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French author, 50, says he's incapable of loving a woman of 50

  • 08-01-2019 4:32pm
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    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    obviously most men prefer younger women but this guy got some serious reaction against him for stating his preference. what do you think?

    justified? or just older women threatened that they are sexually irrelevant?


    A popular French author and television presenter has caused outrage after claiming he was “incapable” of loving a woman aged over 50.

    Yann Moix, 50, told a glossy magazine: “Come on now, let’s not exaggerate! That’s not possible … too, too old.”

    In the interview with Marie-Claire magazine’s French edition, Moix, the author of several prize-winning novels, added that women in their 50s were “invisible” to him.

    “I prefer younger women’s bodies, that’s all. End of. The body of a 25-year-old woman is extraordinary. The body of a woman of 50 is not extraordinary at all,” he said.

    Moix has won several literary prizes including the prestigious Prix Goncourt for a first novel and the Prix François Mauriac from the Académie Française for his 1996 debut work Jubilations Vers le Ciel, has directed three films and is the host of a popular TV talkshow.

    His comments caused outrage on social media.

    The journalist and writer Colombe Schneck, aged 52, published a photo of a backside on her Instagram account. “Voila, the buttocks of a woman aged 52…what an imbecile you are, you don’t know what you’re missing, you and your tiny, paunchy brain.”

    Feminist author Mona Chollet said Moix was a “sad sire”, while Laura Hulley, from the political section of the British Embassy in Paris, tweeted: “Happy new year, sexists everywhere!”

    Former first lady Valerie Trierweiler tweeted here about Moix in the context of the fourth anniversary of the terrorist attack on satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

    French MP Olivia Gregoire, a spokeswoman for Macron’s La République en Marche (LREM) party, tweeted: “Very classy Yann Moix. Very very classy. But like stupidity and vulgarity have no age, it’s reassuring in his case as I doubt many women want (these qualities).”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    i think he was very articulate and honest.

    It's amazing how everyone is entitled to their opinion on not allowing other people have an opinion.

    Good for him I say. And I will get on with my life without being offended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    His president will keep the oul wans busy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,314 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    On one hand it's not wrong for someone to say that they are attracted to a particular type. On the other hand saying that women over 50 were invisible is a bit of a dick move. there's more to a woman than their age/appearance.

    I'd view it the same way if he'd said women with small breasts are invisible to him. He's very shallow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Meh, it's his personal taste, don't see why it's worthy of a debate. He prefers women in their 20's, fair enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Have to agree with him when he says:

    “I prefer younger women’s bodies, that’s all. End of. The body of a 25-year-old woman is extraordinary. The body of a woman of 50 is not extraordinary at all,”

    I'd rather be feeling some nice melons compared to some prunes.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gravelly wrote: »
    His president will keep the oul wans busy.

    it's rumoured that he likes the lads really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    glasso wrote: »
    it's rumoured that he likes the lads really.

    Heard that alright - if so, yer man will have a clear field altogether as the prez will keep the oul wans and the young lads out of the game.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    here's the wan who posted her arse btw. hard to tell if it's a decent one. judicious angle

    DwQUnqfX4AEr1FM.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar




    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users Posts: 498 ✭✭Muckka


    I myself prefer to be single, I think I'm Asexual.


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    Hands up who's heard of Yann Moix before today?

    Hands up who's heard of him now?

    I'd say Monsiour Moix is feeling very pleased with his day's work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Meh, it's his personal taste, don't see why it's worthy of a debate. He prefers women in their 20's, fair enough.

    Can't be saying things like that, we needed to get offended on behalf of these women, getting offended on behalf of others is vital in these challenging times.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,263 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    I don't think they will be beating his door down, whether he thinks he is capable of loving them or not.
    Can't find any info on any relationships he has ever had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Hands up who's heard of Yann Moix before today?

    Did he play outhalf for Biarritz back in '96?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Grayson wrote: »
    On one hand it's not wrong for someone to say that they are attracted to a particular type. On the other hand saying that women over 50 were invisible is a bit of a dick move. there's more to a woman than their age/appearance.

    I'd view it the same way if he'd said women with small breasts are invisible to him. He's very shallow.
    Yeah their cooking ability is also important.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    I'm amazed this is news. He's just expressing his own personal taste in women.


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I hope he's okay with being deemed unlovable too. Plenty of people in the age group he's attracted to wouldn't be remotely interested in a guy as old or older than their dad.

    He's entitled to his preferences, but how you state them (if you really must) can make you sound like a boor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I'm surprised the British embassy had an opinion on this, and that opinion was "sexism" even though there's no sexism.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    If a famous woman in her 50's said the same they'd be celebrated for expressing their sexual desires and anyone that criticized the comments would be told that they were just intimidated by strong women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Candie wrote: »
    I hope he's okay with being deemed unlovable too. Plenty of people in the age group he's attracted to wouldn't be remotely interested in a guy as old or older than their dad.

