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Housemate installed indoor camera in communal room

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  • 02-05-2018 10:06am
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    LasersGoPewPew
    Registered Users Posts: 243 ✭✭


    A long term tenant in our houseshare installed a indoor camera capable of recording both video and audio, and I think has rotational capability. He said he installed it in the living room to 'watch his dog' which has free roam of the communal spaces when he's gone to work.

    The other tenents and I in the house rightfully opposed this and demanded him to take it down due to privacy issues. When we unplugged it on a few occasions and confronted him, he got very aggressive about it and keeps plugging it in.

    The tenent spends all his time in his room smoking Cannabis(stinks up the house) when he's at home and does not interact with the rest of us, the other tenents and I regularly use the living room for watching TV and playing console games together during our free time.

    I am concerned he will do something to my car like key it because he's the type of guy who would do it, if I bin his camera altogether.


    Can anybody please advise how to deal with this difficult tenent and matter?

    Edit: can a mod please correct the title to living room


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    dudara
    Registered Users Posts: 33,519 ✭✭✭✭dudara


    Could you have a word with the landlord about it?


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    AmberGold
    Registered Users Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭AmberGold


    GTF out! Sounds like a nutter, I can't imagine any grounds why you are even considering staying in this house.


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    Murdoc90
    Registered Users Posts: 924 ✭✭✭Murdoc90


    AmberGold wrote: »
    GTF out! Sounds like a nutter, I can't imagine any grounds why you are even considering staying in this house.

    For some people it's either put up with sh*t like this or be homeless.

    Call to your landlord should solve this, he has no right to install something like this in a house, if all else fails take a baseball bat to it. (the camera, not your house mate)


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    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Would a few of you not take him aside and "have a little word with him" in the Godfather / Soprano's sense? Sounds like the weed has given him a bit of a God complex that needs to be shaken out.


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    utyh2ikcq9z76b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    How would he know who threw it out to retaliate?


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    GreeBo
    Registered Users Posts: 27,073 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Remove it and deny any knowledge it ever existed.
    If you all do it this stoner may think he just dreamed it.


    Seriously though, I'd be getting him out asap.
    Contact your landlord.


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    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    Contact the landlord immediately. He won’t want a drug addict as a tenant.


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    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,118 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    Contact the landlord immediately. He won’t want a drug addict as a tenant.

    Cool the Jets he's smoking some pot not crack and he also works.

    Camera needs to go, maybe outside with the dog while he's at work. They just need to sit him down like someone said soprano style and tell him how it's going to work.


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    TheBoyConor
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    And does the landlord know about the dog?
    Tbh it is highly unlikely that the landlord has given him permission to have a dog in the house.

    I'd be more of the opinion that this is an issue between the housemates and really doesn't invlove the landlord so I'd not bother him unless it cannot be sorted between ye.

    I would favour the approach of ye all piling the pressure on him to get rid of it. Basically, make life so difficult for him that he will relent and give up the camera, or else take his camera and leave the house for good.


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    JohnnyFlash
    Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Cool the Jets he's smoking some pot not crack and he also works.

    Camera needs to go, maybe outside with the dog while he's at work. They just need to sit him down like someone said soprano style and tell him how it's going to work.

    If he’s smoking weed every day then he’s a drug addict. The dude probably cannot function without it. No landlord would want some stoner stinking the place up either.

    Contact the landlord, OP. Explain everything and proceed from there.


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    ArthurG
    Registered Users Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭ArthurG


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Would a few of you not take him aside and "have a little word with him" in the Godfather / Soprano's sense? Sounds like the weed has given him a bit of a God complex that needs to be shaken out.

    Yeah, resorting to violence is always the best option :rolleyes:


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    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    ArthurG wrote: »
    Yeah, resorting to violence is always the best option :rolleyes:

    It's ok snowflake, I didn't necessarily mean he should be killed and encased in concrete, just a stern, perhaps slightly menacing talking to should be enough. :rolleyes:


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    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,899 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Just out of curiosity what can the LL do if the tenant just refuses to comply with anything, be it the dog or the camera?

    I suppose he could be evicted for not meeting his responsibilities, but would the statutory notice have to be given?


