How stuck for news is 'De Leader'?

Vanquished · 25-12-2016 6:20pm

Oh it gets worse!

Written by the man himself. This really is an incredible level of nonsense!

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/228967/limerick-priest-celebrates-christmas-mass-despite-breaking-his-leg.html

Jimmy Garlic · 25-12-2016 6:27pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Please point out a local paper anywhere in the country that does anything different.

The LL doesn't market itself as a local paper though, it sees itself as a regional paper.

Jimmy Garlic · 25-12-2016 6:42pm

Vanquished wrote: »

Oh it gets worse!

Written by the man himself. This really is an incredible level of nonsense!

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/228967/limerick-priest-celebrates-christmas-mass-despite-breaking-his-leg.html

Fr. Macken’s patience finally ran out when one mass goer, confused by the communion wafer he just received, mistook the ritual for Ash Wednesday, placing the wafer on his forehead.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/228967/limerick-priest-celebrates-christmas-mass-despite-breaking-his-leg.html

I am going to write to Pope Francis to ask for special dispensation for priests who break their ankles...they should be allowed marry for eight weeks during recovery

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2016/12/24/nice-of-you-****ers-to-show-up-for-once-points-out-priest-at-midnight-mass/

Hard to tell the difference.

johnnyryan89 · 25-12-2016 9:11pm

Are these actual articles which are actually in the paper or just some online stuff only.

panda100 · 25-12-2016 9:14pm

johnnyryan89 wrote:

Are these actual articles which are actually in the paper or just some online stuff only.

I thought they might be just online but they are actually for the hard copy of the paper!! The article of the priest with the broken ankle is priceless, they must just be taking the piss at this stage.

Mc Love · 26-12-2016 2:10pm

It's starting to remind me of that Catholic Newspaper you'd find in a basket at the back of the church

Shapey Fiend · 28-12-2016 12:40am

Website advertising collapsed a couple of years ago that's why all you see on the pages is clickbait top 10 celebrity stretch mark promoted stories. Revenue goes straight to Facebook and Google. This is why nobody can do journalism unless they're volunteering to do it for free.

Future points to crowd funded, non ad supported media IMO. How well that'll work for local media I don't know. Perhaps sports clubs will donate to have their matches photographed and written about then it'll spread to the arts, political and general coverage once it's gone a while and people miss it.

Aragneer · 03-01-2017 2:41pm

The writing in the Leader is very poor at times. Not talking about the actual articles and their titles - as we all know their quality - but the actual quality of the writing and sentence structure. It actually makes me cringe. It's on par with some of the writers at the Daily Mail.

Obv, some of the journalists are good at what they do, despite working for this paper, but some articles..just wow.

OfTheMarsWongs · 03-01-2017 2:46pm

Asked the same of The Post last week.

Turned out it was one of those fake advertising front pages. Spent far too many seconds wondering why they had two front page articles about a shoe shop's birthday. Haha.

Anyway those fake front pages are pure annoying.

Reputable Rog · 08-01-2017 1:06pm

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230098/fr-tony-o-riordan-it-has-been-a-privilege-to-serve-limerick.html.
I can anticipate the jokes if this goes national.

zulutango · 08-01-2017 1:39pm

Reputable Rog wrote:

. I can anticipate the jokes if this goes national.

I've no doubt they're hoping for it to go national.

Vanquished · 08-01-2017 2:51pm

One of the longest articles I've ever seen posted on the Limerick Leader website. Predictably it's about a priest. They just love giving the Catholic church a platform!

panda100 · 12-01-2017 11:53am

Another slow non-news week for the Leader http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230585/limerick-td-tom-neville-steps-out-with-fair-city-girl-jenny-on-italian-holiday.html

I did lol at this:

Tom Neville, who is more likely to hit headlines for his speeches in the Dáil

Tom Neville has barely spoken in the Dail and the vast majority of his Parliamentary Questions are in relation to private individuals welfare payments. https://www.kildarestreet.com/search/?pid=441&pop=1&p=4

bigpink · 12-01-2017 11:56am

panda100 wrote: »

