Far Cry 5

dreamers75 · 26-03-2018 9:30am

Kirby wrote: »

For PC? I'd love that if its going. Cheers.

Send it to you after work around 3pm, Ubi blocked in here.

markcahill1985 · 26-03-2018 10:43am

Zero-Cool wrote:

Anyone get a Smyths preorder collection before and know when they send the text out? Any chance of a shnakey Monday collection?

Would be great. Have they debited the cash from you yet?

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 11:07am

markcahill1985 wrote: »

Would be great. Have they debited the cash from you yet?

Nope not yet, hope I can pick it up in the morning and there isn't a delay.

The Specialist · 26-03-2018 11:32am

Eurogamer yet again with a review that spends more time pondering why the game isn't a political social statement, rather than you know, just an enjoyable game. :rolleyes: That's it for me now anyway, after this and the KCD review, Eurogamer can go **** itself hard with it's PC notions.

Exclamation Marc · 26-03-2018 11:38am

The Specialist wrote: »

Eurogamer yet again with a review that spends more time pondering why the game isn't a political social statement, rather than you know, just an enjoyable game. :rolleyes: That's it for me now anyway, after this and the KCD review, Eurogamer can go **** itself hard with it's PC notions.

I was disappointed with the Eurogamer review as I was expecting a better "score". Then I read the review and as you said, it seems to be flooring it's opinion on the game because it's not challenging societal issues as they are today. Which is a) irrelevant for a game when it never claimed to and b) totally misguided as the game was essentially developed and designed pre-Trump and pre-todays issues.

Very disappointed.

Other reviews (thanks VG247)

The VG247 review – The best the series has been since 2012
Eurogamer – No score
The Guardian – 3/5
USgamer – 4.5/5
Destructoid – 7.5
GamesBeat – 85/100
GamesRadar+ – 4/5
Game Informer – 7.5
GameSpot – 9
Metro – 8
IGN – 8.9
Press Start – 9
Worth Playing – 8.5
Wccftech – 9.1
CGMagazine – 9
We Got This Covered – 4.5/5
Windows Central – 5/5
COGconnected – 90/100
Hobby Consolas [Spanish] – 93/100
VGN [Italian]- 9.2

The Specialist · 26-03-2018 11:41am

Exclamation Marc wrote: »

I was disappointed with the Eurogamer review as I was expecting a better "score". Then I read the review and as you said, it seems to be flooring it's opinion on the game because it's not challenging societal issues as they are today. Which is a) irrelevant for a game when it never claimed to and b) totally misguided as the game was essentially developed and designed pre-Trump and pre-todays issues.

Very disappointed.

Other reviews (thanks VG247)

The VG247 review – The best the series has been since 2012
Eurogamer – No score
The Guardian – 3/5
USgamer – 4.5/5
Destructoid – 7.5
GamesBeat – 85/100
GamesRadar+ – 4/5
Game Informer – 7.5
GameSpot – 9
Metro – 8
IGN – 8.9
Press Start – 9
Worth Playing – 8.5
Wccftech – 9.1
CGMagazine – 9
We Got This Covered – 4.5/5
Windows Central – 5/5
COGconnected – 90/100
Hobby Consolas [Spanish] – 93/100
VGN [Italian]- 9.2

Yeah this seems to be the latest EG craze now - go against the general consensus while also showing how "woke" they are, expecting games to make some sort of statement while ignoring the most basic question to be asked - is it fun?

They are turning in to another Kotaku and it's a shame really but if that's the direction they want to go, count me out of ever looking to them for opinion again.

Grayditch · 26-03-2018 11:58am

Yeah it's getting good reviews alright. They're pretty much all saying the narrative is muddled and loses focus but that the satire is good.

I might try flying through the single player, but maybe skipping some of the side missions and activities that bog Ubisoft games down a bit.

26-03-2018 12:20pm

The Specialist wrote: »

Yeah this seems to be the latest EG craze now - go against the general consensus while also showing how "woke" they are, expecting games to make some sort of statement while ignoring the most basic question to be asked - is it fun?

