Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

Squidgy Black · 17-05-2019 9:19am

I've brought my younger cousins to plenty of games in the RDS/Aviva, between 3-8 and they've loved it. They watch the games on TV and were in awe at seeing the stadium and the game being played in front of them.

In fact there was a young lad around 4/5 behind us in the Aviva during the AIs, and he was by far the most engaged fan in the South Stand, and knew more about the players and what was going on than 90% of the adults around him.

It's all relative, if you bring a kid who has no interest in the game, of course they'll get bored.

swiwi_ · 17-05-2019 9:23am

Hmmm. Some kids like rugby, some don't. You'd swear they belong to the race of Homo sapiens.

I'd be in favour of letting parents decide themselves whether their child is or is not up to watching a game of rugby live.

On the other, should Leinster lose, some kids might need counselling for PTSD.

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 9:24am

swiwi_ wrote: »

Hmmm. Some kids like rugby, some don't. You'd swear they belong to the race of Homo sapiens.

I'd be in favour of letting parents decide themselves whether their child is or is not up to watching a game of rugby live.

On the other, should Leinster lose, some kids might need counselling for PTSD.

Of course it is up to the parent....but in reality would this be even discussed a few years ago?

I blame Amy Huberman for it all.....

OldRio · 17-05-2019 9:29am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You talking to much sense

I have a 2,4 and 6 year old. I would never even entertain the idea of bringing them to a match. After 5 mins they would be bored and trying to run up and down the stand. Not hugely safe with people walking around.....

Not hugely fair on the rest of the public trying to watch a game and a 3 year old running around your feet....expect them also to spend entire match kicking the seat in front of them out of pure boredom

It is not fair on them.....first and foremost......but also it is not fair on other fans trying to go out and enjoy the game......

I know I come from a different generation but my children all went to games from a very early age. We just didn't allow them to run around or kick seats. We called it parental control.

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 9:33am

OldRio wrote: »

I know I come from a different generation but my children all went to games from a very early age. We just didn't allow them to run around or kick seats. We called it parental control.

It's your own decision. If I can afford a ticket to a match then I can afford to pay for a baby sitter for 2 hours so the kids get to enjoy the 2 hours and I get to enjoy my 2 hours. Once they are older then I will be relegated to the family seats and they can all join me.

No point dragging a kid along and they don't enjoy it, you don't enjoy it and everyone around you doesn't either.

That is what I call parental skills

salmocab · 17-05-2019 9:35am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It's your own decision. If I can afford a ticket to a match then I can afford to pay for a baby sitter for 2 hours so the kids get to enjoy the 2 hours and I get to enjoy my 2 hours. Once they are older then I will be relegated to the family seats and they can all join me.

No point dragging a kid along and they don't enjoy it, you don't enjoy it and everyone around you doesn't either.

That is what I call parental skills

2 hours? You must live on angelsea road. You sure can afford that baby sitter.

troyzer · 17-05-2019 9:36am

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Shefwedfan wrote: »

You talking to much sense

Not hugely fair on the rest of the public trying to watch a game and a 3 year old running around your feet....expect them also to spend entire match kicking the seat in front of them out of pure boredom

It is not fair on them.....first and foremost......but also it is not fair on other fans trying to go out and enjoy the game......

True foor the RDS all right.
They would be fine at the likes of Thomond though, where running up and down tge empty rows wont disturb anyone.

Zing!

nannerby · 17-05-2019 9:41am

I have four kids started bringing them to matches when they were 7/8 they really enjoy it the RDS is a great place for a family day out the Aviva not so much.

AdamD · 17-05-2019 9:42am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It's your own decision. If I can afford a ticket to a match then I can afford to pay for a baby sitter for 2 hours so the kids get to enjoy the 2 hours and I get to enjoy my 2 hours. Once they are older then I will be relegated to the family seats and they can all join me.

No point dragging a kid along and they don't enjoy it, you don't enjoy it and everyone around you doesn't either.

That is what I call parental skills

Could you be any more condescending?

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 9:45am

nannerby wrote: »

I have four kids started bringing them to matches when they were 7/8 they really enjoy it the RDS is a great place for a family day out the Aviva not so much.

7/8 is a totally different case....the person is talking about a 3 year old

Zzippy · 17-05-2019 9:50am

Squidgy Black wrote: »

In fact there was a young lad around 4/5 behind us in the Aviva during the AIs, and he was by far the most engaged fan in the South Stand, and knew more about the players and what was going on than 90% of the adults around him.

.

That was actually Michael Lowry. Plays for Ulster. Looks younger alright...

aloooof · 17-05-2019 9:50am

In the interests of trying to steer this thread back on track, can well agree the Munster kids would be way more passionate than the Leinster kids?

troyzer · 17-05-2019 9:53am

aloooof wrote: »

In the interests of trying to steer this thread back on track, can well agree the Munster kids would be way more passionate than the Leinster kids?

They're certainly more pashunate

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 9:54am

aloooof wrote: »

In the interests of trying to steer this thread back on track, can well agree the Munster kids would be way more passionate than the Leinster kids?

Well the Munster kids would have more bite in them, similar to Alun Wyn Jones.....

