed his hype, not him. His win over Aldo was lightning in a bottle. Lucky with Porier, Alvarez bought into the hype and fought stupid. Diaz took him out and in my view won the rematch. Gets demolished by Khabib and then chooses to fight a 2 streak loss Cerrone who suffered the same fate as Alverez.

    He doesn't have the skills to be the top of the game and his bank balance lessened the blow. I think he will have huge regrets when he is an old man. He could have kept fighting and kept the money but he is so desperately afraid to lose neither him nor the UFC will let him fight real opponents. Khabib will not give him a rematch and he will never be champion again while Khabib is still fighting.

    As a man outside the octagon? He is a scumbag. Through and through. He's now just an extremely wealthy scumbag. I would put money down he will end up locked up for a period of time.

    He's a charlatan that so many bought into. I hope he fades into obscurity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Ush1 wrote: »
    I don't think people are denying he is a star, they are denying he is as successful in MMA as for instance Messi in football or Jordan in basketball, in terms of accolades, longevity and overall career.

    He's hugely successful in MMA, and elevated the entire sport to world level attention almost single handedly .......the most watched, most liked and disliked in equal measure ...............there is no comparison to be made with team sports like football and basketball so you're talking out of your hoop


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Conor done what he wanted to and that was to make enough money so that his family, his children and his grandchildren will never have to worry about money. I respect him for that. And that's where my respect ends.

    He is a one trick pony who was gifted opponents by the UFC due to his ability to draw in the masses. He has a left hand and nothing more, like Nate Diaz the scholar put it, his opponents believed his hype, not him. His win over Aldo was lightning in a bottle. Lucky with Porier, Alvarez bought into the hype and fought stupid. Diaz took him out and in my view won the rematch. Gets demolished by Khabib and then chooses to fight a 2 streak loss Cerrone who suffered the same fate as Alverez.

    He doesn't have the skills to be the top of the game and his bank balance lessened the blow. I think he will have huge regrets when he is an old man. He could have kept fighting and kept the money but he is so desperately afraid to lose neither him nor the UFC will let him fight real opponents. Khabib will not give him a rematch and he will never be champion again while Khabib is still fighting.

    As a man outside the octagon? He is a scumbag. Through and through. He's now just an extremely wealthy scumbag. I would put money down he will end up locked up for a period of time.

    He's a charlatan that so many bought into. I hope he fades into obscurity.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Conor done what he wanted to and that was to make enough money so that his family, his children and his grandchildren will never have to worry about money. I respect him for that. And that's where my respect ends.

    He is a one trick pony who was gifted opponents by the UFC due to his ability to draw in the masses. He has a left hand and nothing more, like Nate Diaz the scholar put it, his opponents believed his hype, not him. His win over Aldo was lightning in a bottle. Lucky with Porier, Alvarez bought into the hype and fought stupid. Diaz took him out and in my view won the rematch. Gets demolished by Khabib and then chooses to fight a 2 streak loss Cerrone who suffered the same fate as Alverez.

    He doesn't have the skills to be the top of the game and his bank balance lessened the blow. I think he will have huge regrets when he is an old man. He could have kept fighting and kept the money but he is so desperately afraid to lose neither him nor the UFC will let him fight real opponents. Khabib will not give him a rematch and he will never be champion again while Khabib is still fighting.

    As a man outside the octagon? He is a scumbag. Through and through. He's now just an extremely wealthy scumbag. I would put money down he will end up locked up for a period of time.

    He's a charlatan that so many bought into. I hope he fades into obscurity.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Conor done what he wanted to and that was to make enough money so that his family, his children and his grandchildren will never have to worry about money. I respect him for that. And that's where my respect ends.

    He is a one trick pony who was gifted opponents by the UFC due to his ability to draw in the masses. He has a left hand and nothing more, like Nate Diaz the scholar put it, his opponents believed his hype, not him. His win over Aldo was lightning in a bottle. Lucky with Porier, Alvarez bought into the hype and fought stupid. Diaz took him out and in my view won the rematch. Gets demolished by Khabib and then chooses to fight a 2 streak loss Cerrone who suffered the same fate as Alverez.

    He doesn't have the skills to be the top of the game and his bank balance lessened the blow. I think he will have huge regrets when he is an old man. He could have kept fighting and kept the money but he is so desperately afraid to lose neither him nor the UFC will let him fight real opponents. Khabib will not give him a rematch and he will never be champion again while Khabib is still fighting.

    As a man outside the octagon? He is a scumbag. Through and through. He's now just an extremely wealthy scumbag. I would put money down he will end up locked up for a period of time.

    He's a charlatan that so many bought into. I hope he fades into obscurity.