They are turning in to another Kotaku and it's a shame really but if that's the direction they want to go, count me out of ever looking to them for opinion again.

They don't "expect" it to make a statement. They are saying it is trying to make a statement and fails. It's also quite clear that this area of review is related to the story and delves into details of the gameplay and also comes to the conclusion that it is boring. Anyone like me who bought Far Cry 4 and absolutely hated it - will not be surprised.

jones · 26-03-2018 12:24pm

Anyone hear anything from smyths yet?

The Specialist · 26-03-2018 12:28pm

Deleted User wrote: »

They don't "expect" it to make a statement. They are saying it is trying to make a statement and fails. It's also quite clear that this area of review is related to the story and delves into details of the gameplay and also comes to the conclusion that it is boring. Anyone like me who bought Far Cry 4 and absolutely hated it - will not be surprised.

Anybody with an actual interest in the gameplay of it should avoid Eurogamer - strange isn't it how they are the only naysayers in a long list of reviews? I hated FC4 as well but I cannot wait for this, everything I have seen looks to be the furthest from "boring" possible.

Edit: Just as a side point, does anyone have recommendations for a site that actually reviews the games & gameplay minus the social/political bull****? Seems to be becoming rare these days.

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 12:48pm

Yeah I hated far cry 4 so was weary of this the whole time but anything I've seen just sounds like a fun game. My biggest concern was doing enough resistance stuff to get a lieutenant out, that was still grindy in Mafia 3 but haven't read one had thing about this system yet.

Wonda-Boy · 26-03-2018 12:50pm

I have never got a game early from smyths...have it pre ordered but I just pick it up the minute they open. I aint expecting much from the game but if it fills a gap until god of war comes out. I will just play it on hard and piss around in co-op so happy days.

Just as long as its better then Ghost Recon I be happy out.

Kiith · 26-03-2018 12:58pm

eurogamer wrote:

There's little sustained investigation of wider social factors, like the overlap between militant Christian extremism and white supremacy or sexism - indeed, the game generally ducks such questions. The cult's ranks are stocked with a mixture of races and genders, in what feels like a careful sanitising of the subject matter.

Jesus ****ing christ. Game has only white people in an accurate representation of 15th centuary Bohemia, and it's disgraceful that there are only white people. Have a mix of races in this, and it's careful sanitising of the issue.

They really do some ****ty reviews.

gimli2112 · 26-03-2018 1:03pm

Think 'll buy this digitally when I go home. Been saying I'd wait until it comes down in price but I'm just going to buy it when drinking anyway, may as well pull the trigger. I'll pre-order GOW while I'm at it.

wes · 26-03-2018 1:24pm

Kiith wrote: »

Jesus ****ing christ. Game has only white people in an accurate representation of 15th centuary Bohemia, and it's disgraceful that there are only white people. Have a mix of races in this, and it's careful sanitising of the issue.

They really do some ****ty reviews.

Strange criticism, while there have been white supremacist Christian cults, there have also been cults that didn't give a **** about race. What Ubisoft done here is perfectly reasonable from what i have seen so far.

Also, you will find some people who aren't white, will aid and abet White supremacists e.g. the Nation of Islam was pretty friendly with the KKK, as they both had the same end goal of ethno states. There are even some examples in the Trump admin, and elsewhere.

26-03-2018 1:35pm

It's really good fun

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 1:41pm

Read a random comment online that sounded serious, saying they were disappointed that ubi is avoiding issues from what they read in Eurogamer. I think we just live in an age where the cool thing to do is hate or moan about things and be offended by everything. That part of EG posted above is absolutely ridiculous. I stopped following their pages since their ME Andromeda coverage. Their Kingdom Come review was awful ****e as well. I don't like the term snowflake, moany bastards suit these people better.

weiland79 · 26-03-2018 1:43pm

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

I have never got a game early from smyths...have it pre ordered but I just pick it up the minute they open. I aint expecting much from the game but if it fills a gap until god of war comes out. I will just play it on hard and piss around in co-op so happy days.

