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View Poll Results: Would you support big change in RTE?
No, Things are fine the way they are 55 3.21%
Yes, Reduce salaries of presenters 476 27.80%
Yes, Reduce the number of channels, services, staff as well as reduce salaries of presenters 696 40.65%
Scrap RTE altogether 485 28.33%
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17-09-2019, 23:16   #2506
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Not much different to now then!!
Sounds exactly like the Summer schedule.
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18-09-2019, 06:58   #2507
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RTE are a commercial entity, who given the challenges do make a fair bit of money.
They don't make money, haven't you seen the news? Despite having the licence fee that should cover any shortfall in profits, they're still millions short.
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Does your chipper force you to eat their food and threaten you with jail if you dont pay for their **** food even if you dont eat it?
Sorry who exactly is forcing you to have equipment capable of receiving RTE?

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They don't make money, haven't you seen the news?
They do, stop spoofing. They earn around 150m commercially, which is a decent chunk given the challenges of the type of medium and what they have to compete with.

What they don't do is earn enough money to cover their outgoings and that is the problem.
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Sorry who exactly is forcing you to have equipment capable of receiving RTE?



They do, stop spoofing. They earn around 150m commercially, which is a decent chunk given the challenges of the type of medium and what they have to compete with.

What they don't do is earn enough money to cover their outgoings and that is the problem.

They get 220 million handed to them.
Still can't balance the books.
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They get 220 million handed to them.
Still can't balance the books.
Yeah I alluded to that in the post you quoted, it was in the last line.

That still doesn't negate the fact that commercially they earn money, the poster I quoted claimed they didn't.
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18-09-2019, 09:40   #2511
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Giving them more money would be just throwing good money after bad.

We know from past experience, the extra money wouldn't be used to fund extra or more quality Irish programs.

It would be used to:
1. Give Darcy, Tubridy, Finucane et all massive pay increases
2. Help Amy Huberman relaunch her career for the nth time.
3. Pay contractors/former RTE employees
4. Used to give huge payoffs to RTE employees who are then hired back as contractors

How many times now have they laid off people and we were told this will definitely solve all problems. And yet the finances continue to get worse. The example of extraordinary events is one example.

Badly run basketcase which deserves no more money.
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If you want to see just how successful RTE is, just think of the following: how many hit shows can you name, which they've made and nurtured, which have penetrated the British market? I mean it's a massive tv market with a shared language right on our doorstep. If RTE really is doing a great job and helping the Irish entertainment industry, then this should be a doddle... *cough*
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They do, stop spoofing. They earn around 150m commercially, which is a decent chunk given the challenges of the type of medium and what they have to compete with.

What they don't do is earn enough money to cover their outgoings and that is the problem.
The money they earn, plus the licence money they get is less than they spend, before Depreciation and interest. They are not making money, they are losing it. Please refrain from further spoofing. Their commercial income is less than half their costs (before special events).

If I buy something for two euro then sell it for one euro, I haven't made a euro like in your logic, I've lost a euro.
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The money they earn
So they do earn commercial revenue.

Thank God we reached consensus on that so.
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With the amount of rights to sporting events theyve lost over the last few years, surely they should have a massive cost surplus in that area, never gets mentioned.
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So they do earn commercial revenue.

Thank God we reached consensus on that so.
But they spend more money on it than they earn. This is a complete commercial failure. Your attitude to success seems to be similar to theirs.
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They don't make money, haven't you seen the news? Despite having the licence fee that should cover any shortfall in profits, they're still millions short.
Lets not forget how much they earn from the competitions they seem to run on every single show.

They won't disclose it because it's 'commercially sensitive'

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For your chance to win a 3 night trip to NYC and $500 spending money, all you have to do is tell us;

Who recently won their 5th All Ireland Football Championship in a row?

Is it;
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Calls cost €1 and don't forget to ask the bill payers permission


The prize might cost them €2,000 all in, but I guarantee they pull in at least 10-15 times that much from the clever bucks that "I know this one"

Over the course of a year, with the competitions run on the Late Late, the Daily Show, the football and wherever else they run them, they're surely pulling in north of €5m per year.
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Over the course of a year, with the competitions run on the Late Late, the Daily Show, the football and wherever else they run them, they're surely pulling in north of €5m per year.
I don't really see the problem, how they are any different to the likes of Virgin, Channel 4 or ITV?

Their remit is to earn money to offset costs.

If it is pulling in circa 5 million a year, surely that is a good thing, no?
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I don't really see the problem, how they are any different to the likes of Virgin, Channel 4 or ITV?

Their remit is to earn money to offset costs.

If it is pulling in circa 5 million a year, surely that is a good thing, no?
ITV made a massive profit this year. A bad comparison.

These companies are commercial entities who know how to make money in good times and bad by offering TV content that people want to watch.

RTE should try it sometime.

Its not as if RTE programs are hugely expensive to produce. Most of them are based on guests from the canteen or radio shows like Liveline.

Its mystifying why RTE cannot turn a profit.
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marty whelan doesnt want his "lovely livelihood" taken away

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RTÉ is striving to make the cutbacks as it faces unprecedented financial difficulties and Marty doesn’t want Lyric FM, on which he presents Marty in the Morning, to fall victim to the cutbacks.

Speaking to EVOKE he said: ‘I would always be concerned about anything that would take away my lovely livelihood.’
https://evoke.ie/2019/09/17/showbiz/...rned-lyric-fms

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