    He's entitled to his preferences, but how you state them (if you really must) can make you sound like a boor.

    I've a feeling that if his new found fame helps him get the leg over a couple of 20-somethings, he won't give a ****e if the rest of the world hates him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Can't be saying things like that, we needed to get offended on behalf of these women, getting offended on behalf of others is vital in these challenging times.

    I am one of those women, well near enough. I would bet my house he'd be repulsed by me and that's ok. I'm secure enough to know my worth isn't determined by whether or not some random person would shag me. We all have our own personal preferences don't we?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Candie wrote: »
    I hope he's okay with being deemed unlovable too. Plenty of people in the age group he's attracted to wouldn't be remotely interested in a guy as old or older than their dad.

    He's entitled to his preferences, but how you state them (if you really must) can make you sound like a boor.

    A (presumably)rich French author. Yea no 25 year old academic type will be interested in him. Come on now, be reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Candie wrote: »
    I hope he's okay with being deemed unlovable too. Plenty of people in the age group he's attracted to wouldn't be remotely interested in a guy as old or older than their dad.

    He's entitled to his preferences, but how you state them (if you really must) can make you sound like a boor.

    In some other quotes he acknowledges that he wouldn't consider himself to be a catch either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    French culture, movies and literature often promote the older man younger woman scenario.

    Wonder how much of that is a true reflection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    I'm surprised the British embassy had an opinion on this, and that opinion was "sexism" even though there's no sexism.

    Middle-aged male saying anything that's not utterly sycophantic about women = sexism.

    If he's white, they'll probably shoehorn racism in there too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,627 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    If a famous woman in her 50's said the same they'd be celebrated for expressing their sexual desires and anyone that criticized the comments would be told that they were just intimidated by strong women.

    You gotta love how you saw an opportunity for some wimmin bashing in even this subject.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    French culture, movies and literature often promote the older man younger woman scenario.

    Wonder how much of that is a true reflection.

    totally normal in some societies.

    very frowned upon in Ireland I would say is the common reaction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    He’s in fairly good nick for 50.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,004 ✭✭✭conorhal


    If a famous woman in her 50's said the same they'd be celebrated for expressing their sexual desires and anyone that criticized the comments would be told that they were just intimidated by strong women.


    Like Germaine Greer for example?
    https://www.theguardian.com/books/2003/oct/11/highereducation.news2


    "The first thing that strikes you about Germaine Greer's new book 'The Boy' is just how lovely it is; page after page of sheeny illustrations of fine, languid boys as seen by artists from Praxiteles to Annie Leibovitz. But this is much more than a great coffee table book. In it, Greer is asking us to celebrate the evanescent loveliness of boys, but to do so in a very serious way."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I am one of those women, well near enough. I would bet my house he'd be repulsed by me and that's ok. I'm secure enough to know my worth isn't determined by whether or not some random person would shag me. We all have our own personal preferences don't we?

    I'm married to a woman not too far off it too, and I'd imagine she wouldn't give two f**ks what some (probably mediocre) French author thinks of her. If only everyone was like that, we wouldn't have all the secondary offense we have today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    it's a lot to do with genetics. some people in their 50s look great while some in their 20s are wrote-off. but then the amazing looking 50 plusers look "amazing" because they look young.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,812 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Another snowflakes getting offended by snowflakes thread? Where would after hours be without them eh


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Gravelly wrote: »
    I've a feeling that if his new found fame helps him get the leg over a couple of 20-somethings, he won't give a ****e if the rest of the world hates him.

    It's not worth hating him over, he feels how he feels.

    I think his mistake was saying love instead of attraction, I wouldn't call any group impossible to love - but there are plenty of things I find unattractive and in common with him, people in their fifties don't do it for me either. Possibly because I'm 32 :pac:


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    If a famous woman in her 50's said the same they'd be celebrated for expressing their sexual desires and anyone that criticized the comments would be told that they were just intimidated by strong women.

    You've really got a chip on your shoulder about women, if you think that's what would happen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    eviltwin wrote: »
    Meh, it's his personal taste, don't see why it's worthy of a debate. He prefers women in their 20's, fair enough.

    Really, why did he run to a women’s magazine with his opinion then? To get a reaction or looking for attention more like.


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    it's a lot to do with genetics. some people in their 50s look great while some in their 20s are wrote-off. but then the amazing looking 50 plusers look "amazing" because they look young.

    Genetics is a cop out in a lot of cases. A lot of people in their 30's/40's/50's don't do enough exercise and eat too much crap food.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    Really, why did he run to a women’s magazine with his opinion then? To get a reaction or looking for attention more like.

    New book coming out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    Really, why did he run to a women’s magazine with his opinion then? To get a reaction or looking for attention more like.

    Did he run to the magazine, or did they run to him?