    Thank you for your wise words. I've wasted years following this thread, why did you not arrive sooner to share this undisputable truth?

    How have I never noticed that this, now clearly obvious, 'one trick pony' has fluked his way to two world titles. It's so clear to me now, he beat cherry picked opponents with nothing more than mind control and a left hand. Thank you.

    I look forward to your next sermon. Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?


  • Registered Users Posts: 226 ✭✭Annd9


    Conor done what he wanted to and that was to make enough money so that his family, his children and his grandchildren will never have to worry about money. I respect him for that. And that's where my respect ends.

    He is a one trick pony who was gifted opponents by the UFC due to his ability to draw in the masses. He has a left hand and nothing more, like Nate Diaz the scholar put it, his opponents believed his hype, not him. His win over Aldo was lightning in a bottle. Lucky with Porier, Alvarez bought into the hype and fought stupid. Diaz took him out and in my view won the rematch. Gets demolished by Khabib and then chooses to fight a 2 streak loss Cerrone who suffered the same fate as Alverez.

    He doesn't have the skills to be the top of the game and his bank balance lessened the blow. I think he will have huge regrets when he is an old man. He could have kept fighting and kept the money but he is so desperately afraid to lose neither him nor the UFC will let him fight real opponents. Khabib will not give him a rematch and he will never be champion again while Khabib is still fighting.

    As a man outside the octagon? He is a scumbag. Through and through. He's now just an extremely wealthy scumbag. I would put money down he will end up locked up for a period of time.

    He's a charlatan that so many bought into. I hope he fades into obscurity.

    Chill out Ali some of your fighters have big fights coming up .


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    Thank you for your wise words. I've wasted years following this thread, why did you not arrive sooner to share this undisputable truth?

    How have I never noticed that this, now clearly obvious, 'one trick pony' has fluked his way to two world titles. It's so clear to me now, he beat cherry picked opponents with nothing more than mind control and a left hand. Thank you.

    I look forward to your next sermon. Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?
    Aldo was a fluke. Give me your arguments against. It was a flash KO. Aldo bought into the hype. Alvarez was the same, I don't think that fight was a fluke win I think Alvarez bought into the McGregor hype train and was not mentally prepared for the fight. On skill I believe Alvarez to be the better fighter.

    His win to take the 145lb belt was a fluke. He was then gifted a shot at 155lbs and fought a man who mentally crumbled under the McGregor train. A perfect storm. He's a con artist of the highest order. Khabib showed him to be exactly what he is, a charlatan scumbag.


    Let him fight Poirier or Ferguson and see how well he does. He is no where near top 5, barley makes top 10 in my view.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,360 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    Conor done what he wanted to and that was to make enough money so that his family, his children and his grandchildren will never have to worry about money. I respect him for that. And that's where my respect ends.

    He is a one trick pony who was gifted opponents by the UFC due to his ability to draw in the masses. He has a left hand and nothing more, like Nate Diaz the scholar put it, his opponents believed his hype, not him. His win over Aldo was lightning in a bottle. Lucky with Porier, Alvarez bought into the hype and fought stupid. Diaz took him out and in my view won the rematch. Gets demolished by Khabib and then chooses to fight a 2 streak loss Cerrone who suffered the same fate as Alverez.

    He doesn't have the skills to be the top of the game and his bank balance lessened the blow. I think he will have huge regrets when he is an old man. He could have kept fighting and kept the money but he is so desperately afraid to lose neither him nor the UFC will let him fight real opponents. Khabib will not give him a rematch and he will never be champion again while Khabib is still fighting.

    As a man outside the octagon? He is a scumbag. Through and through. He's now just an extremely wealthy scumbag. I would put money down he will end up locked up for a period of time.

    He's a charlatan that so many bought into. I hope he fades into obscurity.

    But he told the judge he would never see him in court again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    He kO'd Poirier in one though albeit at a lower weight. I guess we'll never truly know where he fits in in the 155 standings due to him fighting there so infrequently there. His fight against Alvarez was imo his best performance in the UFC, but it was a good matchup for him and Eddie didn't help himself either. I'd absolutely put him in the Top 5 of the division though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭Queasy Tadpole


    But he told the judge he would never see him in court again.
    How many times has McGregor been arrested, reported or not on both sides of the athletic in the last few years?


    I know you're cracking a joke but he is deffo ending up behind bars at some point. He's an outright scumbag who has been able to pay his way out of cuffs for a while. Eventually something will stick.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    But he told the judge he would never see him in court again.
    How many times has McGregor been arrested, reported or not on both sides of the athletic in the last few years?


