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French author, 50, says he's incapable of loving a woman of 50

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  • #102
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Candie wrote: »
    Plenty of people in the age group he's attracted to wouldn't be remotely interested in a guy as old or older than their dad.


    How dare you, that's Captain Black! :P


    capblack.jpg


  • #103
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,987 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Why are people getting upset about someone expressing an opinion?
    His own personal opinion?

    If this offends anyone, then they really need to take a good look at themselves.


  • #104
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    He's within his rights to be a bit of a dickhead.

    Just like young women are within their rights to want to be with him or not.

    Non story.

    I don't agree with him (as in that women that age are not attractive or cruising women half his age), and he seems a bit of a bellend, but it's relatively harmless and his business and at least he's being upfront about it.


  • #105
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    He's within his rights to be a bit of a dickhead.

    Just like young women are within their rights to want to be with him or not.

    Non story.

    I don't agree with him (as in that women that age are not attractive or cruising women half his age), and he seems a bit of a bellend, but it's relatively harmless and his business and at least he's being upfront about it.

    And as controversial French authors goes he is not even fit to lick the shoes of Michel Houllebecq. Now there's a creepy fecker.


  • #106
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    To be fair, I'd say most older women don't give a fcuk what he thinks of them.


  • #107
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    DontThankMe wrote: »
    Have to agree with him when he says:

    “I prefer younger women’s bodies, that’s all. End of. The body of a 25-year-old woman is extraordinary. The body of a woman of 50 is not extraordinary at all,”

    I'd rather be feeling some nice melons compared to some prunes.

    25 not a bit old for you?


  • #108
    Calina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    To be fair, I'd say most older women don't give a fcuk what he thinks of them.

    When the supply of 25 year olds has dried up, there wont be a supply of same age either...


  • #109
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    retro:electro wrote: »
    25 not a bit old for you?

    Meheheheh! :pac:


  • #110
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,357 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    "nagging aul wans"
    "Battle-axes"
    "Aul bags"
    "Chattering aul wans"

    Yay, another thread to enable the woman haters to vent. Hasn't been one of those in a while actually :rolleyes:

    Some 50 year olds look good, some don't. Some 25 year olds look good,some don't. I don't think one man's personal preference should be international news.


  • #111
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    To be fair, if you're a 50 year guy that thinks that, outside the very occasional situation or other factors like wealth and fame, women half your age are going to routinely find you attractive, you're a bit soft in the head.


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  • #112
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    andekwarhola wrote: »
    To be fair, if you're a 50 year guy that thinks that, outside the very occasional situation or other factors like wealth and fame, women half your age are going to routinely find you attractive, you're a bit soft in the head.

    He’s sorta famous, right?


  • #113
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    "nagging aul wans"
    "Battle-axes"
    "Aul bags"
    "Chattering aul wans"

    Yay, another thread to enable the woman haters to vent. Hasn't been one of those in a while actually :rolleyes:

    Some 50 year olds look good, some don't. Some 25 year olds look good,some don't. I don't think one man's personal preference should be international news.

    It's not woman hating, it's just pointing out facts.

    Men love fast cars and young women just as women love shopping and soap operas.

    It's just how we are as people and there's nothing wrong with it.


  • #114
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    A 50 year old probably wouldn't put up with him


  • #115
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    DS86DS wrote: »
    It's not woman hating, it's just pointing out facts.

    Men love fast cars and young women just as women love shopping and soap operas.

    It's just how we are as people and there's nothing wrong with it.

    Feck. I hate shopping and soap operas. :( My life seems meaningless now. :(:(:(


  • #116
    utyh2ikcq9z76b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭utyh2ikcq9z76b


    Imagine the outrage if a woman said she only likes tall guys


  • #117
    andekwarhola
    Registered Users Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    A 50 year old probably wouldn't put up with him

    Probably have her own money and opinions. Not sure that'd fly with him by the sounds of it :D


  • #118
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Gemma Yummy Wedding wrote: »
    Imagine the outrage if a woman said she only likes tall guys

    There'd be no outrage. Women say that all the time.