Just as long as its better then Ghost Recon I be happy out.

I could have written this post.

The Specialist · 26-03-2018 1:45pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Read a random comment online that sounded serious, saying they were disappointed that ubi is avoiding issues from what they read in Eurogamer. I think we just live in an age where the cool thing to do is hate or moan about things and be offended by everything. That part of EG posted above is absolutely ridiculous. I stopped following their pages since their ME Andromeda coverage. Their Kingdom Come review was awful ****e as well. I don't like the term snowflake, moany bastards suit these people better.

I'd thank that twice if I could, right on the button. My wish is that these kind of people would **** off out of gaming as a hobby, and maybe find one of the countless movies or tv shows that will cater to their need for social/political issues to be addressed. Games are supposed to be fun - I don't play games for commentary on the real world, I play them to get away from the real world.

26-03-2018 1:46pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Yeah I hated far cry 4 so was weary of this the whole time but anything I've seen just sounds like a fun game. My biggest concern was doing enough resistance stuff to get a lieutenant out, that was still grindy in Mafia 3 but haven't read one had thing about this system yet.

Depends what it was about 4 you disliked. The two things I hated about Far Cry 4 were:

a. Taking over outposts, (basically the whole point of the game) - still there is 5.
b. Aimless open world - still there in 5. Some people love heading out there and getting lost, arsing about. I call that a waste of my time. Give me a purpose to be out there arsing about.

The Specialist · 26-03-2018 1:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

b. Aimless open world - still there in 5. Some people love heading out there and getting lost, arsing about. I call that a waste of my time. Give me a purpose to be out there arsing about.

Half the joy of Far Cry is going out and getting lost/distracted in the world. If you want a purpose or streamlined game, then open world titles probably aren't for you.

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 1:58pm

I loved talking over outposts in FC 3, felt like a badass ninja with a bow. I think with 4, i didn't like 1 character and felt annoyed being sent on stupid quests. I got burnt out half way through and have up. It just felt like a lot of filler. Even though it was more of the same as FC 3, those games are night and day for me enjoyment wise.

As for the open world, I really like what I read on one review where there is no mini map and you have to discover points of interest either by stumbling into an area, talking to people, finding maps in game, magazines for fishing spots and road signs for . Wandering around, he found a guy being held at gunpoint. After saving him, he told of a local farm being taken over by a cult, cleared it out finding info about local fishing spots and a saved farmer told them about something else going on. He did it all felt very organic instead of multiple did appearing on your map that you are mindlessly checking off.

26-03-2018 1:58pm

The Specialist wrote: »

Half the joy of Far Cry is going out and getting lost/distracted in the world. If you want a purpose or streamlined game, then open world titles probably aren't for you.

Not at all. Open world titles are very much for me, just not this open world title.

gizmo · 26-03-2018 2:02pm

The Specialist wrote: »

Eurogamer yet again with a review that spends more time pondering why the game isn't a political social statement, rather than you know, just an enjoyable game. :rolleyes: That's it for me now anyway, after this and the KCD review, Eurogamer can go **** itself hard with it's PC notions.

This is demonstrably untrue. Why would you even say that given the fact we can read the review right here?

Anyone who has followed the development of the game will know that Ubisoft put a huge amount of time, effort and money into highlighting the setting and story so it stands to reason a good review would comment on whether their treatment of the subject was successful or not. The reviewer at EG seems to think they've missed the mark as described in the paragraph which Kiith quoted without the necessary context.

Where the game does try to take you through the mechanics by which people become fanatics, it does so at the level of cheap sensation, via devices such as mass hypnosis or mind-altering drugs that can be easily translated into the brutal lingo of an action game. There's little sustained investigation of wider social factors, like the overlap between militant Christian extremism and white supremacy or sexism - indeed, the game generally ducks such questions. The cult's ranks are stocked with a mixture of races and genders, in what feels like a careful sanitising of the subject matter.

