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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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    #332
    weldoninhio
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    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Are 'budget cuts' the reason RTE doesn't have any tv listings for tv3, or 3e?

    Case in point. https://www.rte.ie/entertainment/listings/television/#!blank-hpdv-1529496000000

    They are there :confused:


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    #333
    RabbleRouser2k
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    They are there :confused:

    That's mad, they don't show on my connection at all.


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    #334
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Permabear wrote: »
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    TG4's budget is €32.5 a year.

    Neither do we need RTE competing in the crowded pop music space with 2 FM. That entire station should be privatized.
    2FM doesn't get licence fee money as it's a commercial opperation.


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    #335
    Varik
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    Can RTE go bust, is there any chance for examinership where the fat can be cut or at least brought to light or would the government just bail them out.


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    #336
    fritzelly
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    Varik wrote: »
    Can RTE go bust, is there any chance for examinership where the fat can be cut or at least brought to light or would the government just bail them out.


    You made me laugh


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    #337
    Harry Palmr
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    TG4's budget is €32.5 a year.


    2FM doesn't get licence fee money as it's a commercial opperation.

    2FM received €3.74c of every licence fee in 2016.

    Before Gerry Ryan's death it actually turned a profit, but regardless of that RTE should be compelled to sell it off, it should raise a decent amount in a growing economy.


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    #338
    kneemos
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    TG4's budget is €32.5 a year.


    2FM doesn't get licence fee money as it's a commercial opperation.


    Course it does. It also loses millions.


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    #339
    RabbleRouser2k
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    2FM received €3.74c of every licence fee in 2016.

    Before Gerry Ryan's death it actually turned a profit, but regardless of that RTE should be compelled to sell it off, it should raise a decent amount in a growing economy.

    And before Gay Byrne stepped down from hosting the Late Late show, the licence fee was pretty much frozen-because RTE didn't need it. The money they were making from adverts shown during the Late Late was incredible-literally ask what they wanted, and they got it.

    Gay Byrne steps down-and the ratings, and advertising revenue, from the LLS fell dramatically. I think RTE thought they were sorted when they got 1 million viewers a night on Who wants to be a Millionaire-and then the ratings gradually fell to 300 000 average and it lost its sponsor.

    RTE always seem to put money/ gamble on a 'sure thing' since then-and then it's money wasted.


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    #340
    Idbatterim
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    Say 20,000 homes are built on average for the next few years. 85% compliance rate. The thieving scum are getting more and more each year!


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    #341
    Here we go
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    One of the first to say rte is **** and wouldn't watch it by there showing every game of the World Cup and I hazard a guess rte 2 is on from 12/8 in most houses the past week


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    #342
    Here we go
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    One of the first to say rte is **** and wouldn't watch it by there showing every game of the World Cup and I hazard a guess rte 2 is on from 12/8 in most houses the past week


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    #343
    Idbatterim
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    Here we go wrote: »
    One of the first to say rte is **** and wouldn't watch it by there showing every game of the World Cup and I hazard a guess rte 2 is on from 12/8 in most houses the past week
    Yeah but is that worth e640 over four years?! Make it subscription, the vast majority that watch the RTÉ rubbish are older people who don’t even pay for the privilege!


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    #344
    fritzelly
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    Here we go wrote: »
    One of the first to say rte is **** and wouldn't watch it by there showing every game of the World Cup and I hazard a guess rte 2 is on from 12/8 in most houses the past week

    But how many could be watching it on ITV/BBC - not really that big a scoop for RTE when there are for most other ways to watch it


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    Atlantic Dawn
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    Ten Pin wrote: »
    Any organization that tells ya to "love your orchestras" and have the neck to charge you for doing so, is just taking the piss, big style.

    €11.36 (7.1%) of your annual licence fee goes towards funding the orchestra, a crazy percentage and more than RTE spends on its entire online services. The orchestra is entertainment for the few, not the many, it should be funded outside the licence fee.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/rte-orchestra-licence-fee-3689617-Nov2017/


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    #346
    fritzelly
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    €11.36 (7.1%) of your annual licence fee goes towards funding the orchestra, a crazy percentage and more than RTE spends on its entire online services. The orchestra is entertainment for the few, not the many, it should be funded outside the licence fee.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/rte-orchestra-licence-fee-3689617-Nov2017/

    A very select few - less than 4% of the population (of both orchestras and including all performances) see it and that's assuming there is no one attending a performance more than once! And on top of that in most cases you are paying to go watch them perform

    All for performing arts of all kinds but if they can not be more self sustaining then they are just showing themselves up as being the same as RTE with the attitude ahh well we're getting loads of money for doing nothing


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    #347
    RabbleRouser2k
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    Idbatterim wrote: »
    Yeah but is that worth e640 over four years?! Make it subscription, the vast majority that watch the RTÉ rubbish are older people who don’t even pay for the privilege!

    They've earned that privilege-unlike RTE's code of Omerta
    (not paying I mean).

