Extinction Rebellion Ireland

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Boardman, the 21 year old Middle Class "Socialist", is one of the main figureheads of ER in the UK.

He said we should only use planes for emergencies....whilst himself jetting off on Skiing trips and tourist trips to places like Pisa.

And people wonder why we can't take these clowns seriously?

The protest in Cork was organised by an 18 year old and she thinks the drought last year is positive proof of man made climate change. I pointed it out to her that we had worse droughts before her lifetime and that a drought is weather not climate but she still can’t grasp it.

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Reading this thread is mental

I thought not believing Climate Change existed was just something clowns like Donald Trump or Michael Healy Ray said every so often to get attention. I didn't realise scores of these muppets actually existed

People will believe what they want. It's not so much whether anyone agrees with the current zeitgeist or otherwise, but that those leading the protests are little more than naive idealists with little grasp of the reality of global problems.

Woke Hogan wrote: »

That's it exactly.

As per usual this thread is full of the usual brainless comments from the "ordineddy daycent worrikers" sneering at anyone genuinely trying to make a difference. Sitting there in their cocoon of nescience, content everything will be alright so long as they have their ****e three bedroomed house, a Ford Focus and tablets for their fat overindulged kids.

Climate change is happening and our species is racing towards extinction. Ignorance will not be bliss when it catches up and your grandchildren will be fleeing refugees from landwars or ****ting their ****ing guts out from all of the plastic in the oceans.

We need protests. We need to disrupt traffic and the Luas. We need to act now or the human species will be a memory in a few centuries. We need blood on the streets.

Calm down there horse.

Spark up a joss stick or something before your BP goes into the red.

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

How will the trustfarian crusties get to Bali, Peru, Thailand etc to get stoned if flying is banned?

The stuff grows here too

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Nuclear didn't replace coal.

Cheap gas and environmental regulations are what's wiping coal out.

Only one one coal plant has opened in the US since 2015. It's in Alaska. It's tiny, less than 2% the size of Moneypoint.

A decade ago coal used to provide nearly 45% of the US's electricity , now it's 25% So huge reduction in carbon emissions.

They are using gas instead which produces methane.

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Alt right propaganda "Magazine" funded by the Koch Brothers attempts takedown piece on teenage girl who is getting attention for climate action.
Quelle surprise.

Hadn't read that - but I did came across a piece she talked about herself not that long ago. She is evidently a young impressionable teenager who acknowledges that her aspergers  and obsessive and compulsive disorder means that she has a tenancy to focus selectively on specific ideas to the exclusion of practically everything.

At just 11 years of age the poor kid was diagnosed with depression and amongst other things she stopped eating when she became fixated upon the whole idea of the end of the world. Ffs this was a young kid who had become so obsessed with the the doomsday hysterics of those telling her the world was about to end that she began self harming through not eating and even stopped attending school

And was she helped? Was she heck. The parents who are certainly wealthy and comfortably off and are themselves heavily invested in the whole morass of deep ecology - unwittingly enabled the child to become even more obsessed with these ideas.

Btw it's not the first time in history that young impressionable children of this age have developed similar obsessions and become terrified of the world around them. During the recent cold war up to and including the 1980s- young children and teenagers faced the terror and uncertainty of a world which could have been destroyed in a minute by superpowers at the push of a button. Their lives were lived under the shadow of the total obliteration of all life on the planet and civilisation as we knew it.

The generation before that - some young kids who were brought up on a diet of ultra religous beliefs and some believed they saw the Virgin Mary who told them that the world was to end because of 'sin' and that they had to do something to help stop it. Their lives were also deeply affected by their beliefs and the notoriety it brought them.

The point is - she is a kid. A young intelligent but highly impressionable kid who is been held up by some as some near Joan of Arc figure. I get it that she's scared by the doomsday stories she's been brought up on. I don't get it that the kid is being made into a figure head by others including at least one individual who have already tried to make her the symbol of a mass marketing campaign. I personally find the whole cult which has developed around her to be truely deeply unsettling.

gozunda wrote: »

Hadn't read that - but I did came across a piece she wrote about herself not that long ago. She is evidently a young impressionable teenager who acknowledges that her aspergers  and obsessive and compulsive disorder means that she has a tenancy to focus selectively on specific ideas to the exclusion of practically everything.

At just 11 years of age the poor kid was diagnosed with depression and amongst other things she stopped eating when she became fixated upon the whole idea of the end of the world. Ffs this was a young kid who had become so obsessed with the the doomsday hysterics of those telling her the world was about to end that she began self harming through not eating and even stopped attending school

And was she helped? Was she heck. The parents who are certainly wealthy and comfortably off and are themselves heavily invested in the whole morass of deep ecology - unwittingly enabled the child to become even more obsessed with these ideas.

Btw it's not the first time in history that young impressionable children of this age have developed similar obsessions and become terrified of the world around them. During the recent cold war up to and including the 1980s- young children and teenagers faced the terror and uncertainty of a world which could have been destroyed in a minute by superpowers at the push of a button. Their lives were lived under the shadow of the total obliteration of all life on the planet and civilisation as we knew it.

The generation before that - some young kids who were brought up on a diet of ultra religous beliefs and some believed they saw the Virgin Mary who told them that the world was to end brcause of sin and that they had to do something to help stop it. Their lives were also deeply affected by their beliefs and the notoriety it brought them.

The point is - she is a kid. A young intelligent but highly impressionable kid who is been held up by some as some near Joan of Arc figure. I get it that she's scared by the doomsday stories she's been brought up on. I don't get it that the kid is being made into a figure head by others including at least one individual who have already tried to make her the symbol of a mass marketing campaign. I personally find the whole cult which has developed around her to be truely deeply unsettling.

Therein lies the problem. I like her a lot and admire what she's attempting to do but as it stands her protests can do little. She is an absolute godsend to hardened activists and movements around combating change, especially in how open she is to embracing all of them.

As for the movement, well, they are making absurd and impossible demands and patience will wear very thin, very quickly, for their flop on the road protests and playing with glue. It also attracts the usual suspects to their protests, some of whom have their very own agenda.

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

Attack the child. Attack the child!

Interesting thread. Alot of feelings on show.

Who's attacking the child?

rockmongrel wrote: »

Reading this thread makes me feel so sick and depressed. We truly are doomed.

Do you want to expand on that "essay"?

rockmongrel wrote: »

The denialism, the rabid anti-enviromentalist rhetoric, the hatred towards activists, the head in the ground anti-scientific attitude flying in the face of all evidence...

Just makes me feel depressed and sorry for us as a society and species.

Activists are their own worst enemies because they have a tendency toward self-righteousness. Protests, regardless of the purpose, invariably attract all kinds of loopers and the anti-anything brigade. Slowly and steadily, with dialogue and requisite actions is how we will move forward in it.

WinnyThePoo wrote: »

To be fair after hours doesn't represent Irish society as a whole. Its worth remembering that reading this thread.

Are you trying to say the majority of Irish society are eco evangelists? Doesn’t look like it to me with all the consumerism.

rockmongrel wrote:

Just makes me feel depressed and sorry for us as a society and species.

I just ignore these opinions, you ll never convince deniers, thankfully there's enough momentum now for action

Matt Barrett wrote:

An example of academic twaddle if there ever was one. Worse case scenario we create a better environment not dependent on fossil fuels. We must stop the madness! Did he take into account people, who aren't scientists, trusting the scientific community? I mean if you want financial advice you go to a financial expert not study finance yourself. I can safely say I've never been to space but i I do go I'l be sure to pack a helmet.

The same financial experts that said house prices never fall!