  • #119
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    A 50 year old probably wouldn't put up with him

    That sounds a bit like

    "You can't fire me because I quit"


  • #120
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    DS86DS wrote: »
    He's right. Good on him if in his 50s he can get a 25 year old beauty.

    Who wants a nagging Aul wan when you can get a woman in her prime.
    Yes, "aul wan" = automatically nagging.

    Biology attracts men to younger women. Whether they actually end up with them is another story, and people are usually in relationships with those around the same age. As said, Melania Trump is always cited, when it suits, as a beautiful younger woman, even though she's nearly 49. And so what if Donald is nearly 73? She's still an "auld one". So "younger woman" is relative. And it's not like there is just either 25 or 50. And men seem to forget they age too, and a 60-year-old man would be delighted to be dating a 40-year-old woman and he wouldn't even be able to relate to a 25-year-old. Also these older men who get much younger women tend to be really rich or unusually good-looking and fit. You're kidding yourself if you think it's a standard thing for "dad" dudes to get together with women in their 20s.

    But yeah anyway biology does attract men physically to younger women and that's totally fair enough - really stupid of those women to get angered by one man saying he wouldn't be attracted to them. He is only speaking for himself, and even though many other men feel the same way, he did still just voice his honest opinion and shouldn't be pilloried for it.

    But some guys here have to make derogatory remarks about women for ageing or being middle-aged. I don't get what it does for them - don't they have mothers, grandmothers, aunties. Same lads tend to be the "muslims have a terrible attitude towards women" folks too. Crappy attitude towards women is terrible! (When it suits).


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  • #121
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Clementine Echoing Squalor wrote: »
    Yes, "aul wan" = automatically nagging.

    Biology attracts men to younger women. Whether they actually end up with them is another story, and people are usually in relationships with those around the same age. As said, Melania Trump is always cited, when it suits, as a beautiful younger woman, even though she's nearly 49. And so what if Donald is nearly 73? She's still an "auld one". So "younger woman" is relative. And it's not like there is just either 25 or 50. And men seem to forget they age too, and a 60-year-old man would be delighted to be dating a 40-year-old woman and he wouldn't even be able to relate to a 25-year-old. Also these older men who get much younger women tend to be really rich or unusually good-looking and fit. You're kidding yourself if you think it's a standard thing for "dad" dudes to get together with women in their 20s.

    But yeah anyway biology does attract men physically to younger women and that's totally fair enough - really stupid of those women to get angered by one man saying he wouldn't be attracted to them. He is only speaking for himself, and even though many other men feel the same way, he did still just voice his honest opinion and shouldn't be pilloried for it.

    But some guys here have to make derogatory remarks about women for ageing or being middle-aged. I don't get what it does for them - don't they have mothers, grandmothers, aunties. Same lads tend to be the "muslims have a terrible attitude towards women" folks too. Crappy attitude towards women is terrible! (When it suits).

    It's basic evolutionary psychology that men want and prefer younger women. If he can amass a good lifestyle he will get young women clamouring to him.

    All of this started with angry feminists who can't accept evolutionary fact and the things that make us human.


  • #122
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    DS86DS wrote: »
    It's basic evolutionary psychology that men want and prefer younger women. If he can amass a good lifestyle he will get young women clamouring to him.

    All of this started with angry feminists who can't accept evolutionary fact and the things that make us human.
    Didn't dispute it. Indeed acknowledged it


    What's with the derogatory comments towards women just for having the cheek to age though, fam?


  • #123
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,264 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    DS86DS wrote: »
    It's basic evolutionary psychology that men want and prefer younger women.


    If it's evolution though, after all these years of it not happening for oul' lads, should it not be dying out? Like little toes and wisdom teeth?


