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On Accident vs By Accident

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  • #52
    Tokyo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,655 ✭✭✭✭Tokyo


    From one of the school books over here:

    MPVYS2bl.png

    WTF is 'healthful'?


  • #53
    endacl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    mike_ie wrote: »
    From one of the school books over here:

    MPVYS2bl.png

    WTF is 'healthful'?
    Food that makes you stupid.

    It’s the only possible explanation.


  • #54
    Badly Drunk Boy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,707 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I was talking to somebody today who used the term 'hating on'. When I spoke of my displeasure at the usage, he said "How else can you say what I just said?". I said "Exactly as you said it, without the word 'on'. The sentence works perfectly without it". :rolleyes:
    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Lego is the collective word though.

    You don't play with 50 pieces of lego or 50 legos, you just play with lego.

    We shouldn't dumb language down, we should smarten people up.
    You play with lego, or lego blocks. Not legos. Usually just lego, though.


  • #55
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    sugarman wrote: »
    I'm no grammar Nazi and I'm far from perfect myself, but a lot of it is very basic stuff! The likes of...

    "Should of" instead of "Should HAVE" or "Should've".

    Not knowing the difference between There, Their and They're.

    Not knowing the difference between Then and Than.

    Don't you think I seen and I done are much more common mistakes?

    On here are some forums worse for it than others?
    Out of the forums I read the motors one is by far the worst, I'm not sure why.


  • #56
    NickNickleby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    from now on, I'm keeping a dickshunry beside me whenever I post on boreds.


  • #57
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    NickNickleby wrote: »
    from now on, I'm keeping a dickshunry beside me whenever I post on boreds.

    Which dickshunry can be used to correct grammar?


  • #58
    NickNickleby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭NickNickleby


    tuxy wrote: »
    Which dickshunry can be used to correct grammar?

    Aha!
    However, its my spelling that let's me down. My grammar is impeccable!!

    What ho!

    (I'm off to check my post history for grammatical errors now. :pac::pac::pac:)


  • #59
    Pherekydes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,190 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Accidentally!


  • #60
    NSAman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,442 ✭✭✭NSAman


    Amazing the way just changing some words around, can give you a completely different meaning... no wonder English is a mad language to learn....

    E.g. I pricked my finger....

    or I fingered my..


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  • #61
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Looking into the LEGO non pluralisation it looks like the company itself tries to enforce that rule. Probably to protect the brand.


  • #62
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    https://twitter.com/lego_group/status/502086477652959232?s=21


    It’s an adjective.


  • #63
    Eggs For Dinner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    amcalester wrote: »
    should of would of could of

    Those grate on my nerves more than any other


  • #64
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Accidentally.


    I've never heard anybody say, on accident.


  • #65
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Jemma Mealy Trip wrote: »
    Accidentally.


    I've never heard anybody say, on accident.

    I seen someone say it once but they were embarrassed when they realised what they done.


  • #66
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    tuxy wrote: »
    I seen someone say it once but they were embarrassed when they realised what they done.

    Surely you heard someone say it? :)


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  • #67
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    tuxy wrote: »
    I seen someone say it once but they were embarrassed when they realised what they done.

    I. Must. Not. Reply.


  • #68
    kowloon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,516 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing.


  • #69
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »
    I. Must. Not. Reply.

    If you didn't reply how come I seen it, so typical that you done that!


  • #70
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Standman wrote: »
    Just shows how language often isn't logical. There's no reason why "on purpose" should be ok while "on accident" isn't, other than everyone's got used to the former.


    Same with the current "trend" in the British media for people to say "I was stood at the bus stop" or "I am sat here in the cinema" both of which grate on my ears as they are what's called 'non standard English' but yet have become widespread enough to virtually replace the standard English form of "sitting & standing".

    I guess the same applies to "on accident" which may also become widespread, if enough people adopt it....


  • #71
    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Hamsterchops wrote: »
    Same with the current "trend" in the British media for people to say "I was stood at the bus stop" or "I am sat here in the cinema" both of which grate on my ears as they are what's called 'non standard English' but yet have become widespread enough to virtually replace the standard English form of "sitting & standing".

    I guess the same applies to "on accident" which may also become widespread, if enough people adopt it....

    That's not a trend though, it's very old usage in the north of England.


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  • #72
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    It started as a Northern dialect, which has now spread down south to become the norm, even though it is non standard English .....


  • #73
    Kameron Odd Locomotive
    Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kameron Odd Locomotive


    mike_ie wrote: »
    From one of the school books over here:

    MPVYS2bl.png

    WTF is 'healthful'?

    it's one of those older ones, iirc
    google shows:

    https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/healthy-or-healthful


  • #74
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,478 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Autecher wrote: »
    It's an American thing. "I didn't do it on purpose, I did it on accident".

