Housemate installed indoor camera in communal room

Sleeper12 · 02-05-2018 3:49pm

The landlord has no right to install a camera indoors like this and you would be quick enough to get him/her to remove it. Likewise one tenant in a house share can't install a camera in common areas.

Notify the landlord. It then becomes their responsibility to ensure that the camera is removed and not installed again.

This is your home. It can be difficult enough to house share but being spied upon is a definite no-no

Victor · 02-05-2018 3:58pm

Damian Dirty Quarrel wrote: »

How would he know who threw it out to retaliate?

It's a camera? Likely connected to something?

PlaneSpeeking · 02-05-2018 4:07pm

If it's recording to a Cloud or similar, he would have a recording of whoever moved it doing so ?

Agreed on throwing him out but the dog's done nothing! He probably hates him as much!

ebbsy · 02-05-2018 5:51pm

Call the guards and say he's a dealer. Then call the LL and tell him the fuzz were around.

dr.fuzzenstein · 02-05-2018 6:03pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

If he’s smoking weed every day then he’s a drug addict. The dude probably cannot function without it. No landlord would want some stoner stinking the place up either.

Contact the landlord, OP. Explain everything and proceed from there.

If someone drinks alcohol every day he's a drug addict.

edit:
Sorry for the OT, not saying one is better then the other. Some stoners also turn into major assholes.

Samuel T. Cogley · 02-05-2018 6:05pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

If someone drinks alcohol every day he's a drug addict.

Yes but termed an alcoholic assuming they are dependant and not just drinking a small glass of red with dinner.

dr.fuzzenstein · 02-05-2018 6:29pm

lawred2 wrote: »

didn't say it was but I fail to see why tenants should have to share their paid for space with some stoner's dog

It may come as a shock to many Irish, but not everyone hates dogs.

dog tired · 02-05-2018 6:34pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Cool the Jets he's smoking some pot not crack and he also works.

Camera needs to go, maybe outside with the dog while he's at work. They just need to sit him down like someone said soprano style and tell him how it's going to work.

I know someone who turned very aggressive due to years and years of smoking weed. It's not just casual smoking here.

SNNUS · 02-05-2018 6:41pm

What a psycho he seems to be, you need to get rid of him.. It will be hidden cameras next..

lawred2 · 02-05-2018 6:42pm

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

lawred2 wrote: »

didn't say it was but I fail to see why tenants should have to share their paid for space with some stoner's dog

It may come as a shock to many Irish, but not everyone hates dogs.

And?

People are free to pay for their own properties and have as many animals as they want...

Most people do not want to rent with someone else's animals. And most people definitely do not want someone else's dog roaming about communal areas without any sort of guardianship..

Maybe you think that's a normal state of affairs but I'd wager most renting in shared accommodation would disagree with you..

Not sure where hate comes into it.. but the dog should not be free to roam about communal areas unattended.

housetypeb · 02-05-2018 7:28pm

Couldn't this be classed as anti social behaviour, the constant pot smoking and now installing cameras in the common area, so he could be given 7 days notice of termination by the landlord.

Telly · 02-05-2018 7:36pm

Start **** in the sitting room. He’ll either put more cameras in or take it away.

boege · 02-05-2018 8:11pm

Op
I would say you have done talking to co-tenant.

I would advise LL as he may have a duty to act here. If he does not you may be able to then you may be able to report it to the Data Protection Commissioner. You are renting a house from LL wherein your privacy rights are being infringed, particularly if he is recording.

On the smoking pot side, it sounds like his excessive use is leading to mild paranoia. It is not uncommon. I would wonder if he is really watching the dog.The need for an audio feed is a further clue.

Gatling · 02-05-2018 8:13pm

Telly wrote: »

Start **** in the sitting room. He’ll either put more cameras in or take it away.

Or post the videos on gay porn sites

Gatling · 02-05-2018 8:13pm

Telly wrote: »

Start **** in the sitting room. He’ll either put more cameras in or take it away.

Or post the videos on gay porn sites

Fann Linn · 02-05-2018 8:19pm

ebbsy wrote: »

Call the guards and say he's a dealer. Then call the LL and tell him the fuzz were around.

Correct. Sometimes the solution is really the most obvious one.

drunkmonkey · 02-05-2018 8:46pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Correct. Sometimes the solution is really the most obvious one.