I do remember last time I was in Thomond for a game, kids all along street giving us the middle finger as we drove past.....:p:p:p:p:p

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 10:34am

So back to rugby...

Leinster are 8.5 point favourites for this pre-team announcement

Very hard to see whether this could be a comfortable game or tight game.

Teams in 90 minutes.

OldRio · 17-05-2019 10:43am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It's your own decision. If I can afford a ticket to a match then I can afford to pay for a baby sitter for 2 hours so the kids get to enjoy the 2 hours and I get to enjoy my 2 hours. Once they are older then I will be relegated to the family seats and they can all join me.

No point dragging a kid along and they don't enjoy it, you don't enjoy it and everyone around you doesn't either.

That is what I call parental skills

Parentel skills? Off loading your children onto others? Whilst you enjoy yourself. OK.

Former Former · 17-05-2019 10:45am

Three big unknowns here:

1. How many of the Leinster first choice XV are able to play.
2. What physical shape they're in.
3. Whether last week will act as extra motivation or whether they couldn't give a shyte about the Pro14

Munster have nearly a full deck and should be
absolutely champing at the bit to get stuck in.

Very hard to call.

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 10:46am

Will be interesting to see the team, hopefully a good few of the Leinster team given another run to get over the loss against Saries

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 10:49am

OldRio wrote: »

Parentel skills? Off loading your children onto others? Whilst you enjoy yourself. OK.

Yes, for mental health it is always good for both parents to have time off....

awec · 17-05-2019 10:50am

Barring some bizarre selection I expect Leinster to win this, probably with a relatively comfortable final score. Leinster by 10+ for me.

I just don't see Munster suddenly finding some moves in the backs, and I don't expect them to beat Leinster in the pack.

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 10:51am

Former Former wrote: »

Three big unknowns here:

1. How many of the Leinster first choice XV are able to play.
2. What physical shape they're in.
3. Whether last week will act as extra motivation or whether they couldn't give a shyte about the Pro14

Munster have nearly a full deck and should be
absolutely champing at the bit to get stuck in.

Very hard to call.

It's certainly one of those games where if Leinster ran away with it you wouldnt be surprised. But equally the storyline wouldn't be outlandish if Munster outplayed Leinster after last week.

I do think Leinster will be desperate to win the Pro14 but as you said their physical condition and mentality could be low after last week.

Different teams sure, but we saw how Ireland were affected by a bad loss against England and had a rough few weeks afterwards.

I think Leinster will win though and I'd love a Leinster v Ulster final; there would be a great narrative to that.

accensi0n · 17-05-2019 10:57am

I'm surprised some people are so confident in a Leinster win. Pretty worried myself, think the team will be pretty deflated from last week.

dregin · 17-05-2019 11:50am

aloooof wrote: »

In the interests of trying to steer this thread back on track, can well agree the Munster kids would be way more passionate than the Leinster kids?

aloooof · 17-05-2019 11:52am

dregin wrote: »

Are you questioning my teammates Munster supporting kids??

dregin · 17-05-2019 11:53am

accensi0n wrote: »

I'm surprised some people are so confident in a Leinster win. Pretty worried myself, think the team will be pretty deflated from last week.

I'll be very annoyed if we put out our premium players against this Munster side. The average age of the Leinster 23 shouldn't be above 22. This is the pre-final matinee show for the children. Nothing else.

:pac:

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 11:56am

https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/status/1129339528076939264?s=19

Healy
Cronin
Furlong
Toner
Ryan
Ruddock
VDF
Conan
McGrath
Byrne
Lowe
Henshaw
Ringrose
D. Kearney
Larmour

B. Byrne
E. Byrne
Porter
Fardy
Deegan
McCarthy
Sexton
ROL

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 11:59am

Strong team....

Larmour at 15.....great.......

Clegg · 17-05-2019 12:00pm

Team in list form for those that can't see the tweet.

Van Der Terminator straight into the starting 15!

15. Jordan Larmour (37)
14. Dave Kearney (135)
13. Garry Ringrose (63)
12. Robbie Henshaw (35)
11. James Lowe (28)
10. Ross Byrne (69)
9. Luke McGrath (111)
1. Cian Healy (206)
2. Seán Cronin (171)
3. Tadhg Furlong (100)
4. Devin Toner (230)
5. James Ryan (29)
6. Rhys Ruddock (159) CAPTAIN
7. Josh van der Flier (71)
8. Jack Conan (87)

16. Bryan Byrne (40)
17. Ed Byrne (43)
18. Andrew Porter (51)
19. Scott Fardy (42)
20. Max Deegan (44)
21. Nick McCarthy (34)
22. Johnny Sexton (158)
23. Rory O’Loughlin (60)

crisco10 · 17-05-2019 12:00pm

Johnny on the bench, always a bit of a random one!

Great to see JdF back, backrow looks nicely balanced with him there.

Squidgy Black · 17-05-2019 12:00pm

Sexton on the bench. What a world we live in.

Sabre0001 · 17-05-2019 12:01pm

Munster: Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Joey Carbery, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Tadhg Beirne; Peter O’Mahony (C), CJ Stander, Arno Botha.

Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, Liam O’Connor, Stephen Archer, Billy Holland, Jack O’Donoghue, Alby Mathewson, JJ Hanrahan, Dan Goggin.

aloooof · 17-05-2019 12:03pm

Stander at 7 and JOD on the bench, and no Cloete. Looks like we're going beefy for this one.

Clegg · 17-05-2019 12:07pm

It's a very strong Leinster bench. Fardy, Porter and Deegan will bring a lot of impact. I also thought we'd see JGP this week. More than happy to have Lowe start though.

Kenny B · 17-05-2019 12:08pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Well the Munster kids would have more bite in them, similar to Alun Wyn Jones.....

I do remember last time I was in Thomond for a game, kids all along street giving us the middle finger as we drove past.....:p:p:p:p:p

Going by the muck you're spouting, the kids judged you right,

If Leinster hit hard for the first 10 mins they'll win handy, if they give Munster a sniff anything is possible, but it's hard to see past Leinster with their ability to notch the Intensity dial up to 11 at certain moments of games, they did it to Saracens for periods last week but the Saracens dial goes up to 12.

kingofthekong · 17-05-2019 12:10pm

VDF isnt human I just really hope he hasnt rushed himself back and does further damage

Former Former · 17-05-2019 12:10pm

Munster: Mike Haley; Andrew Conway, Chris Farrell, Rory Scannell, Keith Earls; Joey Carbery, Conor Murray; Dave Kilcoyne, Niall Scannell, John Ryan; Jean Kleyn, Tadhg Beirne; Peter O’Mahony (C), CJ Stander, Arno Botha.

Replacements: Kevin O’Byrne, Liam O’Connor, Stephen Archer, Billy Holland, Jack O’Donoghue, Alby Mathewson, JJ Hanrahan, Dan Goggin.

Clegg · 17-05-2019 12:16pm

No RDS farewell for SoB either. Shame that.

aloooof · 17-05-2019 12:21pm

dregin wrote: »

I'll be very annoyed if we put out our premium players against this Munster side. The average age of the Leinster 23 shouldn't be above 22. This is the pre-final matinee show for the children. Nothing else.

:pac:

The broadway run was last weekend. The reviews didn't go well.

Squidgy Black · 17-05-2019 12:22pm

Clegg wrote: »

No RDS farewell for SoB either. Shame that.

Surprised at that, but a good sign for Deegan that he got the bench spot for the CC Final and has retained it for the Pro14 final over SOB.

Also the CC final may have been Rob Kearney's last game in blue if he doesn't re-sign.

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 12:26pm

Sexton benched in case he loses his mind again?

Clegg · 17-05-2019 12:30pm

Lots of power in that Munster pack. Wonder if they're trying to Saracens us?

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 12:31pm

Leinster now 7 point favourites after teams announced.

Former Former · 17-05-2019 12:35pm

Clegg wrote: »

It's a very strong Leinster bench. Fardy, Porter and Deegan will bring a lot of impact. I also thought we'd see JGP this week. More than happy to have Lowe start though.

Might not have shaken off his injury, but given that Rob Kearney, Adam Byrne, Tomane and Barry Daly are all injured and McFadden is suspended, we literally have no-one else to pick in the back three, Lowe had to play.

kuang1 · 17-05-2019 12:44pm

Former Former wrote: »

Might not have shaken off his injury, but given that Rob Kearney, Adam Byrne, Tomane and Barry Daly are all injured and McFadden is suspended, we literally have no-one else to pick in the back three, Lowe had to play.

Do we know if SOB is dropped rather than injured?
(The 3rd option of "rested" doesn't apply at this stage of the season surely?)

Also this can't do his chances of making the WC squad any good.

Jump_In_Jack · 17-05-2019 12:44pm

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Surprised at that, but a good sign for Deegan that he got the bench spot for the CC Final and has retained it for the Pro14 final over SOB.

Also the CC final may have been Rob Kearney's last game in blue if he doesn't re-sign.

This is the semi-final.

Squidgy Black · 17-05-2019 12:47pm

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

This is the semi-final.

Typo

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 12:47pm

kuang1 wrote: »

Do we know if SOB is dropped rather than injured?
(The 3rd option of "rested" doesn't apply at this stage of the season surely?)

Also this can't do his chances of making the WC squad any good.

Dropped I think. No mention of injury. With VDF back its likely a case of 'better players available'.

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 12:52pm

Kenny B wrote: »

Going by the muck you're spouting, the kids judged you right,

Some anger issues?

Deep breaths, it will be ok.....

Shefwedfan · 17-05-2019 12:53pm

kuang1 wrote: »

Do we know if SOB is dropped rather than injured?
(The 3rd option of "rested" doesn't apply at this stage of the season surely?)

Also this can't do his chances of making the WC squad any good.

The bang on the back was bad and he didn't look right after it

Also a large amount of work done, he aint getting any younger

Exclamation Marc · 17-05-2019 12:56pm

Amazing to think that it will be Sextons first league game since the last Munster game if he comes on.

Makes sense when you figure in the 6N etc but surprised it's been five months!

Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

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