    Everyone else is using netflix, amazon or youtube-even the rte player is pretty terrible.
    The TV3 player is far superior, and they don't get anywhere near the license fee money rte get.


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    #348
    Atlantic Dawn
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    Also the RTE Orchestra members are allowed claim flat rate expenses by Revenue of €2476 a year, the highest of any profession by far. A nurse is allowed €536 a year, a teacher €518, a plumber €205, what a great little country to live in.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/employee-expenses/flat-rate-expense-allowances/index.aspx

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/documents/flat-rate-expenses.xls


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    #349
    TomOnBoard
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    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Also the RTE Orchestra members are allowed claim flat rate expenses by Revenue of €2476 a year, the highest of any profession by far. A nurse is allowed €536 a year, a teacher €518, a plumber €205, what a great little country to live in.

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/employing-people/employee-expenses/flat-rate-expense-allowances/index.aspx

    https://www.revenue.ie/en/personal-tax-credits-reliefs-and-exemptions/documents/flat-rate-expenses.xls

    Feck sake.. Do you have any idea how much a Stradivarius costs??


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    #350
    kneemos
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    Colm Hayes reackons RTE is slow and bumbling,and progress is stifled by unions and the sheer size of the organisation.


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/radio-novas-colm-hayes-slams-12803297


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    #351
    RabbleRouser2k
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Colm Hayes reackons RTE is slow and bumbling,and progress is stifled by unions and the sheer size of the organisation.


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/radio-novas-colm-hayes-slams-12803297

    I imagine there's some bitterness about how him and Jim Jim were treated like royalty, then treated like paupers.

    I think anyone who saw the Colm and Jim Jim quiz show knows how crappy it was-but it's not not as surprise RTe are in the crapper.


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    #352
    foxy farmer
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    kneemos wrote: »
    Colm Hayes reackons RTE is slow and bumbling,and progress is stifled by unions and the sheer size of the organisation.


    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/radio-novas-colm-hayes-slams-12803297

    He's some fella to talk. He was getting well over 200k when on Colm and JIMjim on 2fm. Jimjim took court case because he was only getting 90k.


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    #353
    fritzelly
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    foxy farmer wrote: »
    Jimjim took court case because he was only getting 90k.

    The horror of only getting 90k for working all those hours


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    #354
    RabbleRouser2k
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    The horror of only getting 90k for working all those hours

    Yeah-whatever happened to Jim Jim?


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    #355
    GhostyMcGhost
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    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Yeah-whatever happened to Jim Jim?

    He was only getting 90k. Ya wouldn’t get out of bed for that now sure


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    #356
    fritzelly
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    RabbleRouser2k wrote: »
    Yeah-whatever happened to Jim Jim?

    Writing for The Sun it seems


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    #357
    mikeym
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    Did anyone ever ring Joe Duffy to say they dont pay for a tv licence and that its a farce?


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    #358
    SEPT 23 1989
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    mikeym wrote: »
    Did anyone ever ring Joe Duffy to say they dont pay for a tv licence and that its a farce?

    Emperor Duffy has a time delay on the calls if anyone dared sail that close to the wind they would get a bad line and he would switch immediately to an ad break advertising RTE's two orchestras

    The old USSR hadn't a patch on this crew


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    #359
    fritzelly
    Registered Users Posts: 17,299 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    mikeym wrote: »
    Did anyone ever ring Joe Duffy to say they dont pay for a tv licence and that its a farce?

    Ahh but sure he's worth a grand an hour to listen to people moaning.

    When will RTE ever get out of this deluded mentality if we don't pay them what they want then someone else will get them
    Helllooo, nobody else wants them. FFS anyone can do Liveline, LLS is a piss poor attempt at entertainment recycling the same ol' ****e of a celebrity circus

    Is there really any job at RTE that needs anyone been paid more than 100/150k a year?

    And don't get me started on O'Callaghan - biggest waste of space on TV, she cannot do political, can't even do presenting tbh. At least Pat Kenny had some cop on with that stuff.


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    #360
    kneemos
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    fritzelly wrote: »
    Ahh but sure he's worth a grand an hour to listen to people moaning.

    When will RTE ever get out of this deluded mentality if we don't pay them what they want then someone else will get them
    Helllooo, nobody else wants them. FFS anyone can do Liveline, LLS is a piss poor attempt at entertainment recycling the same ol' ****e of a celebrity circus

    Is there really any job at RTE that needs anyone been paid more than 100/150k a year?

    And don't get me started on O'Callaghan - biggest waste of space on TV, she cannot do political, can't even do presenting tbh. At least Pat Kenny had some cop on with that stuff.


    Not just saying it,but she is a dire interviewer. Anytime I've seen her glaringly obvious questions get ignored for the ones on her card.
    The constant mmmm does my head in as well.


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    #361
    Atlantic Dawn
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    To be fair Dee only gets €338k a year...
    The RTÉ annual report also lists a total remuneration package for Director General Dee Forbes as €338,000. This includes a salary of €250,000, a car allowance of €25,000 and retirement benefit contributions of €63,000.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2018/0626/973359-rte-annual-report/


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