Personally speaking, that's the most I'd expect from a Far Cry game so I'm not particularly bothered and from reading the rest of the review it still seems like a solid 7/10 game with "just enough going on here to keep a returning fan involved". Their summation in the last paragraph, however, seems to echo the opinions of a lot of folk both on these forums and elsewhere online with regard to the general Ubisoft open world formula (pre-AC:Origins at least) and how it has become somewhat stale, regardless of the setting.

gimli2112 · 26-03-2018 2:03pm

What initially turned me off 4 was the animals, you couldn't walk 5 paces without being attacked by some psychotic badger. Think they toned it down a bit as when I came back it didn't seem as bad, it just got dull after a while. I think you unlock everything really early so there's no sense of progression which doesn't help.

26-03-2018 2:07pm

Mediocre it seems
More of the same with not many risks taken
Classic Ubisoft

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-03-25-far-cry-5-review

The Specialist · 26-03-2018 2:11pm

gizmo wrote: »

This is demonstrably untrue. Why would you even say that given the fact we can read the review right here?

Did you read the part you quoted?

There's little sustained investigation of wider social factors, like the overlap between militant Christian extremism and white supremacy or sexism - indeed, the game generally ducks such questions

A game that's all about blowing **** up and feeling like a bad ass while doing it doesn't want to bore it's player to death by making statements on "white supremacy" or "sexism". Yeah...I don't think I can play it if those aren't addressed in it :rolleyes:

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 2:14pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Mediocre it seems
More of the same with not many risks taken
Classic Ubisoft

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-03-25-far-cry-5-review

More like classic Eurogamer amiright?? :pac:

26-03-2018 2:17pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

More like classic Eurogamer amiright?? :pac:

I find them and ACG to be fairly accurate in their assessments

ERG89 · 26-03-2018 2:18pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

More like classic Eurogamer amiright?? :pac:

They didn't butcher it like the Kingdoms Come Deliverance review, did they?
Which was utterly embarrassing

gizmo · 26-03-2018 2:24pm

The Specialist wrote: »

Did you read the part you quoted?

You said the review spent "more time pondering why the game isn't a political social statement, rather than you know, just an enjoyable game"

I read the entire review which is how I know your appraisal is completely untrue.

The Specialist wrote: »

A game that's all about blowing **** up and feeling like a bad ass while doing it doesn't want to bore it's player to death by making statements on "white supremacy" or "sexism". Yeah...I don't think I can play it if those aren't addressed in it :rolleyes:

Did you even read my reply? Not only that but you've removed even more context from the paragraph as it appeared in the review this time. What purpose does that even serve?

jones · 26-03-2018 2:24pm

Good review from screenrant (i know they are not exclusively a gaming review site but i like their reviews)

https://screenrant.com/far-cry-5-review/

Needless to say, Far Cry 5 is a new, massive, and even prettier and more polished version of the established formula with the big bonus of a mode which adds endless possibility. It’s extremely fun, wild, and oftentimes weird.

johnny_ultimate · 26-03-2018 2:30pm

Are people genuinely giving out about reviews focusing on or addressing the political side of the game? I mean, even the bloody cover art is designed to be politicially provocative. It’s a game that’s actively inviting and anticipating these sort of critiques. It’s one thing if a review addresses a political point badly or cack-handedly - e.g. the Kingdom Come review - but these things are fair game, and as far as I’m concerned a hell of a lot more interesting than bland, cookie-cutter ‘mechanics / graphics / soundtrack / longevity’ box-ticking type reviews.

