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Aritech CS350 Alarm - Low Battery

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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You need to check the mains fuse. Also check the output of the mains power supply. It should be around 18vac.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    BTE72 wrote: »
    Yes the display panel is blank.

    I disconnected the power to the panel as i couldn't stop the bell sounding.

    Tks,

    Yes, replacing the battery plus mains power will bring it back on. Just enter your code to disarm the bells ringing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Basil Faulty


    i have recently replaced my battery as it had gone dead. however, the keypad is still blank and when i remove the cover only 1 of the 5 green LEDS is illuminated.
    any ideas how this can be resolved?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    What panel is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Basil Faulty


    sorry ,forgot to include that . its an Aritech cs350


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Are you referring to the back light LEDs between the buttons?
    Is there anything displayed on the screen?
    I Would try powering the system down .Remove the mains power and the battery.
    Power up on mains only and see if the keypad comes on.If that works then connect the new battery.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 Basil Faulty


    Perfect, worked a treat. Thanks alot.
    i was quoted €100 for a guy to come out to repair it.

    All it took was:

    1. Remove old battery
    2. Remove mains fuse
    3. Insert mains fuse
    4. Insert new battery
    5. Clear alarm by entering password


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Glad you got sorted. If you need anything else you know where to come?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭shaydy


    Hi All

    I've ran into an issue with my Aritech alarm aswell. The house alarm keeps going off and showing 'Fuse' on the handset box. I'm not sure of the model but looking at the manuals the handset appears to match a CH3008 I think. I've no idea where the fuse would be, theres a box under the stairs, another box in the attic and the handset.........

    Any help appreciated


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The fuses are located in the main control panel.
    It looks like this.
    130953.jpg

    The diagram below shows the fuse, their locations & their ratings.


    130954.jpg

    You will need to remove the fuses 1 by 1 and check which one is blown.
    Replace with one of the same rating.
    If it blows a new fuse we will need to look deeper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 516 ✭✭✭shaydy


    Seriously impressed (and grateful) by this response! Many many thanks it couldnt be clearer.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Your welcome.
    Any problem you know where to come.:)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    Moved to HSS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭bazwaldo


    I bought a PS-1270 battery off ebay and the seller has come back to say its out of stock. He's offered a refund, or PS-12120 (which is same height and width but is 98mm in depth and the 1270 is only 65mm so probably won't fit in mainboards box which I'll have to measure) or lastly a "Yuasa Y7 7ah c20" which is the same specifications as the 1270 but is a different brand.

    Anyone got a recommendation? Or if I could get a PS-1270 locally (I'm in Dublin 5 and work in Sandyford) for a good price and sells to public, I could just take the refund and get it myself. That way I don't have to wait on delivery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    A 12v 7 ah battery is common enough to by locally. Check out here for suppliers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 MrFlibble


    I have a similar issue to Shaydy, (so far no alarm sounding) I am happy enough to replace the fuses however do I need to switch the power off before hand and disconnect the battery?

    Sorry I know I 'm being a bit dumb


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Yes,It is advisible to turn off the mains power before opening the panel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 MrFlibble


    Thanks Koolkid

    I figured it was but you never know.

    I have now noticed that all of the PIR's have died, I am asuming this is linked but am I right in thinking this is likely to be the F2 fuse. I am asuming that if it were the mains or the battery fuse the keypad would show as mains fault or battery fault or do I assume too much.

    Also can anyone give me an indication of how long the battery would last if it is the mains fuse that has gone.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    If the battery is dead or disconnected & you turn off the mains the PiRs will die also.
    After you replace the battery & reapply the mains then chase the fuse fault if one still exists.
    The battery should hold the system up for 24 hours with up to 4 activations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    I was changing the battery on my cs350 the other night and something went wrong. I turned off mains power, opened the box at which point the tamper went off, grand so far. However when I went to turn off the alarm the panel flashed 'bad eprom' and went blank. Any ideas? I replaced fuses this morning, well f2,3 and f4 but nothing.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Power it down totally. Turn off the mains & remove the battery. After a minute power it up on the mains first. If the fault is clear then replace the battery.
    Remember there is now live mains on the open panel.
    Close up the panel & disarm if necessary .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭DubOnHoliday


    done, I get the alarms but no power in the keypad, would I be right in thinking a new board is needed?


