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On Accident vs By Accident

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,278 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    amcalester wrote: »
    should of would of could of

    Those grate on my nerves more than any other


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Accidentally.


    I've never heard anybody say, on accident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    Accidentally.


    I've never heard anybody say, on accident.

    I seen someone say it once but they were embarrassed when they realised what they done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    tuxy wrote: »
    I seen someone say it once but they were embarrassed when they realised what they done.

    Surely you heard someone say it? :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    tuxy wrote: »
    I seen someone say it once but they were embarrassed when they realised what they done.

    I. Must. Not. Reply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,187 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    For all intensive purposes they mean the same thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I. Must. Not. Reply.

    If you didn't reply how come I seen it, so typical that you done that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Standman wrote: »
    Just shows how language often isn't logical. There's no reason why "on purpose" should be ok while "on accident" isn't, other than everyone's got used to the former.


    Same with the current "trend" in the British media for people to say "I was stood at the bus stop" or "I am sat here in the cinema" both of which grate on my ears as they are what's called 'non standard English' but yet have become widespread enough to virtually replace the standard English form of "sitting & standing".

    I guess the same applies to "on accident" which may also become widespread, if enough people adopt it....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    Same with the current "trend" in the British media for people to say "I was stood at the bus stop" or "I am sat here in the cinema" both of which grate on my ears as they are what's called 'non standard English' but yet have become widespread enough to virtually replace the standard English form of "sitting & standing".

    I guess the same applies to "on accident" which may also become widespread, if enough people adopt it....

    That's not a trend though, it's very old usage in the north of England.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    It started as a Northern dialect, which has now spread down south to become the norm, even though it is non standard English .....


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Kameron Odd Locomotive


    mike_ie wrote: »
    From one of the school books over here:

    MPVYS2bl.png

    WTF is 'healthful'?

    it's one of those older ones, iirc
    google shows:

    https://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/healthy-or-healthful


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,327 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Autecher wrote: »
    It's an American thing. "I didn't do it on purpose, I did it on accident".

    My 4 year old says this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    My 4 year old says this

    If my kid came saying that I’d think he did a number on some poor unfortunate


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,642 ✭✭✭auspicious


    - I didn't say nothing.

    >< ffs!!!

    Also the written mix-ups:

    - taught and thought
    - their and there ( and they're )

    ><


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    I did it by purpose
    I did it on accident.

    I did it on purpose
    I did it by accident.

    They got it ars*ways.

    They don't know what ars*ways means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I did it by purpose
    I did it on accident.

    I did it on purpose
    I did it by accident.

    They got it ars*ways.

    They don't know what ars*ways means.


    THEY DID THIS BY PURPOSE! :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    ToddyDoody wrote: »
    I d̶i̶d̶ done it by purpose
    I d̶i̶d̶ done it on accident.

    I d̶i̶d̶ done it on purpose
    I d̶i̶d̶ done it by accident.

    Sorry to be a grammar nazi but I had to fix this.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,635 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    On route


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,791 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Why is this happening?


    Perhaps because primary school teachers use some of the worst grammar I've ever come across. I used to scold my children for their bad grammar and thought they were picking it up from other children but they constantly told me that the teachers said it like that. After a few years I realised they were right. Over time I heard the teachers say things like "I done that" or "He brung it in" plus the deese, dat, dem and does. If you've been trained to teach a language then pronunciation and grammar counts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,542 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    People using "Loose" instead of "Lose" drives me mad, Boards is infested with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭Turquoise Hexagon Sun


    PARlance wrote: »
    On route

    I was on route to the event but had to turn back because I left my tablet behind on accident. I could care less because the event started late anyway and didn't loose out on anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Perhaps because primary school teachers use some of the worst grammar I've ever come across. I used to scold my children for their bad grammar and thought they were picking it up from other children but they constantly told me that the teachers said it like that. After a few years I realised they were right. Over time I heard the teachers say things like "I done that" or "He brung it in" plus the deese, dat, dem and does. If you've been trained to teach a language then pronunciation and grammar counts.

    Having correct grammar should be a requirement for graduating and getting a teaching qualification. It doesn't matter how much you understanding maths, geography etc. If you are teaching a class of 30 kids they will pickup your bad grammar.

    If an existing teacher was speaking like this to a class i would consider it a disciplinable offence and something the teacher needed to fix. Just as if they were teaching the incorrect capital city of a country.

    Being able to speak properly has a massive impact on future earning potential of any employee.

    Im not perfectly by any means, but ive got the basics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    is_that_so wrote: »
    First abomination comes from American English usage, like on the weekend and thankfully not frequent. The 2nd one would be accepted as being most correct.

    Americans don’t say “on accident”. Not regularly anyway. I’ve never heard any American say that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,028 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Im not perfectly by any means, but ive got the basics.

    *I'm *perfect *I've

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Penfailed wrote: »
    That's creeping in over here. So is, "I was sat..." instead of, "I was sitting..."

    British people are the worst for that, not Americans.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    But that's what they're thought in collage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,364 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Ax me!

    Say that again and I'll probably feel like doing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,548 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Penfailed wrote: »
    *I'm *perfect *I've

    You know what they say. You will always make a mistake yourself when correcting someones grammar.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,364 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    You know what they say. You will always make a mistake yourself when correcting someone's grammar.

    FTFY ;-)


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