  • #124
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Clementine Echoing Squalor wrote: »
    Didn't dispute it. Indeed acknowledged it


    What's with the derogatory comments towards women just for having the cheek to age though, fam?

    I don't have a problem with aging women. I just don't think it's anybody's business, including feminists if a man wants a young woman in her 20s with a nice chest, bum and skin....as opposed to an old sagging woman.

    It's basic evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology at work .


  • #125
    eviltwin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    DS86DS wrote: »
    I don't have a problem with aging women. I just don't think it's anybody's business, including feminists if a man wants a young woman in her 20s with a nice chest, bum and skin....as opposed to an old sagging woman.

    It's basic evolutionary biology and evolutionary psychology at work .

    I don't think the feminists give a sh1t to be honest


  • #126
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Clementine Echoing Squalor wrote: »
    But some guys here have to make derogatory remarks about women for ageing or being middle-aged. I don't get what it does for them - don't they have mothers, grandmothers, aunties. Same lads tend to be the "muslims have a terrible attitude towards women" folks too. Crappy attitude towards women is terrible! (When it suits).

    Well, if it's any consolation such posters do seem to be in the minority, if the Beautiful Women thread is anything to go by at least, as there's been a ton of women who are over 50 posted in that thread and can't recall any comments deriding a user for posting them.

    On the contrary in fact as my two most thanked posts in that thread were women over 50: (1, 2) and at a guess I'd say the woman who has been posted the most has been Monica Bellucci, who is also 50+.


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  • #127
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Well, if it's any consolation such posters do seem to be in the minority, if the Beautiful Women thread is anything to go by at least, as there's been a ton of women who are over 50 posted in that thread and can't recall any comments deriding a user for posting them.

    On the contrary in fact as my two most thanked posts in that thread were women over 50: (1, 2) and at a guess I'd say the woman who has been posted the most has been Monica Bellucci, who is also 50+.

    Plastic surgery and photoshop aren't fooling anybody.

    But if one has a thing for grandmother age women then that's their right too.


  • #128
    Zorya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭Zorya


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I'd say the woman who has been posted the most has been Monica Bellucci, who is also 50+.


    Now she is HOT!

    Her and Juliette Binoche.

    Man. They are nice looking women.


  • #129
    Daisy78
    Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭Daisy78


    Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »
    He’s in fairly good nick for 50.

    God no.


  • #130
    myshirt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I always proposed that when your wife turns 50 it is only fair and right that you trade her in for two 25 year olds.


  • #131
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    Baron de Charlus wrote: »
    Hands up who's heard of Yann Moix before today?

    Hands up who's heard of him now?

    I'd say Monsiour Moix is feeling very pleased with his day's work.

    This is not possible when one needs to post a response.


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  • #132
    Lotus Flower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭Lotus Flower


    Meh, he likes what he likes, let him at it. Never even heard of the guy until now

    I do hate seeing "auld wan", "battleaxe" and such terms being bandied about though, getting older is a privilege, not a stick to beat others with


  • #133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Well, if it's any consolation such posters do seem to be in the minority, if the Beautiful Women thread is anything to go by at least, as there's been a ton of women who are over 50 posted in that thread and can't recall any comments deriding a user for posting them.

    On the contrary in fact as my two most thanked posts in that thread were women over 50: (1, 2) and at a guess I'd say the woman who has been posted the most has been Monica Bellucci, who is also 50+.

    your no.1 Diane Lane was very sexy in the movie Unfaithful (she was about 37 then) but time has unfortunately caught up with her since then.


  • #134
    Mrsmum
    Registered Users Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Mrsmum


    It's really lucky for men of 50 that women of 50 like being with people of their own generation because most 25 year olds don't really want to date their dad's friends unless he is filthy rich and therefore has more to offer than conversation about olden days.


  • #135
    begbysback
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    I believe nature fcuked up, we should really be born old and crinkley, then get progressively younger and healthier.


