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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • 22-01-2020 12:57am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭


    this is one to watch methinks, its in the americas now and can be transmitted person to person.
    is this the big plague or even a precursor to it.
    any budding virologist here got some links or info for us?

    Mod warning 19/02/20
    Beasty wrote: »
    OK, time to step in with some mod instructions:

    1. Please interact in a civil manner
    2. Do not tell others what to do, or what to post
    3. If you have a problem with a post report it and leave the modding to the mods

    In terms of thread content:

    4. Treat everything you read here with caution. Anything posted is from an anonymous internet poster. You cannot assume anyone has any "specialist" knowledge whatever they claim
    5. Statistics are important to some (and I personally pay a lot of attention to them), but they are of very little use to anyone who is already caught up in this, or indeed knows of people who are caught up
    6. Terms such as "sinus", "airborne", "aerosol" have little relevance at this time in this jurisdiction. Ultimately though if cases are discovered in Ireland please pay attention to the relevant authorities and what they advise/recommend, and not some randomer(s) on the internet

    All the above is me talking as a complete layman on the subject. Like everything in this thread do not treat it as chapter and verse, beyond paying attention to items 1-3 above

    Any questions please PM me - do not try and dissect this post in-thread

    Warning added 24/02/20
    Last time it was a "suggestion"/request

    Now it's an instruction

    Stop all the tit for tat stuff on the stats. None of us are in full possession of the facts and none of us can draw any "definitive" conclusions. Bottom line. It's serious. Not serious in Ireland at this stage, but may become so. Anyone caught up in this is not going to take much solace from any stats however they are complied

    Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in-thread


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Watch out for them canvassers. Keep the door bolted, and the attack dog on standby.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    might put a sign on gate "beware of inflection (sic)"
    they'll dimly presume something diseasey


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    LaFuton wrote: »
    might put a sign on gate "beware of inflection (sic)"
    they'll dimly presume something diseasey

    Especially that of a Cavan origin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I hear Madagascar has shut down all its ports.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    Especially that of a Cavan origin.

    with Meathesque mutation


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    KungPao wrote: »
    I hear Madagascar has shut down all its ports.

    really? wow. we are not gonna hear much about this on rte.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    KungPao wrote: »
    I hear Madagascar has shut down all its ports.

    It’s a Pandemic (2)!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,781 ✭✭✭KungPao


    LaFuton wrote: »
    really? wow. we are not gonna hear much about this on rte.

    The mainstream media won’t carry this. Governments around the world now trying to limit the panic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    cases in thailand and japan


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 784 ✭✭✭LaFuton


    KungPao wrote: »
    The mainstream media won’t carry this. Governments around the world now trying to limit the panic.

    just saw on RT chinese president jingping said on their national tv that it is very serious.

    they're not burying or misdirecting it


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Borgo


    Stick to the Corona Light sure ye be grand


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Beeping Kitchen Appliances


    Every few years we have a terrifying, apocalyptic pandemic. Will always turn out to be nothing (until it turns out to be something)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    I knew that group The Coronas were up to no good. :D:D

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    The WHO are set to meet later today and discuss it (does not curently advise travel restrictions at this time {not sure why}).

    This emergency meeting on Wednesday will discuss whether the virus constitutes a public-health emergency, and whether any further steps are needed to prevent it from becoming a global epidemic.
    Likely a bit too late for that.

    China's own CDC folks want people to stay in Wuhan, to prevent 2019-ncov spreading further.
    Tricky thing is, the Chinese lunar new year is underway (massive travel demands).
    Bear in mind LHR has something like x3 daily 18hr direct flights to Wuhan.

    On the plus side some say it's not as bad as SARS, which itself wasn't that bad on the grand scheme of things.
    Anyway off to dust off the UVC 100w headtorch to blast the virus to bits, upon any near contact.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    On the plus side some say it's not as bad as SARS, which itself wasn't that bad on the grand scheme of things.
    Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally. It's important that the epidemiologists watch it carefully and take their preventative measures, but the sky isn't falling just yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Borgo wrote: »
    Stick to the Corona Light sure ye be grand
    the amount of Guinness drinkers infected: nil

    stats dont lie


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mikhail wrote: »
    Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally. It's important that the epidemiologists watch it carefully and take their preventative measures, but the sky isn't falling just yet.

    Indeed SARS only took out 800 and was headline news for years.
    Still enough of a concern for WHO to have a get together later today.
    Pneumonia can effect young healthy people as well as the infirm.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    mikhail wrote: »
    Flu kills 100 or so people in Ireland annually. This thing has killed three people globally.

    it's killed 6, so far. and its only just started


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 51 ✭✭Beeping Kitchen Appliances


    The Who and the Coronas. Anyone else confirmed yet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭mikhail


    it's killed 6, so far. and its only just started
    Wow. Six people. I suspect my grandmother's cooking killed more. There are 11.08 million people in Wuhan. Well, 11.079994 now. Let's all panic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    mikhail wrote: »
    Wow. Six people. I suspect my grandmother's cooking killed more. There are 11.08 million people in Wuhan. Well, 11.079994 now. Let's all panic.
    Only a few hundred (so far) have been infected so far (according to officals there).

    If it causes pneumonia, and then doesn't respond to antibiotic treatment (as is the case currently), then in terms of mortality (like SARS) may kill 10% of individuals who contract it.

    SARS infected about 8,000 and killed 800. Any 'panic' from Wuhan's side (not here), and embargo on flights there-from, might not be a bad thing at all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Every few years we have a terrifying, apocalyptic pandemic. Will always turn out to be nothing (until it turns out to be something)

    Its been over 100 years since the Spanish flu came back with the soldiers after World War One.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Evolution of Swine Influenza A/H1N1(2009) in Canada

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    When you fly into Japan or Korea, they have sophisticated passenger temperature screening devices that one walks through immediately after dismembarkment for flights from high-risk countries. Indeed, the case in Korea was picked up at the airport and the individual was quarantined. They've had such systems since SARS and countries like these should be ok with controlling the spread.

    Chinese New year is starting this week, hundreds of millions of Chinese traveling at home to abroad. If the government had any sense, they'd shut-down travel out of Wuhan; but I doubt they will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    mikhail wrote: »
    Let's all panic.

    Meanwhile fund and Asset managers are shorting invents while Deutsche Bank are telling you there are no end to the good times in sight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    The WHO are set to meet later today and discuss it (does not curently advise travel restrictions at this time {not sure why}).

    I'm gonna make a judgement call here... but any band that coined the lyrics "hope I die before I get old" probably doesn't have the best interests of every demographic covered on this one! ;)

    I would defo give this bad boy to the rolling stones instead... those chaps don't look like they're ever going to die tbh! Give old mick a call instead... he'll know what to do! :pac:

    I'll get me coat... :P


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,096 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    LaFuton wrote: »
    any budding virologist here got some links or info for us?

    Follow @HelenBranswell on twitter.


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