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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,534 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Oh shut up

    Don't be telling other posters what to do. If you have a problem with a post or poster report it and leave the mods to deal with it

    Any questions PM me

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Ireland's national debt was about $50 billion just before banking crisis
    Let me explain where I am coming from. I think certain things are too important to be left to the public sector. Water works, healthcare, rescue services and such are examples of these things which are just too important not to privatize. I would fully support the government if it wanted to monopolize unimportant things like the sale of alcohol, tobacco products, gambling and cocaine.

    We see the chaos in the US re private only healthcare where millions are uninsured and people have to sell their house to pay for simple enough procedures.

    Private water and rescue services only would be a disaster. Likely vast areas of the country would be left without because they don't or can't pay. You would turn large parts of major cities into something out of dystopian sci-fi movies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Let me explain where I am coming from. I think certain things are too important to be left to the public sector. Water works, healthcare, rescue services and such are examples of these things which are just too important not to privatize. I would fully support the government if it wanted to monopolize unimportant things like the sale of alcohol, tobacco products, gambling and cocaine.

    So you want a system that makes sure you have insurance before treating you? Keep.a spare €200 tucked away for the ambulance to ensure you actually get to hospital:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ...and theres little or no evidence to support that austerity actually truly has any positive effects in society, anywhere on this planet, but plenty of evidence to support, its a train wreck of an idea

    It was the austerity and cutbacks of the late eighties that stimulated the economy, brought unemployment down from 18%, ended a recession and mass annual emigration and gave us the celtic tiger.

    I think I know where you might be confused, you are thinking of consumer led economic growth which I would consider a terrible idea. Export led economic growth is what really drives an economy forward.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    unimportant, highly addictive substances and activities!!!!

    People may want addictive things but irrespective of cravings, they don`t need them. So yes, unimportant.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Beasty wrote: »
    Don't be telling other posters what to do. If you have a problem with a post or poster report it and leave the mods to deal with it


    I agree Beasty. Some people!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Ireland's national debt was about $50 billion just before banking crisis.

    ... and now its more than 200 billion. The taxpayer was taxed a lot of money to pay for a state run financial regulator that failed to regulate. The state made the incompetent decision to bail out the banks and worse, they did it with borrowed money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,906 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    It was the austerity and cutbacks of the late eighties that stimulated the economy, brought unemployment down from 18%, ended a recession and mass annual emigration and gave us the celtic tiger.

    I disagree of course, when the neoliberal/neoclassical ideology truly took hold in the 80's/90's, globally, the world economy took off, resulting in the tiger, and sure we all know what happened next.

    I think I know where you might be confused, you are thinking of consumer led economic growth which I would consider a terrible idea. Export led economic growth is what really drives an economy forward.

    No I'm not all that confused, export to who, with a global slow down looking inevitable, and the fact we ve moved more towards a service economy?
    People may want addictive things but irrespective of cravings, they don`t need them. So yes, unimportant.

    Please research addiction problems, you clearly don't have much knowledge here either, just a dreadful judgemental approach
    ... and now its more than 200 billion. The taxpayer was taxed a lot of money to pay for a state run financial regulator that failed to regulate. The state made the incompetent decision to bail out the banks and worse, they did it with borrowed money.

    Again, another fine element of your beloved neoliberal/neoclassical ideology, 'light touch', I do suspect, if the bailouts didn't occur, we d probably be dealing with far more serious problems, possible a world war, who knows


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    I disagree of course, when the neoliberal/neoclassical ideology truly took hold in the 80's/90's, globally, the world economy took off, resulting in the tiger, and sure we all know what happened next.

    The Celtic tiger was really two boom periods in rappid succession. The first part was real and export led and later there was the artificial stimulus era for which Bertie is to blame.



    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    No I'm not all that confused, export to who, with a global slow down looking inevitable, and the fact we ve moved more towards a service economy?

    All recessions mean fewer buyers and that is to a certain extent beyond our control but by becoming a low pay economy, we can compete. Things that were uneconomical to produce become economical and if nothing else it ensures a degree of self sufficiency which is needed during recessions. It also means employment opportunities, by contrast there will be no such employment opportunities if labour costs are kept high. As for a service economy, that cannot happen in credit crunch conditions as the velocity of money around the economy slows. The solution is low labour costs, I mean people can always work even if nobody will employ them. Its simple, find something to do and do it. By using ones brain, one will derive benefit as a result.


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Please research addiction problems, you clearly don't have much knowledge here either, just a dreadful judgemental approach

    My research tells me that people who have a vested interest in the government employing and spending money on counselling and the like invariably bleat on about such things. I understand cold turkey also works and it requires no more skill than slamming a door and turning a key.


