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shanew · 2016-08-30 15:04:03

some interesting news re Civil records from Irish Genealogy News http://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2016/08/onlnine-launch-irish-birth-marriage.html

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#602 19-10-2018 1:33pm

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This project should be used as an example when teaching IT students in college.
It doesn't matter how well you've delivered the first 95% of the work.
If you fail to deliver the final 5% and treat the users with disdain, then your project will rightly be considered a failure.

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#603 19-10-2018 1:37pm

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Scotland's private sector (robbery priced) site can switch in new records on NYD every year. Have handed them their pieces of silver to get some a few early Januaries. Anyone with basic database development experience could work out how to do it

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#604 19-10-2018 8:20pm

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Wasn't it said that just one person is involved in transcription on the site? I'd love to sit him/her down with a pot of tea and say 'look, can I help you iron some wrinkles out or at least type irrup for ya please?'

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#605 19-10-2018 8:23pm

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We know they have the data for the years to be added, as it was there before - it should take minutes to re-add it.

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#606 19-10-2018 8:24pm

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Then its just someone nervous about data protection.

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#607 19-10-2018 8:49pm

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Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Wasn't it said that just one person is involved in transcription on the site?

Is that one person not just in relation to the correction of errors?

Jellybaby1 wrote: »

Then its just someone nervous about data protection.

Wouldn't have thought there'd be a data protection issue as in the main we're talking about 19th century records for a jurisdiction that no longer exists.

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#608 19-10-2018 9:19pm

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One person is working on the submitted census corrections - different project.

There is one person managing this civil records project, as far as I know, but it's not his only job.

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#609 19-10-2018 10:14pm

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Excuse the French, but it's embedded in the pic.

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#610 19-10-2018 11:57pm

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pinkypinky wrote: »

One person is working on the submitted census corrections - different project.

Thtat's John Grenham - I wasn't thinking of him.

There is one person managing this civil records project, as far as I know, but it's not his only job.

But that one person surely isn't transcribing thousands of birth, marriage and death records? Wasn't that farmed out to India?

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#611 20-10-2018 12:26am

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I don't actually know how many people, if any are working on transcriptions. Will see if I can find anything out through industry contacts.

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#612 11-11-2018 4:51pm

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Any updates on the "November or thereabouts " records being uploaded ?!

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#613 11-11-2018 5:12pm

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Cyrus T Buford wrote: »

Any updates on the "November or thereabouts " records being uploaded ?!

November - which year?

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#614 11-11-2018 5:50pm

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pedroeibar1 wrote: »

November - which year?

I thing he is on about the 1917/1918 births
1942/1943 marriages
1967/1968 deaths

It was said at some point that they hoped to have them ready for November 2018.

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#615 11-11-2018 8:54pm

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Kanadams123, I think pedroeibar1 was speaking tongue-in-cheek as in.. they said November or thereabouts but didn't specify November of which year

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#616 11-11-2018 10:07pm

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Oh haha! I understand!

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#617 11-11-2018 11:36pm

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Claire Santry's latest post on the subject was not encouraging.

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#618 12-11-2018 8:36pm

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Ugh ! I dont understand why the "top up" years havnt been added .
As someone here already said , as they were online before, they should be available at a click!

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#619 13-11-2018 12:05am

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Well, feel free to email them and moan. The civil service will always do things in their own time.

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#620 06-12-2018 5:25pm

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Anything stirring?

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#621 06-12-2018 5:35pm

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Nothing - not even a mouse.

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#622 06-12-2018 6:26pm

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Ah, gee, you beat me to it Hermy.

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#623 06-12-2018 11:08pm

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Ah now!

I might have to lock this thread to stop blood pressure rises.

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#624 10-12-2018 11:45am

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GRO site down this morning.

Update:
https://www.irishgenealogynews.com/2018/12/stay-calm-irishgenealogyie-has.html

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#625 13-12-2018 4:05pm

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BowWow wrote: »

GRO site down this morning.

Down again for me.

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#626 13-12-2018 4:46pm

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No problem for me.

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#627 13-12-2018 4:49pm

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Working for me

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#628 13-12-2018 10:57pm

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Ahh, got excited there for a minute, thought they might be uploading the next batch of records, the wait continues.....

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#629 14-12-2018 1:22am

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They're teasing us!

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#630 14-12-2018 10:59am

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Not working for me right now.

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#631 14-12-2018 11:11am

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The main civil records page is working:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/civil-search.jsp

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#632 11-01-2019 4:04pm

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An update of sorts...

From irishgenealogy.ie

Update to the Civil Records

Published: Friday, 11 January 2019 11:13

We are pleased to advise that in early 2019, an additional 2 years of records of births, marriages and deaths will be added to the www.irishgenealogy.ie website. The marriage Index data along with additional images will also be updated for the years 1864-1869 inclusive.

The years covered by the release of the historic records of Births, Marriages and Deaths after this update will be:

Births: 1864 to 1918

Marriages: 1864* to 1943

Deaths: 1878* to 1968

* The General Register Office will continue to work on updating further records of Marriages dating back to 1845 and Deaths dating back to 1864. These will be included in future updates to the records available on the website.