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    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    It would be very difficult for the landlord to get rid of him and not be open to litigation.

    In that situation the best way is for the other tenants to make life intolerable for the offending housemate to the point that he chooses to move out.


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    antoinolachtnai
    Registered Users Posts: 9,774 ✭✭✭antoinolachtnai


    Are you all on one lease or separate leases?


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    billybonkers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Speak to the LL OP, explain he is smoking weed n the house all the time, the dog is roaming free and he has installed a camera against all other housemates wishes. Plenty there to sort him out tbf


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    EdgeCase
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    I would call the landlord immediately. Legally speaking, that's a major invasion of privacy and is utterly unreasonable.

    Also might be worth seeking advice (other tenants and the landlord) from the RTB.


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    Samuel T. Cogley
    Registered Users Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Checked the bathroom?


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    billybonkers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »
    Checked the bathroom?

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


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    cunavalos
    Registered Users Posts: 1,383 ✭✭✭cunavalos


    Is it a wifi security camera, if so then just block the cameras ip address from your router


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    Mits
    Registered Users Posts: 154 ✭✭Mits


    If he won't listen to reason you need to contact the landlord. The problem is it could take a long time for the landlord to get him. I don't think any landlord would approve of his behaviour.

    You could also contact the Garda, smoking dope is still illegal.


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    evolving_doors
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    Put up a photo in front of the camera while he's out. Photoshop in pictures of his dog in compromising positions with the cat.


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    #24
    Gravelly
    Registered Users Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Did it ever occur to you that you may have accidentally stumbled across the fact that your entire life might be fake?

    e6245a25a5f4dfbf5804716f3e2e379b908494ae.jpg?mw=600


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    Greybottle
    Registered Users Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    Put a cover over the camera and leave it there. if he tries to move it then tell him it's not touching the camera and that you've no intention of sitting there while he looks at you.

    Mid to long term just look for another place to stay. Tell the LL that he's always stoned, that you're worried about him setting the place on fire and that the dog won't stop barking.


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    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,292 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    LasersGoPewPew wrote: »
    A long term tenant in our houseshare installed a indoor camera capable of recording both video and audio, and I think has rotational capability. He said he installed it in the living room to 'watch his dog' which has free roam of the communal spaces when he's gone to work.

    The other tenents and I in the house rightfully opposed this and demanded him to take it down due to privacy issues. When we unplugged it on a few occasions and confronted him, he got very aggressive about it and keeps plugging it in.

    The tenent spends all his time in his room smoking Cannabis(stinks up the house) when he's at home and does not interact with the rest of us, the other tenents and I regularly use the living room for watching TV and playing console games together during our free time.

    I am concerned he will do something to my car like key it because he's the type of guy who would do it, if I bin his camera altogether.


    Can anybody please advise how to deal with this difficult tenent and matter?

    Edit: can a mod please correct the title to living room

    so two things

    rip the camera out

    and f$ck the dog out the back


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    Effects
    Registered Users Posts: 9,761 ✭✭✭Effects


    What about a compromise of just having the camera on when there's no one in the house?
    So last tenant out turns it on, first tenant in turns it off?


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    TheBoyConor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Because then he will know when people are coming and going from the house.

    It's totally unreasonable. Plus he's a drug addict (I make no distinctions between users of weed, coke, heroin or brown-brown) and if I had a drug addict in a house I was sharing they'd be going out through the door head first!


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    DubJJ
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭DubJJ


    Effects wrote: »
    What about a compromise of just having the camera on when there's no one in the house?
    So last tenant out turns it on, first tenant in turns it off?

    Do you really think that's an acceptable compromise?
    The other tenants should be responsible for ensuring the camera is switched on or off?

    Do you mind if I come around your gaff and install a few cameras around, it's ok you can switch them off when you're home?


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    Dial Hard
    Registered Users Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    lawred2 wrote: »
    and f$ck the dog out the back

    It's hardly the dog's fault, in fairness.


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    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,292 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    It's hardly the dog's fault, in fairness.

    didn't say it was but I fail to see why tenants should have to share their paid for space with some stoner's dog


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