  • #136
    KevinCavan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    There are women who prefer younger men and wouldn’t go out with their own age, nobody would be attack them. Demi Moore has gone out with at least one man half her age. Cheryl Cole (or whatever her surname is this week), clearly marries younger men. These women don’t rate the bodies of men their own age. But for a man to say he prefers a younger less saggy body is outrageous?


  • #137
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Daisy78 wrote: »
    God no.

    I’d say he has the college going wans chasing all over him.


  • #138
    Sonic Youth
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 193 ✭✭Sonic Youth


    Fully agree with him, not like I'm going to suddenly stop finding 20 year olds hot when I'm 50.

    Also this shows what a protestant/puritanical thing feminism is. He'd never get away with saying that in Sweden or Britan or America.


  • #139
    Fann Linn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    Mrsmum wrote: »
    It's really lucky for men of 50 that women of 50 like being with people of their own generation because most 25 year olds don't really want to date their dad's friends unless he is filthy rich and therefore has more to offer than conversation about olden days.


    Correct. More likely to meet some sorta Patricia Arquette from Dannamora prison break than some nubile 20 year old stunner.


  • #140
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    KevinCavan wrote: »
    There are women who prefer younger men and wouldn’t go out with their own age, nobody would be attack them. Demi Moore has gone out with at least one man half her age. Cheryl Cole (or whatever her surname is this week), clearly marries younger men. These women don’t rate the bodies of men their own age. But for a man to say he prefers a younger less saggy body is outrageous?

    It's feminist double standards.


  • #141
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    Well, if it's any consolation such posters do seem to be in the minority, if the Beautiful Women thread is anything to go by at least, as there's been a ton of women who are over 50 posted in that thread and can't recall any comments deriding a user for posting them.

    On the contrary in fact as my two most thanked posts in that thread were women over 50: (1, 2) and at a guess I'd say the woman who has been posted the most has been Monica Bellucci, who is also 50+.
    Oh jeez I don't mind who men fancy - just no need for the derogatory language towards women for nothing other than not being young. An "auld one" automatically being a battleaxe or a bag or sagging or her boobs being prunes.

    There's non stop bringing up feminists - to an obsessive degree. Forget feminists and consider women in general.


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  • #142
    jmayo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,186 ✭✭✭✭jmayo


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    Funny how people keep bringing up Trump and melania as an example of an older man with a hot way out of his league younger wife. Sure she's almost 50 herself. Suppose he'll be due an upgrade as soon as she hits the big 5-0 as she'll be consigned to the scrap heap immediately.

    Nevermind Trump what about these lads...

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    Now what do all the lads have in common ?

    I am not allowed discuss …



  • #143
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Clementine Echoing Squalor wrote: »
    Oh jeez I don't mind who men fancy - just no need for the derogatory language towards women for nothing other than not being young. An "auld one" automatically being a battleaxe or a bag or sagging or her boobs being prunes.

    I agree but what I was saying was that in the Beautiful Women thread, which is touching almost 8000 posts at this stage, I don't think I ever seen any derogatory comments being made about older women and there were many opportunities for such given how often women over 50 were posted.

    Anyway, seems this guy is getting a fair old scolding:
    It’s worth noting here that Moix is 50 himself, and is – how can we put this kindly – not exactly George Clooney in a Nespresso advert. As if on a mission to be as offensive as possible, he went on to clarify that he only dates Asian women, anyway.

    Fortunately, for every misogynistic, ageist a**e of a man, there are plenty of hilarious women waiting to take him down a peg or two on the internet.


  • #144
    0cp71eyxkb94qf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 198 ✭✭0cp71eyxkb94qf


    Mrsmum wrote: »
    It's really lucky for men of 50 that women of 50 like being with people of their own generation because most 25 year olds don't really want to date their dad's friends unless he is filthy rich and therefore has more to offer than conversation about olden days.