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Again, another fine element of your beloved neoliberal/neoclassical ideology, 'light touch', I do suspect, if the bailouts didn't occur, we d probably be dealing with far more serious problems, possible a world war, who knows

    The world war you want to avoid is now practically inevitable because we did not take the bitter medicine before it was too late. Yesterday when Mario Draghi put questions to the journalists, one of them made the observation that the markets see ECB policy as QE infinity. So QE has failed to do what it was intended to do (as I predicted so many times before) and the consequences will be much worse than if the tough decisions had been made a decade ago.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The world war you want to avoid is now practically inevitable because we did not take the bitter medicine before it was too late.

    This is surely correct, and not a ludicrous falsehood. I have the bomb shelter reinforced. Room for one more. Make sure you bring Barry's, as Lyons will lead to expulsion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    This is surely correct, and not a ludicrous falsehood. I have the bomb shelter reinforced. Room for one more. Make sure you bring Barry's, as Lyons will lead to expulsion.

    He's gone from wrongly predicting recession/Depression to now predicting WW3 :ROLLEYES:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    This is surely correct, and not a ludicrous falsehood. I have the bomb shelter reinforced. Room for one more. Make sure you bring Barry's, as Lyons will lead to expulsion.

    Thanks but I`d rather take my chances with the nuclear fallout.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,137 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Thanks but I`d rather take my chances with the nuclear fallout.




    Safer than being in a confined space with a barrys drinker. Probably reads the examiner as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://www.government.se/government-policy/a-feminist-government/
    Sweden officially claim to have the first feminist government in the world.


    Sweden government visits Iran, look at their happy feminist faces under the hijabs
    gobierno_suecia_iran_999.jpg


    International new outlet
    Fury as feminist Swedish minister wears HIJAB as she 'bows down to oppressive' Iran https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/766744/Swedish-minister-Ann-Linde-feminist-hijab-Iran-oppressive

    Merkel visits Saudi Arabia, a country even more anti-women than Iran. Does not wear scarf.

    Saudi-Arabia-Angela-Merkel-827122.jpg

    Merkel is more feminist than Sweden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Sweden delivers again:

    Sweden: Nigerian migrant rapper with 280,000 YouTube subs urges blacks to shoot, enslave, and kill white people

    https://theliberal.ie/nigerian-rapper-in-sweden-tells-followers-to-attack-and-kill-white-people-in-racist-rant/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,135 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    biko wrote: »
    Sweden delivers again:

    Sweden: Nigerian migrant rapper with 280,000 YouTube subs urges blacks to shoot, enslave, and kill white people

    https://theliberal.ie/nigerian-rapper-in-sweden-tells-followers-to-attack-and-kill-white-people-in-racist-rant/

    Given how much Sweden upsets you have you considered not looking it up each day? Save yourself the trauma.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Given how much Sweden upsets you have you considered not looking it up each day? Save yourself the trauma.

    Warning for back seat moderation!

    Edit. Just a joke. I'm not a mod. Or even saying pjohnson shouldn't have posted what he posted. I'd like to offer a heartfelt and sincere apology to all those I've offended and from here on out I will explicitly tag jokes and sarcasm as required by the Boards.ie old brigade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    HailSatan wrote: »
    Warning for back seat moderation!

    The irony :rolleyes:


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Given how much Sweden upsets you have you considered not looking it up each day? Save yourself the trauma.

    Galway is a fairly boring place to be fair, gives them something to do with their time.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    The irony :rolleyes:

    How do you mean?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    HailSatan wrote: »
    How do you mean?

    What you did is considered backseat moderation


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    What you did is considered backseat moderation

    Is it? Have you been chatting to somebody?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    HailSatan wrote: »
    Is it? Have you been chatting to somebody?

    Nope, i have been here long enough though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    Nope, i have been here long enough though.

    You have indeed.


    Where is the definition of back seat nodding?


    Are we required to explicitly tag sarcasm and jokes here? If so could you link me to the SOP please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Given how much Sweden upsets you have you considered not looking it up each day? Save yourself the trauma.
    You mean - "If you don't like the way things are going, maybe you just shouldn't think about it?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    3 years ago this was written:
    Why does Sweden have more boys than girls?

    There is something odd going on with the ratio between boys and girls in Sweden. The latest estimates suggest there are 123 boys for every 100 girls among 16 and 17-year-olds. That's an even greater imbalance than in the same age group in China.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35444173


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Since less than 10 years Sweden have started loving explosions and hand grenades.