Another slow non-news week for the Leader http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230585/limerick-td-tom-neville-steps-out-with-fair-city-girl-jenny-on-italian-holiday.html

I did lol at this:

Tom Neville has barely spoken in the Dail and the vast majority of his Parliamentary Questions are in relation to private individuals welfare payments. https://www.kildarestreet.com/search/?pid=441&pop=1&p=4

Hes an awful TD an attention seeker.Wants to be a superstar

Mc Love · 12-01-2017 12:25pm

panda100 wrote: »

Another slow non-news week for the Leader http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230585/limerick-td-tom-neville-steps-out-with-fair-city-girl-jenny-on-italian-holiday.html

I did lol at this:

Tom Neville has barely spoken in the Dail and the vast majority of his Parliamentary Questions are in relation to private individuals welfare payments. https://www.kildarestreet.com/search/?pid=441&pop=1&p=4

Talk about tabloid news!! I'm surprised they accompany the article with some scantily clad pictures.

zulutango · 12-01-2017 12:39pm

This weekend's main headline is a suicide story by Aine Fitzgerald. Aren't the media meant to be reporting on suicide very discreetly and not emblazoning the issue across front pages? Supposedly this kind of reporting can lead to an increase in the number of suicides.

Poxyshamrock · 12-01-2017 12:41pm

zulutango wrote: »

This weekend's main headline is a suicide story by Aine Fitzgerald. Aren't the media meant to be reporting on suicide very discreetly and not emblazoning the issue across front pages? Supposedly this kind of reporting can lead to an increase in the number of suicides.

I don't see why it should be swept under the rug either though.

bigpink · 12-01-2017 12:47pm

Its like the search and rescue facebook giving updates on bodies found maybe families want it private

zulutango · 12-01-2017 12:50pm

Poxyshamrock wrote: »

I don't see why it should be swept under the rug either though.

I think that's fair enough, but we should listen to the experts at all times.

The Leader approach seems to contravene much of this detailed advice from The Samaritans.

http://www.samaritans.org/media-centre/media-guidelines-reporting-suicide/advice-journalists-suicide-reporting-dos-and-donts

Cookiemunster · 12-01-2017 1:28pm

panda100 wrote: »

Another slow non-news week for the Leader http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230585/limerick-td-tom-neville-steps-out-with-fair-city-girl-jenny-on-italian-holiday.html

I did lol at this:

Tom Neville has barely spoken in the Dail and the vast majority of his Parliamentary Questions are in relation to private individuals welfare payments. https://www.kildarestreet.com/search/?pid=441&pop=1&p=4

They actually took this from Wednesdays Indo. It got half a page with loads of pics in the Indo.

vkid · 12-01-2017 2:22pm

Cookiemunster wrote:

They actually took this from Wednesdays Indo. It got half a page with loads of pics in the Indo.

Such a bastion of good journalism for the leader to emulate ;-)

black & white · 12-01-2017 4:24pm

zulutango wrote: »

I think that's fair enough, but we should listen to the experts at all times.

The Leader approach seems to contravene much of this detailed advice from The Samaritans.

http://www.samaritans.org/media-centre/media-guidelines-reporting-suicide/advice-journalists-suicide-reporting-dos-and-donts

Correct, most, if not all reputable news organisations follow Sams guidelines.

panda100 · 13-01-2017 2:16pm

bigpink wrote:

Its like the search and rescue facebook giving updates on bodies found maybe families want it private

I find their, and Limerick Suicide Watch, 'updates' on social media abhorrent. Anyone working with vulnerable people or with any insight into supporting those in these difficult situations would think their updates are completely inappropriate.

iguana · 13-01-2017 2:54pm

panda100 wrote: »

I find their, and Limerick Suicide Watch, 'updates' on social media abhorrent. Anyone working with vulnerable people or with any insight into supporting those in these difficult situations would think their updates are completely inappropriate.