    Women's magazines seem to love telling women what to hate about themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,858 ✭✭✭Church on Tuesday


    glasso wrote: »
    obviously most men prefer younger women but this guy got some serious reaction against him for stating his preference. what do you think?

    justified? or just older women threatened that they are sexually irrelevant?


    A popular French author and television presenter has caused outrage after claiming he was “incapable” of loving a woman aged over 50.

    Yann Moix, 50, told a glossy magazine: “Come on now, let’s not exaggerate! That’s not possible … too, too old.”

    In the interview with Marie-Claire magazine’s French edition, Moix, the author of several prize-winning novels, added that women in their 50s were “invisible” to him.

    “I prefer younger women’s bodies, that’s all. End of. The body of a 25-year-old woman is extraordinary. The body of a woman of 50 is not extraordinary at all,” he said.

    Moix has won several literary prizes including the prestigious Prix Goncourt for a first novel and the Prix François Mauriac from the Académie Française for his 1996 debut work Jubilations Vers le Ciel, has directed three films and is the host of a popular TV talkshow.

    His comments caused outrage on social media.

    The journalist and writer Colombe Schneck, aged 52, published a photo of a backside on her Instagram account. “Voila, the buttocks of a woman aged 52…what an imbecile you are, you don’t know what you’re missing, you and your tiny, paunchy brain.”

    Feminist author Mona Chollet said Moix was a “sad sire”, while Laura Hulley, from the political section of the British Embassy in Paris, tweeted: “Happy new year, sexists everywhere!”

    Former first lady Valerie Trierweiler tweeted here about Moix in the context of the fourth anniversary of the terrorist attack on satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo.

    French MP Olivia Gregoire, a spokeswoman for Macron’s La République en Marche (LREM) party, tweeted: “Very classy Yann Moix. Very very classy. But like stupidity and vulgarity have no age, it’s reassuring in his case as I doubt many women want (these qualities).”

    Interesting.

    As regards women in their mid twenties having bodies you might describe as 'extraordinary', from my experience this really entirely depends. Many women in their 40s plus are incredibly beautiful.

    As for the 'woke' journalist. Wow. talk about letting the side down. This is why I can't abide 'woke' women like this; permanently outraged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭Dakota Dan


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Did he run to the magazine, or did they run to him?

    Women's magazines seem to love telling women what to hate about themselves.

    They probably put an ad in a national paper, moderately well known man in his 50’s wanted to give his opinion on women over 50. Somehow I doubt it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    You've really got a chip on your shoulder about women, if you think that's what would happen.

    ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Sunflower 27


    I'm 46 and his comments don't bother me. I look after myself, feel young, never had children (personal choice) and am often mistaken for much younger. I'd say my body is in great shape and certainly don't feel invisible.

    As a 25 yo would I be attracted to a 50-year-old man? Never.

    We clearly weren't meant to be 😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Dont see how it's sexist really. Majority of women arent conventionally attractive by that age, but neither are the men, so the annoying thing is he is no more attractive that the women hes putting down, he'll never get a 25 year old woman so its pretty irrelevant

    Anyway there are some women who look great in their 50's if they keep themselves really well, and equally there are many millions of obese 25 year olds in the world


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭Gravelly


    Dakota Dan wrote: »
    They probably put an ad in a national paper, moderately well known man in his 50’s wanted to give his opinion on women over 50. Somehow I doubt it.

    Or, they could have approached him for an interview. Magazines do that I believe. Sounds a little more plausible than him phoning them up and saying "hey, I want to insult oul wans, you are a women's magazine, how bout it?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭OldRio



    As a 25 yo would I be attracted to a 50-year-old man? Never.

    We clearly weren't meant to be ��

    And what about the Multi millionaire 50 year old French Author?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Nixonbot wrote: »
    ;)

    Mods endorsing posts which attack a user personally now.

    Have you read the charter?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gravelly wrote: »
    Or, they could have approached him for an interview. Magazines do that I believe. Sounds a little more plausible than him phoning them up and saying "hey, I want to insult oul wans, you are a women's magazine, how bout it?"

    yes - I'm sure that the interview in total also covered more than this subject alone. we don't know if the interviewer went after this subject either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭Sunflower 27


    OldRio wrote: »
    And what about the Multi millionaire 50 year old French Author?

    No. Not every woman is impressed by money. Sleeping with a 50yo at 25, no way.


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    wakka12 wrote: »
    Dont see how it's sexist really. Majority of women arent conventionally attractive by that age, but neither are the men, so the annoying thing is he is no more attractive that the women hes putting down, he'll never get a 25 year old woman so its pretty irrelevant


    That isn't remotely true, either in France or Ireland.

    Ever notice Donald Trump is married to someone who looks-wise seems to be out of his league? It's a mystery and yet, it's common, if only there was an explanation...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    No. Not ever woman is impressed by money. Sleeping with a 50yo at 25, no way.

    Not every woman and its not just women. There are sugar daddys a plenty on the gay scene as well.

    Also Bradd Pitt is 55.


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