    Detonated hand grenades in Sweden
    18b2971644a038e5a4185748470e7018a30d4c4f.png

    The grenades are exclusively from the Yugoslav Wars
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M75_hand_grenade
    A shipment of leftover grenades of this type (and the M-93) from the Yugoslav Wars was taken to Sweden and sold for as little as 20 kronor to organised criminals and street gangs, who have been using them in numerous attacks since 2008

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden
    According to Swedish police the use of hand grenades in crime is unprecedented in all comparable European and non-European countries, and the only countries with similar characteristics are those with warlike conditions, such as Mexico with the ongoing drug war

    So Sweden invited Rick Fuentes, earlier police chief for New Jersey State Police
    He has never seen the level of violence before.
    https://www.expressen.se/nyheter/amerikanske-polischefens-oro-for-svenska-gangvaldet/
    Video i English


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    BBC interview with Swedish police and others about hand grenade violence and the immigrant violence

    What is the link between immigration and crime in Sweden? - BBC Newsnight



    Sweden today, Ireland in 20 years? Ask your progressive friends, it's up to them.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    Isn't all of this fake news? We were told it was fake news.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,135 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    HailSatan wrote: »
    Isn't all of this fake news? We were told it was fake news.

    How dare you interupt biko's twitter-esque Sweden updates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    One day Irish people will think "how did we get here?" and I will be there showing them how they ignored warnings for years and years.

    The easiest way to do this is to show the true face of a country Ireland aspires to be.

    So the next time your progressive friends says "Sweden is great isn't it?" you can say "well, did you know that...?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Does he drive a Volvo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,135 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    biko wrote: »
    One day Irish people will think "how did we get here?" and I will be there showing them how they ignored warnings for years and years.

    The easiest way to do this is to show the true face of a country Ireland aspires to be.

    So the next time your progressive friends says "Sweden is great isn't it?" you can say "well, did you know that...?"

    Whats a "progressive friend"?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 328 ✭✭HailSatan


    Like a progressive fiend but more naive and likeable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    biko wrote: »
    https://www.government.se/government-policy/a-feminist-government/
    Sweden officially claim to have the first feminist government in the world.


    Sweden government visits Iran, look at their happy feminist faces under the hijabs
    gobierno_suecia_iran_999.jpg


    International new outlet
    Fury as feminist Swedish minister wears HIJAB as she 'bows down to oppressive' Iran https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/766744/Swedish-minister-Ann-Linde-feminist-hijab-Iran-oppressive

    Merkel visits Saudi Arabia, a country even more anti-women than Iran. Does not wear scarf.

    Saudi-Arabia-Angela-Merkel-827122.jpg

    Merkel is more feminist than Sweden.

    The law is different in the two countries. Head covering required in Iran, not in Saudi. If Merkel went to Iran, she’d wear a hijab too.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 559 ✭✭✭PostWoke


    biko wrote: »
    The easiest way to do this is to show the true face of a country Ireland aspires to be.

    You couldn't just link a picture of Trudeau in his Halloween getup? :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 370 ✭✭WB Yokes


    biko wrote: »
    BBC interview with Swedish police and others about hand grenade violence and the immigrant violence

    What is the link between immigration and crime in Sweden? - BBC Newsnight



    Sweden today, Ireland in 20 years? Ask your progressive friends, it's up to them.

    They dont care because they hate what Ireland is and was and want it changed beyond recognition. Most of them are childless and will be most likely dead in 20 years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Swedish politician forms party to fight "anti-Muslim sentiment" in probably the least racist country on the planet.



    Mikail Yüksel, dismissed from the country's Center Party, which is known as a party that has center-right, liberal policies, said the new party will fight not only against anti-Muslim sentiments but also for the rights of migrants.

    "I was dismissed from the party before the elections, because I did not speak against Turkey or President [Recep Tayyip] Erdoğan," he claimed.

    "We want Islamophobia to be declared a crime.
    We want Muslims to be recognized as a minority in the constitution,"
    said Yüksel, while spelling out the agenda of his party.
    https://www.dailysabah.com/politics/2019/08/23/turkish-origin-swedish-politician-forms-party-to-fight-anti-muslim-sentiment


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    biko wrote: »
    https://www.government.se/government-policy/a-feminist-government/
    Sweden officially claim to have the first feminist government in the world.


    Sweden government visits Iran, look at their happy feminist faces under the hijabs
    gobierno_suecia_iran_999.jpg


    International new outlet
    Fury as feminist Swedish minister wears HIJAB as she 'bows down to oppressive' Iran https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/766744/Swedish-minister-Ann-Linde-feminist-hijab-Iran-oppressive

    Merkel visits Saudi Arabia, a country even more anti-women than Iran. Does not wear scarf.