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Don't give up just yet.
    Do you have a multi meter?
    If so check are you getting 12vdc from the A B terminals at the keypad.
    If not check the RKP Fuse.(F4)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    I have a similar problem and was gratefully pointed towards this thread.

    Battery went dead in the house alarm so bought a new 12v one and the alarm is working and all but panel is reading Mains fault.

    Rang sharp security and they want 300 euro to come out and fix it.

    Anything i can do myself to fix the panel and have the alarm working properly again?

    Thanks for any replies


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    € 300 for a mains fault.???
    Are they wanting to change the panel before they even look at it?
    Check the trip switches and the mains fuse feeding the panel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭raven136


    koolkid wrote: »
    € 300 for a mains fault.???
    Are they wanting to change the panel before they even look at it?
    Check the trip switches and the mains fuse feeding the panel.

    thanks for the tip.Didnt fancy paying 300 quid


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    You welcome. Its places quoting like that that gives others a bad image.
    Did you get it sorted.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    raven136 wrote: »
    I have a similar problem and was gratefully pointed towards this thread.

    Battery went dead in the house alarm so bought a new 12v one and the alarm is working and all but panel is reading Mains fault.

    Rang sharp security and they want 300 euro to come out and fix it.

    Anything i can do myself to fix the panel and have the alarm working properly again?

    Thanks for any replies

    WOW that is some call out fee :eek:

    If you have a meter can you check if there is any mains going to the panel ?
    There is a fuse in the control panel where the mains goes in that could of blown. It could also be a problem with the transformer in the panel if there is no problem with trip switches or fuses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Daggi


    Hi, I am just very new here, I couldn´t find the button "New Thread".

    Can anybody, please, tell me where is the battery located? I took off the plastic cover of the alarm and I don´t see the battery. And it is not on the other side of the electronic desk either.

    Thanks very much for your reply.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    The battery is contained in the control panel that all the cables go back too, not the keypad.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Daggi


    altor wrote: »
    The battery is contained in the control panel that all the cables go back too, not the keypad.

    Hi Altor,

    I did opened it, but I still can´t see the battery. Can you, please, show me somehow or describe how does it look like. I´m attaching the photo.

    Thanks very much!


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    As Altor said in his previous post. The battery is contained in the control panel, not the keypad. The picture you attached is of the keypad.
    The control panel will be a larger box possibly located in a hot press, a utility room or up beside the fuse board.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Daggi


    koolkid wrote: »
    As Altor said in his previous post. The battery is contained in the control panel, not the keypad. The picture you attached is of the keypad.
    The control panel will be a larger box possibly located in a hot press, a utility room or up beside the fuse board.

    Thank you very much Koolkid,

    I have found that box. But as it is already too late, I´ll look at it tomorrow.

    Thanks again for your help. Have a very Merry Christmas and let´s have a Better new year.
    ;)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Ok.
    All the best to you too.
    If you need any more help with it let me know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Daggi wrote: »
    Hi Altor,

    I did opened it, but I still can´t see the battery. Can you, please, show me somehow or describe how does it look like. I´m attaching the photo.

    Thanks very much!

    Good to see you found the control panel, the battery you will need is either a 12V 3.2Amp or 12V 7.2Amp. The 12V 7.2Amp one is the one I would recommend you install. If you looking for one, check out the suppliers list here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Daggi


    koolkid wrote: »
    Ok.
    All the best to you too.
    If you need any more help with it let me know.

    Thanks to both of you - Altor and Koolkid,

    I have exchanged the battery and the alarm is working as before.
    Lucklily I didn´t need to do any reset of the system.

    Thanks again and have a Lovely Christmas and All the Best in new year.

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Daggi


    altor wrote: »
    Good to see you found the control panel, the battery you will need is either a 12V 3.2Amp or 12V 7.2Amp. The 12V 7.2Amp one is the one I would recommend you install. If you looking for one, check out the suppliers list here.

    Thanks to both of you - Altor and Koolkid,

    I have exchanged the battery and the alarm is working as before.
    Lucklily I didn´t need to do any reset of the system.