What I can't stand is when I hear the S&R helicopters fly overhead and within 10 minutes my newsfeed is full of comments about it. It's like concern porn (and possibly a stealth brag that you live near the river

) without thought for the fact your status update might actually concern a loved one of one of your friends.

Reputable Rog · 13-01-2017 3:27pm

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230735/thank-you-from-the-pope-to-limerick-woman-emily-clarke.html
Mother of God.

bazz26 · 13-01-2017 4:05pm

Vanquished · 13-01-2017 4:18pm

Reputable Rog wrote: »

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/230735/thank-you-from-the-pope-to-limerick-woman-emily-clarke.html
Mother of God.

That's just nauseating!

The perfect combination of a woman desperate to get her face in the newspaper and that paper being absolutely desperate to publish as much catholic orientated material as possible!

The Leader is pretty much toilet paper at this stage.

zulutango · 13-01-2017 4:40pm

It's like a Catholic newsletter.

Has there been any stories lately that are actually critical or even questioning of the catholic church?

I am still not sure if it's a case of trying to promote the church or a recognition that this kind of rubbish sells newspapers.

Jimmy Garlic · 20-01-2017 7:43pm

Now, Emily is willing to front a campaign to bring Pope Francis to Limerick, and would love to perform the ballad Papa Francis for him if he does decide to come.

Completely bonkers.

OfTheMarsWongs · 26-01-2017 5:08pm

Is a whole article really necessary?

Bird's bright idea to nest in Limerick traffic light

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/232538/bird-s-bright-idea-to-nest-in-limerick-traffic-light.html

panda100 · 26-01-2017 5:36pm

OfTheMarsWongs wrote: »

Is a whole article really necessary?

Who could deprive Limerick of all these 'quacking' puns from our esteemed Limerick Leader journalists :rolleyes:

It's not such a ‘bird-brained’ idea as it is getting free heat and light courtesy of Limerick City and County Council. It could be an interesting excuse in court if a motorist ‘flew’ through a red light but the judge would hardly ‘swallow’ it.

As the nest is overflowing onto the red light you may want to ‘duck’ if you pass it.

The individuals who sent in the pictures asked that the exact location not be divulged for fear of vandalism or anybody ‘robin' it but it is in the Castletroy area.

It shouldn't stop ‘tweets’ from ‘flying in’ from all over the county.

Poxyshamrock · 27-01-2017 1:44pm

What's worse is that the Limerick Post had this story first.

OfTheMarsWongs · 02-02-2017 5:20pm

Another classic!

Why does The Leader think people would be offended by this ad? The 'cleaning up ****e' line?

I really need to unfollow them on FB ðŸ˜†

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/233621/limerick-farmer-isn-t-selling-a-pig-in-a-poke-with-unique-job-advert.html#.WJNZ7UGDOOc.facebook

Jofspring · 02-02-2017 5:23pm

The articles are gone so bad I'm actually raging I clicked on that link and gave them the extra hit on their page.

Harambe · 03-02-2017 1:03am

I blocked them on Facebook a few days ago, sick of the sight of them.

Brennans Row · 26-05-2017 11:24pm

Nope, it wasn't Vincent Browne that exposed this carry on,

Nor the Irish Times, or the Sunday Business Post or the rest of the Dublin based media.

But our so called parochial "De Leader" had the balls to do it. :cool: (RTÉ Investigates: Universities Unchallenged)

Berty · 27-05-2017 7:09am

Yeah but to be fair the Limerick Leader has a vendetta against the University going back a few years. Bound to dig something up newsworthy eventually.

I did watch expose on the TV the other night and it's shocking to see their attitudes to the PAC like creating companies and appointing staff to it so they can breach the pay cap and also refuse to declare the accounts of the company because they're outside of the remit of the PAC.

NUIG seems to be a disaster in that respect.

AlanOB · 27-05-2017 12:58pm

A testament to the strong editorship of Alan English, who had the courage to stick to his guns even when he was personally pursued by the University.

Fair play to him. The Leader was lucky to have a man of his caliber at the helm.