That's a stupid solution and a really ****ty thing to bring on someone you live with not to mention everyone else in the house.
It's a group of guys they should be able to sort this out between themselves. He's not going to start hitting anyone if he does he can move out straight away.
I'm sure the guys do things he's not happy about there's always give and take in a house share, the camera just crossed the line and isn't acceptable.
Cut the power and pull it down if he's not willing to do it.

TheChizler · 02-05-2018 9:41pm

Joelle Brief Fishhook wrote: »

I would seek to get him assessed with a view to committal.

That's a new one to me in this forum!

Eric Cartman · 02-05-2018 9:45pm

if its really about the dog then surely he'd agree the camera could be unplugged while there are people in the house ? if he goes mad about that then its definitely a spying issue.

on the cannabis thing, many people with depression/anxiety or other disorders use cannabis as a crutch, Ive lived with many a heavy smoker and usually that kind of chronic isolation and consumption is as a result of the mental health issues they already have, not the cause of them.

dr.fuzzenstein · 02-05-2018 10:49pm

dog tired wrote: »

I know someone who turned very aggressive due to years and years of smoking weed. It's not just casual smoking here.

I have seen it myself. Serious paranoia and aggression in someone who used to be a good friend of mine.
Used to chain smoke joints and that for decades.
No one can tell me that stuff doesn't mess with your head when you smoke industrial quantities.

Amalgam · 02-05-2018 10:57pm

Could the camera be there to alert him to someone arriving at the house, AGS, basically keep tabs on who's around etc, that maybe something else is going on, storage of stuff in his room?

If he's recording there's a whole bucket of issues there, don't recordings have to be wiped after two weeks?

CollyFlower · 02-05-2018 11:30pm

Jeez, that's a bit creepy, even if he does remove it I'd never be comfortable living with him, he could have a secret camera installed, east enough to do.

02-05-2018 11:36pm

boege wrote: »

Op
I would say you have done talking to co-tenant.

I would advise LL as he may have a duty to act here. If he does not you may be able to then you may be able to report it to the Data Protection Commissioner. You are renting a house from LL wherein your privacy rights are being infringed, particularly if he is recording.

On the smoking pot side, it sounds like his excessive use is leading to mild paranoia. It is not uncommon. I would wonder if he is really watching the dog.The need for an audio feed is a further clue.

It's nothing to do with the LL, the house is rented and it's the occupiers only who are involved by in this.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-05-2018 4:48am

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the_syco · 03-05-2018 5:10am

Maybe look for a gadget that will interfere with the camera.

Where is the camera pointed towards? Could it be that he's gotten paranoid from smoking too much weed, and the cameras watching out for the Gardai?

drunkmonkey · 03-05-2018 8:04am

the_syco wrote: »

Maybe look for a gadget that will interfere with the camera.

The ultimate gadget interfearer.

The J Stands for Jay · 03-05-2018 8:26am

lawred2 wrote: »

And?

People are free to pay for their own properties and have as many animals as they want...

Most people do not want to rent with someone else's animals. And most people definitely do not want someone else's dog roaming about communal areas without any sort of guardianship..

Maybe you think that's a normal state of affairs but I'd wager most renting in shared accommodation would disagree with you..

Not sure where hate comes into it.. but the dog should not be free to roam about communal areas unattended.

The dog will need to start paying rent and contributing to the bills.

Tell me how · 03-05-2018 8:49am

1 - Turn off power at main fuse board (to disable camera)*.
2 - Remove, destroy, throw away camera.
3 - Turn power back on.
4 - Deny deny deny.

* disabling camera should prevent him having a recording of who removed it thus mitigating retaliation.

P.S. I love dogs but bringing one in to a house share is taking the p*ss.

JustJoe7240 · 03-05-2018 9:04am

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

It may come as a shock to many Irish, but not everyone hates dogs.

I love dogs, But that doesn't mean I'd want one in a house share.

I'd keep rubbing vaseline on the lens until he gets the message.

lawred2 · 03-05-2018 9:06am

Tell me how wrote: »

1 - Turn off power at main fuse board (to disable camera)*.
2 - Remove, destroy, throw away camera.
3 - Turn power back on.
4 - Deny deny deny.

* disabling camera should prevent him having a recording of who removed it thus mitigating retaliation.

P.S. I love dogs but bringing one in to a house share is taking the p*ss.

I doubt the power source for this camera is anything other than a wall socket

Housemate installed indoor camera in communal room

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