    I know you're cracking a joke but he is deffo ending up behind bars at some point. He's an outright scumbag who has been able to pay his way out of cuffs for a while. Eventually something will stick.
    As neither of you appear capable of reading the thread title you are both threadbanned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79


    Aldo was a fluke. Give me your arguments against.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rCNI9M73jL8

    End of argument.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You can’t ban me. I retire. Thanks for the cheese.

    I was embarrassed reading that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mellor wrote:
    Which part needs clarity? Justin earned the shot against Khabib and made it clear he was taking it. He’d be mad not to.
    Silva hasn’t made WW since 2006. And has drifting up to 205 on occasion. I don’t think Conor moving to 185 should be taken seriously.
    Well he, Gaethje, jumped the queue, he was behind Conor in the rankings and is now ahead of him without fighting him. How does that happen, because Conor had just had a fight? Is that fair? Do you not think Conor has a gripe after doing yet another 1 million sales ppv? Do you not think he deserves a shot at the interim belt?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    He's hugely successful in MMA, and elevated the entire sport to world level attention almost single handedly .......the most watched, most liked and disliked in equal measure ...............there is no comparison to be made with team sports like football and basketball so you're talking out of your hoop

    I didn't make the comparison.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,476 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't see anybody calling McGregor the GOAT?

    A poster compared him to those people.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    People jump ahead of others all the time without having fought them.. It's quite simple. Beating a 12 fight unbeaten Ferguson carries more weight than beating Cowboy, who loses all the time. Also, when you win the interim title, you almost always get a title shot in your next fight barring injuries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,894 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well he, Gaethje, jumped the queue, he was behind Conor in the rankings and is now ahead of him without fighting him. How does that happen, because Conor had just had a fight? Is that fair? Do you not think Conor has a gripe after doing yet another 1 million sales ppv? Do you not think he deserves a shot at the interim belt?

    He was called up and took a fight on short notice, Conor was offered the same fight and declined. Gaethje went ahead a beat Ferguson, soundly at that, so he has deservedly landed himself where he is, he stopped Cerrone at 155 as well before Conor, so I think he has earned his spot.

    Maybe if Conor fought at 155 after his layoff that might have warranted more of a argument for a fight for the interim title, but he turned it down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Well he, Gaethje, jumped the queue, he was behind Conor in the rankings and is now ahead of him without fighting him. How does that happen, because Conor had just had a fight? Is that fair? Do you not think Conor has a gripe after doing yet another 1 million sales ppv? Do you not think he deserves a shot at the interim belt?
    Fighters jump other fighters without having faced them all the time. Tony jumped Conor even though he never faced the former No.1.
    It's a dynamic list, not the ladder to face M.Bison in Street Fighter.
    Cody Garbrandt just jumped 4 top 10 fighters. Perez jumped 5.

    I think it's certainly fair. Justin deserves it. I think it's silly that Tony didn;t slip a spot after his loss, but it's inconsequential really.

    Conor's PPV sales have no bearing in his rank or on who deserves the shot. That's more related to whether he can demand to headline on his own, or share a card as with the lower weights.
    If Tony won, you wouldn't be making a case that Conor deserves a shot at the interim.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Mellor wrote: »
    It's a dynamic list, not the ladder to face M.Bison in Street Fighter.

    :D, I'm stealing this.
    I can't believe people still think you need to beat every fighter ahead of you. If that was the case the FW division would have just been Frankie and Aldo fighting for the title every year, with Frankie beating the number 2 contender in between.
    Come to think of it, didn't Conor skip Frankie under these rules?


  • Registered Users Posts: 443 ✭✭Starlord_01


    Aldo was a fluke. Give me your arguments against. It was a flash KO. Aldo bought into the hype. Alvarez was the same, I don't think that fight was a fluke win I think Alvarez bought into the McGregor hype train and was not mentally prepared for the fight. On skill I believe Alvarez to be the better fighter.

    His win to take the 145lb belt was a fluke. He was then gifted a shot at 155lbs and fought a man who mentally crumbled under the McGregor train. A perfect storm. He's a con artist of the highest order. Khabib showed him to be exactly what he is, a charlatan scumbag.


    Let him fight Poirier or Ferguson and see how well he does. He is no where near top 5, barley makes top 10 in my view.

    Please stop :pac::pac::pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    We should have a Mcgregor V Diaz 2 watch party

    im genuinely interested in where people saw Diaz winning that.

    iv watched it at id say nearly 10 times and even turned volume up higher so when Mcgregor rolled 90% of Diaz slaps rogans "oh he is hurt" was crisp in my ear, and even still im baffled when people say it.

    Watch it without volume and its even more convincing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,471 ✭✭✭pgj2015


    I always thought Diaz won the second fight.


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