The General Register Office is dealing with the feedback on the records – where records required correction this will be included in this updated release. Further details of this release will be confirmed early in 2019.

So the promised delivery of all absent records by November has been well and truly kicked to touch.

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#633 11-01-2019 4:16pm

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Disappointed .... I am interested in 1869 death but I suppose I could get self to Werburgh Street and pay up!

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#634 11-01-2019 4:23pm

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Some good news is better than no good news. But it's those early deaths that are so useful in taking us back into the 1700s, if the person was elderly when they died.

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#635 11-01-2019 4:30pm

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Pleased to hear this, even if it's not what was promised.

Just yesterday I wanted to check a 1918 birth and it seems like I'll be able to do it soon.

Semantics question: at which month does "early" end? I suspect April.

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#636 12-01-2019 1:26pm

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Immature it may be, I know, but my only response is to roll my eyes and mutter 'whatever...'

I'd rather they said nothing and announced when it was done. :rolleyes:

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#637 12-01-2019 4:11pm

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mod9maple wrote: »

I'd rather they said nothing and announced when it was done. :rolleyes:

Exactly.

If anything needed to be said it was an apology for the delay instead of presenting a retrograde step as a development.

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#638 15-01-2019 6:46pm

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Hi, I'm trying to locate the civil marriage record of Conway and Lyston (Liston) who were married in Kilteely/Dromkeen, Co. Limerick on 11 April, 1869 according to parish register? I'm looking for fathers' names. Thanks

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#639 15-01-2019 7:31pm

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That year's marriages aren't online yet. You can get it from the GRO.

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#640 16-01-2019 1:23am
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Hermy wrote: »

Exactly.

If anything needed to be said it was an apology for the delay instead of presenting a retrograde step as a development.

Welcome to the world of ‘spin’.
1. Minister announces a ‘great news’ project A, but fails to give deadline date or quantify the resources dedicated to it.

2. Civil servants get stuck with the next flavour of the month project B, are told to run with it and they forget about/have insufficient resources for project A. (Got to keep the boss happy.)

3. Electorate asks about project A, is generally ignored or fed a line of waffle. The original end-date was hazy anyway!

4. Cognizant of possible fall-out, the Minister’s minders issue a press statement in which earlier promises/delays/mistakes/negatives are totally ignored and a ‘new’ (i.e. revised) statement is issued. It of course says much the same thing, watered down, but announced as new ‘good news’.

5. A journalist is asked by an editor to cover a topic s/he knows little or nothing about (and has no interest in) so s/he copies/cuts/pastes the ministerial line out of laziness/lack of interest/a hangover.

The Minister for Arts Heritage and the Gaeltacht has one role and one set of minders. The benefits of the GRO project accrue mainly to Tourism, which has a different minister & minders, about whom the former 'crew' cares not a fig. The fact that Tourism is an Independent makes it even less interesting and that it is Shane Ross is even worse.

Ministers will only apologise when backed against a wall by a baying media/electorate. It takes several deaths for that (maybe) to happen; certainly a series of missed deadlines is not sufficient!

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#641 16-01-2019 9:17am

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Sad but true Pedro.

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#642 16-01-2019 11:41am

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pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Ministers will only apologise when backed against a wall by a baying media/electorate. It takes several deaths for that (maybe) to happen; certainly a series of missed deadlines is not sufficient!

But where would you find more deaths than in the GRO records?

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#643 19-02-2019 12:17am

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We are pleased to advise that in early 2019, an additional 2 years of records of births, marriages and deaths will be added to the www.irishgenealogy.ie website. The marriage Index data along with additional images will also be updated for the years 1864-1869 inclusive. The years covered by the release of the historic records of Births, Marriages and Deaths after this update will be:

Births: 1864 to 1918
Marriages: 1864* to 1943
Deaths: 1878* to 1968

At least it's something

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#644 19-02-2019 12:47am

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Already mentioned in a thread on the matter some weeks back.

One could reasonably argue that it's less than something as what they're promising is less than what was supposed to have been delivered two months previous to this announcement.

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#645 19-02-2019 12:49am

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Also there's no date! It's a non-announcement.

I'll merge the threads so everyone can have a collective heart attack.

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#646 20-02-2019 12:39pm

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pinkypinky wrote: »

Also there's no date! It's a non-announcement.

I'll merge the threads so everyone can have a collective heart attack.

My heart actually skipped a beat for a second!

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#647 01-04-2019 9:31am

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Happy April Fool's Day

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#648 01-04-2019 11:59am

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I might ban you for that!

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#649 05-04-2019 12:53pm

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Alright, I don't want to alarm people but I just found many 1869 marriages imaged online!

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#650 05-04-2019 1:05pm

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pinkypinky wrote: »

Alright, I don't want to alarm people but I just found many 1869 marriages imaged online!

Please elaborate on 'found' ?
An 1869 marriage in Kilkenny/Wexford is still imageless for me.

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#651 05-04-2019 2:20pm

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I was doing a random wide-ranging search and there was an 1869 image, so I did a wider search for any marriage anywhere in 1869 and there were lots of images, but not all.
I'd say they're testing.

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