Far Cry games are predictable and derivative in terms of design, and they have been for several games now (ah, for the ambition of FC2 again). Nothing I’ve seen suggests this departs radically from that. The setting and real-world context it embraces is the most interesting part of the game by far (although personally I’m not expecting it to say anything interesting about the subject matter), and I’d consider it a borderline dereliction of critical duty if a reviewer just pushed it off to the side. Mainstream gaming criticism is long overdue growing the **** up, and games like this are perfect opportunities to do so.

gimli2112 · 26-03-2018 2:33pm

jones wrote: »

Good review from screenrant (i know they are not exclusively a gaming review site but i like their reviews)

https://screenrant.com/far-cry-5-review/

Needless to say, Far Cry 5 is a new, massive, and even prettier and more polished version of the established formula with the big bonus of a mode which adds endless possibility. It’s extremely fun, wild, and oftentimes weird.

First line of the article just hardened my resolve to get it. Any game where you can befriend a giant diabetic bear has my vote.

Grayditch · 26-03-2018 2:50pm

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

(ah, for the ambition of FC2 again).

Or the Map Making community and Multiplayer focus. Them days.

dreamers75 · 26-03-2018 3:00pm

G day maties

GavRedKing · 26-03-2018 3:16pm

I'm gonna get it on my break tomorrow and load it up to play after work.

Damo 2k9 · 26-03-2018 3:33pm

I was going to get this on PS4 in Smyths, but im thinking of PC now. Ive only an old i5 and a 960, anyone know what that will run it like??

Havent had a decent SP game to play in ages.

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 4:15pm

Class launch trailer, really looking forward to lashing into this tomorrow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR2KqWGOpFI

Jerichoholic · 26-03-2018 4:53pm

Mines out for delivery right now. Can't wait.

IGN are going with 8.9. Hardly a mediocre score.

Gamespot are going 9.

Eurogamer knocking points off because he doesn't like the politics in game that is SATIRE. Absolute stupidity. Games journalists are sickening sometimes.

Generic Dreadhead · 26-03-2018 5:14pm

I'll console myself with the fact Fallout 4 and Bioshock Infinite both got similar hot receptions which masked their actual averageness

Sephiroth_dude · 26-03-2018 5:27pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Eurogamer knocking points off because he doesn't like the politics in game

What a silly reason to knock points off

. The map looks massive!

Stone Deaf 4evr · 26-03-2018 5:29pm

I think its fair to critique the story - the initial trailer for this was a much more somber affair, leading us to believe that this was going to be a dark tale, forcing us to face some of the more uncomfortable aspects of racism etc in modern society. Ubisoft were applauded for this, and then started squirming and shuffling the feet, before the next round of trailers went more in the 'yee haw! lets blow sh!t up' style of things.

My biggest worry with the game was that I'd be doing the very same stuff I was doing in Far Cry 3 & 4, and that worry appears to be confirmed. 3 was a stellar title because the story (to a point - once vaas was gone, hoyt didnt muster the same disdain) was as good as the gameplay. FC4 lost a lot of the engament of 3, as you were very much out there on your own, taking down outposts, just like before, climbing towers, just like before, etc etc.

I'll probably pick it up when it inevitably drops in price though.

Jerichoholic · 26-03-2018 5:32pm

4 just seemed to go on forever. The arcade mode looks interesting in this one too. Hopefully there's a solid multiplayer suite to play with.

Exclamation Marc · 26-03-2018 5:51pm

I loved 4. Platinumed it and all, although the last couple of co-op trophies were painful.

Zero-Cool · 26-03-2018 6:15pm

Got my text to pick up the game. Shop closed at 6. Bastard Smyths. At least it's there first thing in the morning.

Grayditch · 26-03-2018 6:20pm

I'm forgot to NOT use Parcel Motel for this with Amazon, so I'm sure I'll get it by tomorrow night.

gimli2112 · 26-03-2018 6:21pm

downloaded the digital delux version, seemed a no brainer as it was only €3 more in the ps store

GavRedKing · 26-03-2018 6:26pm

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Got my text to pick up the game. Shop closed at 6. Bastard Smyths. At least it's there first thing in the morning.

No text here anyway, picking up from Kinsale Road Smyths in Cork.

Will have to wait for lunch time tomorrow.

GavRedKing · 26-03-2018 6:36pm

Just got the text too, fecking closed since 6.

Far Cry 5

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