    Saudi-Arabia-Angela-Merkel-827122.jpg

    Merkel is more feminist than Sweden.

    Look there are some people out there that say all feminists are man haters because they are ugly which is just not true.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    When two brothers fall out because the stupider brother imports violence.
    Denmark Introduces Checks On Swedish Border To Combat Terrorism

    The announcement is surprising given the extremely close relationship of the two Scandinavian countries.

    The move from the Danish government is in response to several incidents in Copenhagen this summer. Denmark’s Minister for Justice Nick Hækkerup said the temporary checks are to counter cross-border crime and terrorism.

    Among other crimes, Danish Police blame the explosion at the Danish Tax Agency in Copenhagen and the double murder in Herlev on criminals who had crossed the border from Sweden.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2019/10/14/denmark-introduces-checks-on-swedish-border-to-combat-terrorism-travel-delays-expected/


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    biko wrote: »
    One day Irish people will think "how did we get here?" and I will be there showing them how they ignored warnings for years and years.

    The easiest way to do this is to show the true face of a country Ireland aspires to be.

    So the next time your progressive friends says "Sweden is great isn't it?" you can say "well, did you know that...?"


    Don't be silly Biko all record of these warnings will be totally nuked under some hate speech law long before that.

    Sure boards.ie nuked the politics forum because the insane libs lost the argument on uncontrolled open boarders.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,646 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Don't be silly Biko all record of these warnings will be totally nuked under some hate speech law long before that.

    Sure boards.ie nuked the politics forum because the insane libs lost the argument on uncontrolled open boarders.

    Can you cite a single post that has called for this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/10/bomb-attacks-are-now-a-normal-part-of-swedish-life/
    Bomb attacks are now a normal part of Swedish life
    Gang violence is now at a level where it threatens to undermine the Swedish state

    The police bomb squad was already on its way to the first explosion in the district of Vaxholm when it had to turn around and prioritise the detonation at a residential building in the more densely populated city centre. Residents whose doors had been deformed by the shock wave had to be rescued.
    The third target (seemingly unrelated) was a facility belonging to a Syriac Orthodox church, which had already been bombed twice in the past year.

    Explosions have become so normalised in Sweden that SVT, Sweden’s equivalent of the BBC, did not even mention the three explosions in the country’s capital on its national news programme that evening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    Biko, IIRC your username references Steve Biko, the anti-apartheid activist. Or am I totally wrong on this.

    If so, it would be interesting to hear what your adversaries here make of this. The muh racism brigade would have a hard time contextualising this.

    In fairness, what Biko posts isn't untrue from what I can make out and there is a ****-ton of suppression of such stats by countries like Germany and Sweden.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 536 ✭✭✭Harvey Weinstein




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,133 ✭✭✭✭Danzy



    Import mass groups of people wirh views hostile to your own, hostile to society or a shared society, hostile to the rule of law responsibility, work etc.

    This is what you get.

    It's only starting in Sweden.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Biko, IIRC your username references Steve Biko, the anti-apartheid activist. Or am I totally wrong on this.
    You are correct, Steve Biko is a hero of mine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Six radical Muslim leaders were designated serious risks, by security police, to Sweden's national security and were taken into custody to be ejected from Sweden.

    CAGE of course jumped in on the accused's side
    https://www.cage.ngo/cage-calls-for-solidarity-with-swedish-muslims-as-police-arrest-four-imams-during-ramadan

    The problem with deporting these people is that it is claimed they may face problem in their home countries, and therefore cannot be ejected from Sweden.
    But at the same time Swedish law doesn't allow them to be further detained.

    So they are simply set free again to continue making more ISIS warriors.


    One of them, Abo Raad, has inspired many Islamic State sympathisers, has hailed an IS victory in Iraq, and has called for homosexual men to be executed.

    But that's fine, set him free again

    Swedish impotent Social Democrat/Liberal/Green party government:
    this-is-fine-dog-meme-existence-is-pain.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,078 ✭✭✭joseywhales


    Danzy wrote: »
    Import mass groups of people wirh views hostile to your own, hostile to society or a shared society, hostile to the rule of law responsibility, work etc.

    This is what you get.

    It's only starting in Sweden.

    For a moment I thought I was reading about Irish unification


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Don't be silly Biko all record of these warnings will be totally nuked under some hate speech law long before that.

    Sure boards.ie nuked the politics forum because the insane libs lost the argument on uncontrolled open boarders.

    I'm calling BS, nobody has ever won an argument on the politics forum.


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