    My 4 year old says this


  • #75
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    My 4 year old says this

    If my kid came saying that I’d think he did a number on some poor unfortunate


  • #76
    auspicious
    Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    - I didn't say nothing.

    >< ffs!!!

    Also the written mix-ups:

    - taught and thought
    - their and there ( and they're )

    ><


  • #77
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I did it by purpose
    I did it on accident.

    I did it on purpose
    I did it by accident.

    They got it ars*ways.

    They don't know what ars*ways means.


  • #78
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,202 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I did it by purpose
    I did it on accident.

    I did it on purpose
    I did it by accident.

    They got it ars*ways.

    They don't know what ars*ways means.


    THEY DID THIS BY PURPOSE! :mad:


  • #79
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I d̶i̶d̶ done it by purpose
    I d̶i̶d̶ done it on accident.

    I d̶i̶d̶ done it on purpose
    I d̶i̶d̶ done it by accident.

    Sorry to be a grammar nazi but I had to fix this.....


  • #80
    PARlance
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,338 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    On route


  • #81
    up for anything
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    Why is this happening?


    Perhaps because primary school teachers use some of the worst grammar I've ever come across. I used to scold my children for their bad grammar and thought they were picking it up from other children but they constantly told me that the teachers said it like that. After a few years I realised they were right. Over time I heard the teachers say things like "I done that" or "He brung it in" plus the deese, dat, dem and does. If you've been trained to teach a language then pronunciation and grammar counts.


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  • #82
    Thargor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,967 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    People using "Loose" instead of "Lose" drives me mad, Boards is infested with it.


  • #83
    Turquoise Hexagon Sun
    Registered Users Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    PARlance wrote: »
    On route

    I was on route to the event but had to turn back because I left my tablet behind on accident. I could care less because the event started late anyway and didn't loose out on anything


  • #84
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    up for anything wrote: »
    Perhaps because primary school teachers use some of the worst grammar I've ever come across. I used to scold my children for their bad grammar and thought they were picking it up from other children but they constantly told me that the teachers said it like that. After a few years I realised they were right. Over time I heard the teachers say things like "I done that" or "He brung it in" plus the deese, dat, dem and does. If you've been trained to teach a language then pronunciation and grammar counts.

    Having correct grammar should be a requirement for graduating and getting a teaching qualification. It doesn't matter how much you understanding maths, geography etc. If you are teaching a class of 30 kids they will pickup your bad grammar.

    If an existing teacher was speaking like this to a class i would consider it a disciplinable offence and something the teacher needed to fix. Just as if they were teaching the incorrect capital city of a country.

    Being able to speak properly has a massive impact on future earning potential of any employee.

    Im not perfectly by any means, but ive got the basics.


  • #85
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    is_that_so wrote: »
    First abomination comes from American English usage, like on the weekend and thankfully not frequent. The 2nd one would be accepted as being most correct.

    Americans don’t say “on accident”. Not regularly anyway. I’ve never heard any American say that.


  • #86
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,646 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    Im not perfectly by any means, but ive got the basics.

    *I'm *perfect *I've

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  • #87
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Penfailed wrote: »
    That's creeping in over here. So is, "I was sat..." instead of, "I was sitting..."

    British people are the worst for that, not Americans.


  • #88
    seagull
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    But that's what they're thought in collage.


  • #89
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Ax me!

    Say that again and I'll probably feel like doing it.


  • #90
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Penfailed wrote: »
    *I'm *perfect *I've

    You know what they say. You will always make a mistake yourself when correcting someones grammar.


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  • #91
    FishOnABike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,550 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    You know what they say. You will always make a mistake yourself when correcting someone's grammar.

    FTFY ;-)


  • #92
    leahyl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,322 ✭✭✭✭leahyl


    A friend of mine is American and she says “on accident” - the first time I heard her say it, I laughed, because it sounded so strange; it still does because it’s WRONG!!

    Also, the amount of people who don’t know how to use there, their or they’re correctly in a sentence is mind boggling.


  • #93
    steve-o
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭steve-o


    corner of hells wrote: »
    unpossible
    That's perfectly cromulent.


  • #94
    Upforthematch
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    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    You know what they say. You will always make a mistake yourself when correcting someones grammar.

    And rightly so!


  • #95
    Hamsterchops
    Registered Users Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    seagull wrote: »
    But that's what they're thought in collage.

    :D

    I know somebody who mixes up thought & taught all the time, but I can't bring myself to correct them. Maybe I should?


  • #96
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    "accidentally" works fine..

    I have never lost since my teaching days my "red pen " mentality. I see every error.


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  • #97
    NoviGlitzko
    Registered Users Posts: 2,582 ✭✭✭NoviGlitzko


    Most one sided poll ever?


  • #98
    Cee-Jay-Cee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    My daughters say ‘...by an accident’

    No idea where they got it from. They have their own way of saying many things like ‘I wanted to wonder...’ when asking/wondering about something. It makes them unique and I have no intention of correcting them.


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