    Thanks again and have a Lovely Christmas and All the Best in new year.

    wink.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Good to see you got it sorted, if you have any more problems you know where we are.

    Merry Christmas :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 Daggi


    altor wrote: »
    Good to see you got it sorted, if you have any more problems you know where we are.

    Merry Christmas :D

    Cheers!!!
    Will give you a buzz if anything will come up.... ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Lunty


    Re the enclosed - have the low battery indicator on my alarm panel - not particularly DIY minded, but the instructions seem simple enough.

    Will try and source a battery locally - wont have chance to open up the alarm panel in the light before the weekend - to check on battery size / dimensions etc

    There are different spec batteries mention - all 12v - but some mentioned 2.8Amph / some 7.2 - which is correct

    Without seeing the battery - I want to be sure to see if i am getting the correct one - does anyone know the approx dimensions?

    Also I dont have the engineers code - will i need this at any point? I dont want to get half way through and encounter a problem


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The bigger the Amph the longer it will hold up the system in the event of a power cut. Either will fit into CS350 housing. Your best option is to take the old one with you when buying a new one. On some CS350 installations the 7.2 Amph may be a bit tight depending on the routing of the cables.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Lunty wrote: »
    Re the enclosed - have the low battery indicator on my alarm panel - not particularly DIY minded, but the instructions seem simple enough.

    Will try and source a battery locally - wont have chance to open up the alarm panel in the light before the weekend - to check on battery size / dimensions etc

    There are different spec batteries mention - all 12v - but some mentioned 2.8Amph / some 7.2 - which is correct

    Without seeing the battery - I want to be sure to see if i am getting the correct one - does anyone know the approx dimensions?

    Also I dont have the engineers code - will i need this at any point? I dont want to get half way through and encounter a problem

    Before you open the control panel make sure you turn off the mains going to the control panel as there is live mains inside. You should not need the engineer code to do this unless an engineer reset is set up on the alarm. I would get the 12v 7.2amp battery, cables can easily be pushed under the circuit board. Either will work but it is the best one to use with this alarm as it will keep the alarm system going longer in the event of a power failure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Everyone,

    Happy New Year!

    I hope someone here can help me with this problem which I have with my Aritech CS350. The alarm went off at approx. 5.30am Christmas Eve and also at approx. 6.30am Christmas Day (the alarm was reset). The following day, when I returned to the house, I could hear an alarm ringing inside the house. After entering the deactivation code, the display read "Fuse" and the yellow warning light on the display was illuminated.

    I am sure that the fuse is easy to replace. Is it easy to locate (i.e. what does it look like?) and what amp fuse does it take?

    Many thanks for any advice anyone can give me.

    Aoihbinn


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    The fuse is easy enough to replace once you find which one is blown.
    The fuses and thier ratings are shown on the inside of the panel lid.
    If you have a multimeter you can check each fuse.
    If not try to see whats not getting power.
    Keypad is obviously OK.
    Is there a PIR ? That would be on Aux.
    Bells working?
    Bear in mind you have 2 other problems.
    What is activating the alarm? and what is blowing the fuse?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Koolkid,
    Many thanks for your reply, it is really helpful.
    1. The keypad is ok.
    2. There is a PIR. How would I know if that is on AUX?
    3. The bells are working.
    I agree with you that I do have two other problems with the alarm. How would I determine what is activating the alarm and what has blown the fuse?

    Many thanks again for any help you can give.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    Hi Aoibhinn,

    If you walk in front of the pir, does a light come on ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Altor,

    Yes, the light on the PIR does come on.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    It is not that fuse gone. There are 5 fuses for this system.
    1 mains
    2 battery
    3 aux, internal bell
    4 external bell
    5 keypads

    If you try set the alarm does it say low battery ? If not it could be the external bell fuse that is blown.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Aoibhinn


    Hi Altor,

    I got the battery replaced early last summer and it has been working without any problems so far (but I will not rule it out until I check the fuses with the multimeter).

    Many thanks again for your help.

    Kind regards,

    Aoibhinn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭altor


    If you press down arrow twice does this give any indication on what the fault is ?


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