CatFromHue · 27-05-2017 2:07pm

Berty wrote: »

Yeah but to be fair the Limerick Leader has a vendetta against the University going back a few years.

What's that all about?

zulutango · 27-05-2017 2:57pm

The Leader deserves credit for pursuing the UL story. Let's hope they pursue other leads with such vigour in future.

Brennans Row · 27-05-2017 4:00pm

Berty wrote: »

Yeah but to be fair the Limerick Leader has a vendetta against the University going back a few years.

Austerity has for years, hit everybody hard in this country and it's sickening to read for example of a €100,000 order placed by UL for watches and pens, when at the same time elderly people are spending 24 hours on an UL Hospital trolley before being admitted.

The jeweler who received the order happens to be a member of UL governing body.

Comhrá · 27-05-2017 5:48pm

Brennans Row wrote: »

Austerity has for years, hit everybody hard in this country and it's sickening to read for example of a ?100,000 order placed by UL for watches and pens, when at the same time elderly people are spending 24 hours on an UL Hospital trolley before being admitted.

The jeweler who received the order happens to be a member of UL governing body.

Doesn't that just sum up how business is done in Ireland, whether it's our institutions like the Gardai, the banks, the big charities, our planning authorities and so on. Just check the Ryan report, the Moriarty Tribunal, the Flood Tribunal, The Morris Tribunal - and these are only the ones that were carried out. Many many more wrongdoings were covered up successfully.

Yeah, a grand little nation of fiddlers, crooks & chancers.....and that's the people in charge.

AlanOB · 27-05-2017 7:30pm

zulutango wrote: »

The Leader deserves credit for pursuing the UL story. Let's hope they pursue other leads with such vigour in future.

Highly unlikely, unfortunately, but, as you say, credit where it was due.

enfant terrible · 27-05-2017 10:27pm

Well done Limerick Leader standing up to a powerful bully, brave thing to do against a state funded entity.

The arrogance of the UL leadership is astounding although I supposed they viewed the leader as a small backward local paper who would fold against they're financial pressure.

Berty · 27-05-2017 11:16pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

What's that all about?

First link I could find

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/207719/UL-withdraws-legal-action-against-the.html

You can figure why the paper doesn't really get on with UL

Vanquished · 28-05-2017 3:54pm

Berty wrote: »

First link I could find

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/207719/UL-withdraws-legal-action-against-the.html

You can figure why the paper doesn't really get on with UL

Hardly evidence of a "vendetta". The Leader published what were proven to be factual and accurate details of irregularities and malpractice in UL. The University were obviously angry that these details were uncovered and released in to the public domain.

The dismissal and denial of the reports by UL were shown to be complete and utter lies. Their stance changed when the investigations unit in RTE sent them details of the evidence they had uncovered and intended to broadcast in a special programme. Having ruled out co-operating with an independent enquiry. They now have been left with no other option. Don Barry is seriously tainted by this whole episode.

Reputable Rog · 10-06-2017 8:08am

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/254367/munster-final-of-religion-limerick-novena-s-preparation-for-pope-francis.html

Cookiemunster · 10-06-2017 9:07am

Reputable Rog wrote: »

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/home/254367/munster-final-of-religion-limerick-novena-s-preparation-for-pope-francis.html

So what? It's a local paper and believe it or not the novena is still a pretty big deal for quite a lot of people.
I honestly don't know what people are expecting. It's no different to any other local paper in the country.

Reputable Rog · 10-06-2017 2:25pm

Cookiemunster wrote: »

So what? It's a local paper and believe it or not the novena is still a pretty big deal for quite a lot of people.
I honestly don't know what people are expecting. It's no different to any other local paper in the country.

And if I'd posted a link to an article with actual news you'd have come back with your usual criticism.
That you Eugene?

Cookiemunster · 10-06-2017 2:30pm

Reputable Rog wrote: »

And if I'd posted a link to an article with actual news you'd have come back with your usual criticism.
That you Eugene?

I have no time for the leader or their editorial choices, but I do understand what a local paper is and what a local interest story is.

How stuck for news is 'De Leader'?

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