    Being a gold-digger= ok
    Liking younger women: grr sexism rabble rabble rabble


  • #145
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Niko Thousands Paperboy wrote: »
    Being a gold-digger= ok
    Liking younger women: grr sexism rabble rabble rabble
    Not that she said that at all.


  • #146
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    2 things.

    1. I think its definitely possible to love a woman over 50. Even I will be able to do that eventually, and I'm quite superficial. Theres more than physicality to life. At some point physicality can't be central anymore.

    Thats the nice bit, done.

    2. But I can't help but enjoy it when post-wall women finally get to understand how awkward young guys feel and get treated.

    Having been a young man, like the majority I was treated by women more or less like a horrible smell/disease.

    Attractive women generally treat young men on a 'you're total scum' first basis.

    Well now its their turn to be left without the time of day.


    (yes I said post wall, yes it makes me happy, yes most young guys, no I washed regularly)

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



  • #147
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Outlaw Pete wrote: »
    I agree but what I was saying was that in the Beautiful Women thread, which is touching almost 8000 posts at this stage, I don't think I ever seen any derogatory comments being made about older women and there were many opportunities for such given how often women over 50 were posted.

    Anyway, seems this guy is getting a fair old scolding:
    Cringe. Those kinda women are often as hilarious as a tooth pulling.

    I get women being annoyed at derogatory comments re ageing (some of which comes from other women) but how insecure do you have to be to get so bothered by one random dude's personal preference. And of course it's ok to be insulting to him. Also I fail to see how his view is misogynistic.


  • #148
    DS86DS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 691 ✭✭✭DS86DS


    greencap wrote: »
    2 things.

    1. I think its definitely possible to love a woman over 50. Even I will be able to do that eventually, and I'm quite superficial. Theres more than physicality to life. At some point physicality can't be central anymore.

    Thats the nice bit, done.

    2. But I can't help but enjoy it when post-wall women finally get to understand how awkward young guys feel and get treated.

    Having been a young man, like the majority I was treated by women more or less like a horrible smell/disease.

    Attractive women generally treat young men on a 'you're total scum' first basis.

    Well now its their turn to be left without the time of day.


    (yes I said post wall, yes it makes me happy, yes most young guys, no I washed regularly)

    What's ironic is that a lot of the old biddies giving out about men on chatterbox shows who have successfully got a younger women, is that they probably turned him down when he was younger but were too drunk to remember it.

    He's a man and he's happy with his life and his young partner, and because of this he is hated by feminists for it.


  • #149
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Clementine Echoing Squalor wrote: »
    Also I fail to see how his view is misogynistic.

    Yeah, would be like guys saying Jordan was being misandric here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx78WPpaeRc


    Or Kim here:

    quote-i-prefer-younger-men-in-some-ways-they-are-much-more-open-to-a-woman-being-stronger-kim-cattrall-5-11-49.jpg


  • #150
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    greencap wrote: »
    2 things.

    1. I think its definitely possible to love a woman over 50. Even I will be able to do that eventually, and I'm quite superficial. Theres more than physicality to life. At some point physicality can't be central anymore.

    Thats the nice bit, done.

    2. But I can't help but enjoy it when post-wall women finally get to understand how awkward young guys feel and get treated.

    Having been a young man, like the majority I was treated by women more or less like a horrible smell/disease.

    Attractive women generally treat young men on a 'you're total scum' first basis.

    Well now its their turn to be left without the time of day.


    (yes I said post wall, yes it makes me happy, yes most young guys, no I washed regularly)
    DS86DS wrote: »
    What's ironic is that a lot of the old biddies giving out about men on chatterbox shows who have successfully got a younger women, is that they probably turned him down when he was younger but were too drunk to remember it.

    He's a man and he's happy with his life and his young partner, and because of this he is hated by feminists for it.
    Ye sound as bad as the man haters. Pair of ye in it.


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  • #151
    castletownman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,496 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    I wonder how many of these outraged feminists read chick lit novels where the story is older woman having an affair with a far, younger man? Lap it up in the thousands too.


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